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Average American Debt in 2024: Household Debt Statistics

The average American debt is over $104,000 per person in 2024, mostly in mortgages and student loans. Here's the average debt in America.

Student and car loans are the biggest other than mortgage, which is the highest (duh lol)

The average American has $51,900 worth of debt across mortgage loans, home equity lines of credit, auto loans, credit card debt, student loan debt, and other debts like personal loans.

Data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's Household Debt and Credit report breaks down the average amount of debt Americans have by type, and by borrowers' ages and location. The data was gathered through a random sample of about 5% of Americans with credit report information.

Here's a breakdown of the total amount, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's Household Debt and Credit report from the second quarter of 2020.

Debt type Average balance
Mortgage debt $35,660
Home equity lines of credit $1,370
Auto loan $4,760
Credit card debt $2,980
Student loan debt $5,610
Other debt (personal loans, payday loans, etc.) $1,520

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I guess this is helpful if you care about "how much total debt, on average?" but I could care less about the average mortgage balance value if it includes a bunch of people with no mortgages.
 
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That makes sense but also, why count people who don't own homes in mortgage debt?
Because the data is sampling all debt, so they're part of the aggregate. You will those who rent and student loans, and those who have paid off mortgages and have tons of car debt and endless permutations of that mix.

I linked the full report. Not sure if it has that break it down.
 

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Student loan debt is low because this is the *average American debt.*

Only about 35% of Americans have a four-year college degree. And of the ~20mil American students enrolled in college, only about 25% of them are enrolled at private colleges, which tend to be the most expensive, the other 75% are enrolled in public colleges which *can* be expensive, but are generally less expensive for in-state tuition. Of course I've also written at length about discount rates before, and how even private or out-of-state tuition with high sticker prices ($50,000+) tend to have a high discount rate over 50%, meaning that the average student enrolled is paying less than half of the sticker price (this is one way that colleges have higher income students/families subsidize college for lower income students/families... Not praising this as a system that makes logical sense, it's just a fact of how financing in higher ed works).

Of course, there are still Americans who have college debt without having graduated, or who are full pay out of state tuition at a public college, or what have you, but this is why the average student loan debt is relatively low... $5000. BUt, for a country where about 65% of the population does not have a college degree, $5000+ is much higher average debt than it should be. I mean, think about that. 320million Americans, and 65% of them don't have a college degree, but the average American has $5000 in student loan debt...? That's not surprisingly low, it's disappointingly high.

The data as its presented here seems kind of stupid. I agree with the mortgage debt complaint. If the average American mortgage debt is $35,000 then it gives an impression that "the average mortgage holder has only $35,000 left in debt!" or "wow, mortgages are far more affordable than I thought!" or something, which isn't useful.

Here's a ridiculous analogy for why the data presented this way is silly... remember when Sony unveiled the PS3 for $599 -- FIVE HUNDRED NINETY NINE dollars -- and people were shocked at the high sticker price in 2005? Well, if Sony followed that up by saying "We know that the PS3 has a premium price, but you might be surprised to learn that the average american will only spend about $0.03 on a PS3 in 2006." It's weird to spread out of an average price of something over hundreds of millions of people who do not buy that thing.

Why do you care about average mortgage balance value of only people who have mortgages?

Because it's a more accurate representation of mortgage balance. THis average as its presented factors in the 35% of Americans who rent and have never held mortgages into the "average mortgage balance," which ends up making the number seem smaller.

Let's say you're thinking about buying a house or planning for the future where you want to buy a house... If someone says to you "The average mortgage balance in the US is $220,000" versus "The average American has a mortgage balance of $35,000," those two things are worded very similarly, but with way different numbers. One is the average of all mortgages in the US, it gives you a solid estimate on what you could expect to save for a mortgage, the other is as if other people are taking on your mortgage balance for you.

It's like if you're worried about the cost of college and someone says, "Well, the average American only has $5,000 worth of college loan debt..." That would seem like college is not that expensive. $5000? Oh, ok, I can work with that for a college education. But that's because this $5000 number is factoring in the ~50%+ of Americans who didn't go to college into the average.


(* I'm just estimating average mortgage balance... don't really know what it is.. Avg american new home price is $320,000 nationally so just threw out $220,000 as a spitball somewhere, but the actual number doesn't really matter to my point that it's a lot higher than the other number. Also just estimating the 50% of Americans who didn't go to college, we know that about 35% of Americans have a four year degree, so I just took 65% and arbitrarily dropped 15% from that account for people who might have some college debt but never graduated, the actual numbers are definitely different but not pertinant to my overall point)
 
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My mortgage debt alone is twice their average overall debt. Be nice if they broke it down by age group and renters vs non renters. I assume alot of older people and people that rent throw that average way off.
 
