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The Completionist - OK To Support?
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At no point did I make a mockery of anyone. Somebody having an opinion that you disagree with doesn't mean they're mocking you. I think your inability to understand this (despite being invited to share your own personal view many times), as well as the fact you accuse others of being toxic (despite you having done little but be a dick since entering the thread) shows me there is no point continuing this discussion with you.
I'm as engaged with the politics of the people I choose to follow as anybody here, and have said many times that hate speech of any kind should never be tolerated. The difference being is I encourage people to make up their own minds rather than rely on Restera's opinion as if we are one "authority" on the matter.
When it comes to RE channels always check their video(s) on RE5 if they have any.
I found an RE retrospective that I thought was pretty good based on the first vid, then jumped to RE5 just to check. I didn't end up watching any more videos from that person.
Jarard is a good dude and is very respectful. He has been friends with some known assholes since high school but that's kinda it. He doesn't promote them on his show or twitter and even has given to a woman's charity when stuff went down with Jared.
You don´t get to decide who stays tho. If you wanna leave go for it buddy.
Now let´s stop derailing this.
Considering the record track of youtubers in general it's perfectly legitimate to be wary. The only pathetic behaviour here is the guy shitting on a fellow member for no other reason than to feel superior.
Why do you "hope" or care at all what other people's music-listening algorithms are? How is that any of your damn business?
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Is this a joke? Did he go to the wedding or are you trolling. Wait, nevermind, you're banned.
Wait, are you joking? Do you know if he went to this wedding or are you just rolling with random unsourced Era comments?
Well I did some research and found this:
JonTron - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
So there you go, JonTron produced The Completionist, do with that what you will.
FYI, to anyone that doesn't know, most of the people on ResetEra posted on GAF, which was a message board run by EviLore who admitted to committing sexual assault. A lot of people on the internet lump in this userbase with that history and consider us scum, too.
So are you trying to spread the baned users un-sourced claim? Because the second user you quoted is currently in a topic trying to tell people the peace sign is transphobic, Jon Tron being apart of or normal boots is as know as him being apart of game grump as both were well before he let his White Nationalist out and both have cut ties to him. So what is all this talk of him being on good terms with Jon Tron again from one banned user and another that looks like a troll account?
There he is at the fucking wedding
Jon Jafari is a beautiful human being
He's been engaged to a lovely english woman named Charlotte since July 22nd, 2018!
jontron-is-beautiful.tumblr.com
Truly amazing to me that something like this will lead to some ERA posters cancelling him now, but I guess that's the world we now live in.
There he is at the fucking wedding
Jon Jafari is a beautiful human being
He's been engaged to a lovely english woman named Charlotte since July 22nd, 2018!
It's not something I'm happy to see knowing that Jon Tron is a white supremacist I may cut PBG and Jirard from my subs. Its not okay.
You're surprised that people don't want to watch content from someone who is ok with a friend being a white supremacist?
Yes, I'm surprised that instead of paying attention to jirard's opinions, statements and outlook over the past decade, ERA will now instead use this one picture to denounce his content and everything about him.
Wait, what am I saying? I'm not surprised at all.
So you're going to judge me if I unsubscribe from a content creator that openly associates with a white supremacist? Is that what you're getting at?
Why do you sound so triggered, you're coming across as if you're personally offended, do you also associate with white supremacists?
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User Banned (Permanent): Dismissive trolling, long history of dismissive behavior including a prior severe ban for dismissing concerns of representation and sexism.
First time on ERA? Look at any post involving a popular content creator who says something even slightly controversial.
Lol hell, look at the poster who posted after you just now, that guy already seems ready to disown the completionist due to this picture.
So you're perfectly okay with associating with white supremacists?
Like it'd be one thing if the wedding was several years ago, but it was actually in October of last year. So yes, Jirard deciding to go to a white supremacist's wedding is very suspect.
Actions speak louder than words.
Remaining good enough friends with known-white supremacist Jonathan 'JonTron' Jafari to be at their wedding says an awful lot about someone.
It's not difficult to avoid going to a wedding. Being there was a choice.
I don't want to support that type of person. There are plenty of other content creators out there who aren't like that.
You are free to continue supporting them if that's not a problem for you, but it says a lot about you as well, if it's something you can disregard so easily.
It's not difficult to unsubscribe from a creator on YouTube; one of the easiest things in the world. But apparently that's too much for some people.
People in this thread really out here defending the dude who abused and cheated on his wife and exchanged nudes with his fans just because a couple of the fans he exchanged nudes with lied to him about being over 18. The fuck is wrong with you people?
That's a different guy, ProJared. Completionist is Jirard Khalil.
I'm aware. But there are several people in this thread defending ProJared.
I searched, and it looks like those were the victim of auto-correct.
Next time OP, and I say this in good manner/light, do a quick Google Search before starting a thread over this :P
Yes, Jirard is a good person, one of the best dudes I have the pleasure to be a fan of and stretched hands with him once! And yes, people can question his ties to people like JonTron (who -to whoever was asking on the thread- never apologized for his racist remarks) and ProJared, but at least for me, is none of my business, that is part of his private life, those are some of his oldest friends, and if he, as the kind being he is, is able to forget and forgive, more power to him, that doesn't affect in the slighest my enjoyment of his content. As long as he keeps that for him and doesn't pollute his content/mindset/world views, there's no issue.
