I'd still love to see proof on who can't get vaccinated due to medical reasons. If it is due to allergies, there are two kinds of vaccines that don't share allergens. if it is due to weak immuno system, then it is fine because none of the vaccines have a live virus.
I dont know why you ignored the posters question "Efficacy of what?" and instead just posted a link including that info but keep referring to the 60%.
"Can't" was probably the wrong word to use. They could get vaccinated, but the concern is more that their body won't be able to generate a sufficient immune response to be considered protected, rather than them being infected by something in the vaccine.
I'm referring to this
This is data from a week ago:
www.theguardian.com
I don't know. I don't like the data from the UK so far
If I'm reading these right over 40% of the Delta deaths have been double vaccinated so far. Someone help me decipher these if I'm wrong.
34 unvaxxed and 26 double vaxxed
The bottom column includes anyone that has received one or two doses. It is important to understand that you're not fully protected as soon as the needle comes in contact with your skin.This is data from a week ago:
Notice the bottom column.
But besides this do I really need to explain why a statement like "anyone dying from covid now is ignorant" is fucking ignorant?
Long covid is still a thing that people seem to just be completely ignoring, surging cases even with a smaller surge in hospitalizations/deaths is still a terrible thing.
UK for example
376,000 people in UK have had long Covid symptoms for at least a year – ONS
Data shows marked increase in self-reported cases of symptoms lasting 12 months or more
No there isn't. There's a lot of FUD in the media because the Delta variant is the next big variant, but every single expert says the same thing: get vaccinated, and follow health and safety guidelines.
institute.global
So you and your google skills know more than these officials and experts?
So that's 26 double vaxxed deaths in 4 months? And I hate to say this as it used to be a right wing talking point but these are deaths with covid, not of covid. All of our double vaxxed people in the UK are generally old and people will still die despite being vaccinated.I don't know. I don't like the data from the UK so far
If I'm reading these right over 40% of the Delta deaths have been double vaccinated so far. Someone help me decipher these if I'm wrong.
34 unvaxxed and 26 double vaxxed
IMO nobody is having a relevant discussion about long covid right now. It's daft. When the list of symptoms includes anxiety, depression and sleeplessness it's too wide reaching. We're asking people if they've suffered depression or anxiety during a pandemic? No wonder the numbers are so high. But until there's a proven link that covid caused those issues and not the societal pressures of a global pandemic, it's daft to discuss numbers like thisLong covid is still a thing that people seem to just be completely ignoring, surging cases even with a smaller surge in hospitalizations/deaths is still a terrible thing.
UK for example
376,000 people in UK have had long Covid symptoms for at least a year – ONS
Data shows marked increase in self-reported cases of symptoms lasting 12 months or more
My point is that people will still die despite being vaccinated. Plus those deaths aren't always because of covid. When a number is as low as 26 in 4 months (less than 1 every 4 days) you can't use that as a model for what will happen elsewhere
It lieteraly says in the report that it's from the PHE daily data which is all deaths with a positive test in the 28 days prior? Another thing you've pulled out of your ass? This is getting daft now
There is a breakdown of symptoms.
I'm not trying to "play it off". Jesus. I'm saying that the conversation is muddied because I believe we're counting people that have symptoms that aren't caused by covid. I'm not denying it's existence. I'm just saying until we understand the causes and effects of long covid better, throwing round stats for the number/percentage of people infected doesn't mean muchThere is a breakdown of symptoms.
Here's some for symptoms >12 weeks
~400,000 Weakness/tiredness
~350,000 Shortness of breath
~250,000 Difficulty concentrating
~200,000 Memory loss or confusion
Trying to play it off as just people being anxious/depressed due to the pandemic is messed up.
And then you have this
COVID-19 may cause loss of brain tissue; Delta variant fuels steep infection rise in England
The following is a roundup of some of the latest scientific studies on the novel coronavirus and efforts to find treatments and vaccines for COVID-19, the illness caused by the virus. Even mild cases of COVID-19 may lead to loss of brain tissue, according to findings from a long-term study...news.yahoo.com
1 death every 4 days is "spiked drastically in senior citizens"
I'm not sure what you want people to say. Vaccination does not mean you are immune from anything. You still have every chance to catch the thing, and a much lower chance to die from it. No one promised us we are invincible. Stronger strains having a batter chance of killing double vaccinated people shouldn't be surprising either. In the grand scheme of things, we are far better off than we were six months ago.