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They really should have done the report in a different way. "This is the average mortgage debt for people who have a mortgage," "This is the average student loan debt for people with student loans" and so on. How they did it doesn't seem particularly useful.
 

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My mortgage debt alone is twice their average overall debt. Be nice if they broke it down by age group and renters vs non renters. I assume alot of older people and people that rent throw that average way off.
Lol Twice? As a very new home owner, mines 5 times it... And I have student loans still.
 

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Why do you care about average mortgage balance value of only people who have mortgages?
Because I'm looking at it relative to my own debt, and it says in the article that the low values for my age range are due to low home ownership rates. If the number were broken out to say 60%: no property, 40%: property owned, I could also work with that to make a judgement about how my age/debt relate to the broader population with respect to our assets. Without that, it just isn't informative to me.
 

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Data seems kind of useless. By averaging debt across everyone you don't get a good view of anything. 'Average mortgage debt of $50k' is meaningless since it's spread over owners and nonowners alike, and further w/ mortgage you don't get the whole picture unless you look at house value anyway. I got $200k left on my mortgage but at 3.75% i'm in no rush to pay it, and I'm refi'ing to 3% now. House is worth well over that amount.
 

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Yeah these numbers are low because a lot of people still don't go to college (or at least expensive colleges, maybe community college) and don't own homes. So that's a lot of people with "0" debt in those categories lowering the average
 

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Data seems kind of useless. By averaging debt across everyone you don't get a good view of anything. 'Average mortgage debt of $50k' is meaningless since it's spread over owners and nonowners alike, and further w/ mortgage you don't get the whole picture unless you look at house value anyway. I got $200k left on my mortgage but at 3.75% i'm in no rush to pay it, and I'm refi'ing to 3% now. House is worth well over that amount.
This is where I'm at, I wanted to know compared to my own mortgage debt how people were doing. Also, I am at 3.3 but wish i could refinance, haven't been in this house for long enough.
 

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It's worth noting that this calculation spreads the debt load over the whole population, including those that don't have that type of debt. Debt per person may be higher if only calculated based on the population with that type of debt.

When you get an average with that many people, including those who don't have a mortgage and don't have student debt, this isn't all that interesting. It give the impression that our debts aren't that bad. Compared to my debt, I'd love to only have $50k total across all of it.
 

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Because I'm looking at it relative to my own debt, and it says in the article that the low values for my age range are due to low home ownership rates. If the number were broken out to say 60%: no property, 40%: property owned, I could also work with that to make a judgement about how my age/debt relate to the broader population with respect to our assets. Without that, it just isn't informative to me.
I agree, the debt average of those only with debt (specifically mortgage) would be more useful information. It's likely including those who are renting, which in of itself is an entirely separate category with it's own types of problems due to the enormous amount of individuals who can't afford to own.
 
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I don't understand how the mortgage numbers are so low for younger folks unless they are counting people with no mortgage as 0. If so, seems kinda silly.
 

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I don't understand how the mortgage numbers are so low for younger folks unless they are counting people with no mortgage as 0. If so, seems kinda silly.
That's what they're doing and that's why this report is pretty much useless.
Actually, it's less than useless. It's making it look like people don't owe as near as much as they actually do. It's like putting five people in a room, one of them has $100,000 in student loan debt and the other four $0, and saying the average is $20,000. Technically true but doesn't come anywhere close to telling the real story.
 

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Comparing yourself to others to test how you're doing seems pointless in general. You don't need to know how others are doing to know how well you're doing.

What good does it do to know that your mortgage debt is $250k while the average is $200k? That tells you nothing.

You can analyze how you're doing by just looking at your own books. Income, savings, budget etc.

Knowing averages seems more useful as a snapshot of the health of the country as a whole when it comes to debt.
 

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I know mortgage debt is "debt", but I don't consider it to be a debt when assessing my finances. It's a bill to me. I'm going to pay to have a roof over my head. That's either a rent or a mortgage. Sure, I'll have the mortgage paid off in my 60s or whatever, but shelter is something that's a reoccurring cost no matter what for the next few decades. When I think about "debts", I think about student loans, credit cards, auto loans, etc.
 

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This could be very interesting data, but these numbers seem super raw. There needs to be more factors involved here.
 

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I know mortgage debt is "debt", but I don't consider it to be a debt when assessing my finances. It's a bill to me. I'm going to pay to have a roof over my head. That's either a rent or a mortgage. Sure, I'll have the mortgage paid off in my 60s or whatever, but shelter is something that's a reoccurring cost no matter what for the next few decades. When I think about "debts", I think about student loans, credit cards, auto loans, etc.

I look at it the same way. When someone asks me "do you have rent?", I tell them well what do you call a mortgage?