Yes, Jirard is a good person, one of the best dudes I have the pleasure to be a fan of and stretched hands with him once! And yes, people can question his ties to people like JonTron (who -to whoever was asking on the thread- never apologized for his racist remarks) and ProJared, but at least for me, is none of my business, that is part of his private life, those are some of his oldest friends, and if he, as the kind being he is, is able to forget and forgive, more power to him, that doesn't affect in the slighest my enjoyment of his content. As long as he keeps that for him and doesn't pollute his content/mindset/world views, there's no issue.
It was a rhetorical device to make a point of discussion, don't get carried away.
If you openly associate with a white supremacists that has openly expressed his white supremacist views then that speaks a whole lot to his character. Using the old friends excuse is utter bullshit. But I guess white people are gonna white people.
Seems like an odd stance to me to assume everyone's a shit until proven otherwise. Just watch/support whoever you like and if they ever do or say something that's outside of your comfort zone or vehemently oppose, quit and signal boost if you find it bad enough. Sitting at youtube links and subscribe buttons wondering if they're secretly a shit will just make you go gray.
User banned (1 month): excusing bigotry
So we should cancel the guy just because he doesn't want to cut ties with his white supremacist friend? That seeing that Jirard has NEVER even remotely speaking in favor of that?
I don't think it's a "white people" thing to do to try to keep a friend, is human nature. And human nature is flawed. And yes, this are public figures, yada yada, but I just think every single person is owed his privacy in life. This whole thing of "we are gonna look into every tiny bit of your life until we find some proof that you are/were shit to cancel you, Fuck If I cared you changed not long ago and you are better person now" is why cancel culture is flawed.
Keeping that nazi piece of shit around as friend absolutely validates him in his views, absolutely! If you truly believe in anti-bigotry, the first place to incite change is amongst your family and friends.
So what? He still believes that buddying it up with a white supremacist is perfectly okay.
I am talking about white supremacy. Keeping a white supremacist friend around and not having the courage or motivation to cut ties with them since it doesn't affect you, is definitely a white people thing.
The idea that it's just perfectly normal to have a white supremacist friend that some people are trying to suggest in these last few posts is just bizarre.
Like, he didn't say some diet racist shit, he talked about people muddying up the gene pool. He like said stuff even someone like Steve King would have balked at publicly saying.
Yes, it should be expected of people to not want anything to do with people that think others are fucking subhuman. Jesus fucking christ.
Like, he didn't say some diet racist shit, he talked about people muddying up the gene pool. He like said stuff even someone like Steve King would have balked at publicly saying.
Yes, it should be expected of people to not want anything to do with people that think others are fucking subhuman. Jesus fucking christ.
I'm just gonna quitely remove myself from this discussion because ya'll making me think and want to cancel Jirard just for this and it's making me real sad. Like, every single good thing the dude has done in his life must be completely nuked out of orbit because of having Jontron as a friend. I need to sit and think for a bit.
The question you're posing is quite interesting - wondering if there is a site that gathers information like this that allows people to make decisions whether or not they would want to support a content creator. A metacritic for youtube channels.
You're the only one that mentioned canceling him in the last page or two. People are rightfully concerned that Jirard was at a white supremacist's wedding as recently as a few months ago, that's it.
How gracious he is, a white person forgiving and forgetting a white supremacist.
I would ask you to question why you're really so upset about this.
Is it because of the so called dangers of cancel culture... or because you like Jirard's content and don't want to feel guilty watching it?
Edit: Also you seem a little too passionate about being a fan of this guy. Like, maybe take a step back from the parasocial relationship thing for a minute.
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he's not white lol
Neither one is technically white, but JonTron passes well enough to be "one of the good ones". Especially in how he acts openly...
I'll never forget Gene Pool Jafari handwaving people pointing out that he's Persian(?) by saying his family came from good stock.
User banned (permanent): Downplaying abusive relationships that might have included underage women. Prior ban for defending sexualization of minors.
Not really the topic for this but he specifically gave proof that the underaged thing was bullshit and the whole cheating thing is his own business and is murky at best given evidence they were in an open relationship and the abuse part was never a thing. As for the exchanging nudes with his fans, sure that was real but he verified ages and it was between consenting adults. Who gives a fuck what consenting adults do?
If you don't want to watch his content, that's fine but ignoring evidence and calling people out is pretty petty.
Yeah I fucking know that, is this supposed to some sort of gotcha? This has already been mentioned in prior threads in a dumb as shit attempt to shut down the topic just like you're doing now. He is sufficiently light skinned to pass as white, he is very aware of this and he has very clearly internalised a white supremacist belief set. Is whiteness a new concept to you?
Bro, why would you keep a massive bigot around as a friend? Yeah that's the kind of flaw that's a dealbreaker. Especially when there hasn't been change or being a better person from Jontron? He hasn't apologised, hasn't done the work to redeem himself, and hasn't even donated to anti-racist or black charities. Your dismissal of cancel culture is just based on inaccuracies and giving white supremacists the benefit of the doubt without evidence.
Don't worry, this is a common occurrence in threads touching on jontron, they'll mention that he isn't white in an attempt to excuse his white supremacist beliefs.
Lmao, Avalanche Reviews? That guy's a moron.
He also hasn't said shit about the current situation, has a few eyebrow raise-worthy likes though.
He should've known damn well that a good portion of his audience is underaged. And tons of people lie about their age to access porn sites. He's a complete fucking shit for brains if he thought nobody underage would send him nudes. There's also a clear power imbalance between him and his fans. If any big celebrity had an account on a social media site literally dedicated to exchanging nudes with their fans, they would immediately (rightfully) get shit for it. His wife has also posted tons of stuff proving he was manipulative and continued to have sex with someone else after she called off their relationship being open. He's a piece of shit. He's not suddenly this poor victim just because two of the people he exchanged nudes with lied about their age.
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