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The Atlantic senior editor David Frum: Trump headed to historic political defeat in 2020 that likely will take down Republican Senate with him
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I agree.
Democrats have a real problem not doing the obvious things that are both morally correct and also incredibly politically advantageous.
The first two(the third is not really possible without amendment) alone would shift the balance of power in the country over night. It would force Republicans to moderate or risk permanent senate minority status.
Having 3/4's of all states saying one is needed and then all of them agreeing with the proposed changes.
Well the Republican states would obviously block that so F, not happening. Still, DC statehood and Puerto Rico statehood need to happen already.
I'm not going to catastrophize about things that may or may not happen.
I'm going to assume that the USPS will be around in November and if they aren't, we'll have an entirely different issue on our hands beyond just voting.
Numbers in the House and the Senate that we will never have.
There are other ways to work around it though. The NVPIC for example is one idea gaining steam for example.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
GOP and Trump will wield the now rather corrupt Supreme Court as much as possible to delay, stop, corrupt, steal, lie, cheat whatever they can get away with come November.
Yeah. Even if it's a war zone out there by November, I will weather it to do my part. In terms of this prediction though, I hope zeal like mine will be enough but "Trump/The GOP will finally pay" is a refrain I'm getting sick of not just saying but hearing after 4 years of it not bearing out or at least not at the significant structural level it needs to. I know for certain it will be true if people do nothing though. As long as people do something, history might finally change and give reason, justice and empathy will finally win out.
this, why the fuck should we care what this warhawk #NeverTrump piece of shit hack has to say
Things are bad, and David Frum makes them worse
The ubiquitous commentator has been beating the war drum for nearly two decades.
theoutline.com
People are going to be so very angry at their governors and local governments in a couple months. And Trump is going to be there, yelling "LIBERATE EVERY SWING STATE", getting that populist energy up, demolishing "the establishment" once again.
It's pretty soon to say anything other than he apparently thinks he might lose. He's mentioned it on TV a few times.
The overall trend is that Trump has been ever so slightly ticking up, whatever happens. He might dip here or there for a couple days - but ultimately, his approval keeps inching up slowly.
What's that quote from Jesse Pinkman about how whatever you think's going to happen, the opposite will happen every time with Walter White?
My expectations are very low, but that will not prevent me from going out and voting. I'm not in any hurry to feel good about anything until we get the numbers in from this election.
My expectations are very low, but that will not prevent me from going out and voting. I'm not in any hurry to feel good about anything until we get the numbers in from this election.
God I fucking hope so.
Trump being elected broke the world... his re-election would finish it off.
Trump being elected broke the world... his re-election would finish it off.
Let's not forget they literally cheated on the last election with the help of a foreign entity. While many numbers would indicate this could happen, they won't go down without first resorting to any possible measure.
Yeah I'm really hoping NPVIC happens, anything to see the EC die even if it's done in a way like that. It's just ridiculous how millions 1 candidate can have millions of votes more and still lose.Numbers in the House and the Senate that we will never have.
There are other ways to work around it though. The NVPIC for example is one idea gaining steam for example.
National Popular Vote Interstate Compact - Wikipedia
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Even George H.W. Bush now denounces his son's "axis of evil" speech. And he's right.
The then-celebrated 2002 State of the Union actively harmed US foreign policy.
www.vox.com
I remember when people like David Frum were the enemy in America. Why are we platforming the Republicans of the 21st century who have been anchors to progress and perpetuated forever wars? Because their party got hijacked by people who went further in on such diseased thinking?
As for the theme of the topic, Trump and the GOP win in November by acts of interference. Attack the USPS during a pandemic, fucking with voting by mail efforts. Try and mandate people vote in person, putting the risks up for people to potentially consider as too risky. Do nothing about voting security and hope someone comes in and busts it open.
Even with Joe Biden being everything wrong about politicians encapsulated in one person, Trump is everything wrong about America in the last 40 years encapsulated in one person. 2018 showed us there's a massive anti-Trump movement in the country, and I think the issues with impeachment and the coronavirus response should be eye opening to those already not blind.
As for the theme of the topic, Trump and the GOP win in November by acts of interference. Attack the USPS during a pandemic, fucking with voting by mail efforts. Try and mandate people vote in person, putting the risks up for people to potentially consider as too risky. Do nothing about voting security and hope someone comes in and busts it open.
Even with Joe Biden being everything wrong about politicians encapsulated in one person, Trump is everything wrong about America in the last 40 years encapsulated in one person. 2018 showed us there's a massive anti-Trump movement in the country, and I think the issues with impeachment and the coronavirus response should be eye opening to those already not blind.
I wish that were true but in order for people like him to be elected the conditions of the world already have to be broken.
Yup. Nobody who wants this disaster out of office should be remotely complacent - even if EVERYTHING points toward a loss for the cretin.
Keep advocating, donating, and make sure that they get absolutely devastated in the House and Senate for every wretched thing they've done to this country for the past 3 years.
Good god, I remember this nuclear take but forgot it was Frum. This country is chock full of anti-Marxists who never read a word of Marx.
a billionaire president who revels in tax cuts for corporations, sounds marxist as hell.
Yup. Biden's polling numbers continue to rise, key senate rises continue to look better (ex. Arizona).
This thread is proof of concept toward the thread asking whether Trump and his administration will face justice.
No
In 20 years we will be starting threads about articles written by Mick Mulvaney or Stephen Miller after they fracture from the next Republican evolution and need a home that will launder their abhorrent history and rebrand them as grizzled political veteran insiders for a cool multi 6 figure income.
No
In 20 years we will be starting threads about articles written by Mick Mulvaney or Stephen Miller after they fracture from the next Republican evolution and need a home that will launder their abhorrent history and rebrand them as grizzled political veteran insiders for a cool multi 6 figure income.
HAHA, unbelivable, but completely predicatable.
Yeah if I had no moral compass I would love to be a national Republican presidential administration figure.
The grift is easier and no matter how fucked up you behave during your tenure(Frum literally drafting the propaganda to get us into war, Pat Buchanan in the Reagan administration defending South African apartheid as a model for the world, or using homophobia to deflect a failing AIDS response), there is a cushy landing spot on Fox News or the opportunity to launder your reputation through a centrist news network welcoming you with open arms, all while Democratic politicans massage your legacy over time so they can look "tempered and reasonable" by evoking agreement on something you did their current opponent fails to do.
famously restrained and responsible ronald reagan lmao
dems have done this same image softening of GWB too
He could be right. The majority of US citizens support social distancing measures and the president told America to drink bleach. The stay-at-home protestors do not represent what most of this country is feeling by a longshot. Still, it's too early to call and voters will assume they don't need to vote if they feel like it's already decided. There's also the larger-than-normal chance the election will continue as usual even during the pandemic and those stay-at-home protestors seem way more likely to go out and vote for Trump while everyone voting against him presumably values health and safety and will stay home to not get sick.
Stay vigilant, basically.
Stay vigilant, basically.
Looking in from the outside, four more years of this nonsense still feels inevitable. Despite everything.