People only thought this was when it was revealed. But now we've all played it we know its not because it's a good game. I haven't heard any Smash 4 port references for a long ass time.
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The amount of work that has gone into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate/Dairantou Smash Bros. Special is incredible.
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World of light unlocked the roster for every mode provided you defeat the 'main' fighter spirit if i remember correctly.
World of Light does unlock characters for VS roster.
I was always speaking from my own personal experience of the game. Wasn't even really criticizing - although I do think they should have an unlock all function - just stating how the choice made me drop the game. Was it difficult? No. Did I want to sit there mindlessly playing VS mode for 10 hours? Also no.
Interesting, I guess I never noticed it outside of the specific mode-based characters. I may have also unlocked everyone prior to touching WoL, but it's been a bit lol.
Usually the intent is that you unlock new characters naturally through versus with others, but as you mentioned you were only playing solo, yeah I wouldn't have done that either.
In terms of being game with raw amounts of Stuff, it's absurdly impressive.
If only they spent an ounce of that time doing something about the horrendous online.
If only they spent an ounce of that time doing something about the horrendous online.
I mean, your just fighting AI in World of Light too. Versus is a nice play to try out characters without the restrictions of World of Light. It's also really easy to just look up what Classic Mode routes give you what character, so you could have found the 3 specific ones pretty easily. 10 hours really isn't that much for how much Ultimate gives you up front content wise, so I don't know if it really needed a "Unlock all here button."
World of Light is slightly more engaging and creative than VS mode, that's why I'd rather play it. But again, it got boring when I didn't characters I like.
If you've bought the game for a party/competitive setup and you don't want to have sit there and personally play for 10 hours to unlock shit, yeah, it makes sense. If you're like me and have specific character you want to play, yeah you also just want to unlock them asap. I'm not inviting friends around to play a fighter with only 8 characters and they're not the kind of people who want to sit there unlocking them either. I don't really see the argument for holding back characters. In World of Light, sure. But an But there's a reason fighting games aren't doing that shit anymore, especially with such a huge roster. But like I'd actually just take $5 DLC to just let me play the damn characters I want from the start.
Nice try coming up with a bunch of words (and even throwing in the Japanese title to seem more cultured) in order to mask the real message: the umpteenth "Gamefreak sucks" thread.
This forum is exhausting and toxic.
This forum is exhausting and toxic.
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Bad faith? Seriously? Because of an opinion?
Please, if this thread was really all about "trashing Game Freak", then I wouldn't have edited my last paragraph out about that over an hour ago.
I'm sure people like the both of you & the rest who have flamed me have never made a mistake on this entire site. Acting holier than thou/high & mighty. Give me a break.
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Yes, opinions can be made in bad faith. That's how it works sometimes.
Hard work isn't equivalent to a good job
you can try your best at something and still fail
saying gamefreak could have done a better job is not saying they are lazy, as much as you would like it to be so
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Suspect thread timing...
Its a good game but at the same time the single player is lackluster and the online is even worse and that's the one thing I most wanted done right.
Its a good game but at the same time the single player is lackluster and the online is even worse and that's the one thing I most wanted done right.
Look, you say you're being honest, and I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. That being said, the sincerity is shortsighted. While Ultimate is one of the biggest achievements in all of gaming, it can't be seen as the bar for which others should aspire to. Sakurai has already gone on record saying that something like this may never happen again, which is why the team is going above and beyond and why they're going above and beyond the above and beyond with regards to brining characters and game worlds together. In other words, Smash Ultimate is an outlier among outliers.
Say what you will about your disappointment/dissatisfaction with Game Freak. I share some of that with you. But comparing its efforts to that of Ultimate's is myopic and ultimately shouldn't hold.
Say what you will about your disappointment/dissatisfaction with Game Freak. I share some of that with you. But comparing its efforts to that of Ultimate's is myopic and ultimately shouldn't hold.
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At least he's being honest about it & not keeping fans in the dark.
Plus a majority of people already know that's going to happen within the next Smash game, so they have no real reason to be angry at him over it.
I used it once more at the beginning of the first paragraph.
It's largely Smash 4 with much better lighting in terms of looks. They put in a ton of work, but the jump from Brawl to Wii U felt bigger thanks to HD, etc.I swear people who say "It's exactly like Smash 4" never actually played Smash 4, or else have no recollection of it.
As a consumer am I supposed to care that GF hasn't done HD development before? I don't care that they worked hard on it. That effort was all for nothing of the game is missing shit and is lacking in comparison to its older, cheaper titles.
You don't get a reward just because you worked hard if the work was sloppy.
was there a need to point out how it's called in Japanese?
if you wanna be "cool" about it just call it Sumabara. That's how they all call it anyways
And then how many times did you use English names for things in this thread?
It's a massive undertaking and I think it'll take until the next game for people to fully apprecite it, Ultimate won't be done again. Heck, every Smash game since Brawl has been built on the last - if they decide to start from scratch with the next entry or take the series in a different direction we'll probably end up with a substantially smaller roster and number of stages.
Edit: Oh I see this was originally Pokemon thread. What a strange comparison...
Edit: Oh I see this was originally Pokemon thread. What a strange comparison...
Man, Nintendo really lucked out with Sakurai. One of the few, if not the only developer with the passion, knowledge and talent necessary to helm such a franchise.
that "japanese title of a localised game used on a majority-english speaking forum" and "pokemon sw/sh swipe" double whammy
while I adore Ultimate and appreciate all the work Sakurai and Bandai Namco put into the game I'll still be excited to see what a new Smash bros could be like with half the roster but resources put in other areas.
I know I'll be disappointed if some of my favs/mains are cut but I also fully know that we might get substantial upgrades in other areas considering Sakurai and his team passion and willingness to go the extra mile (assuming it's the same team handling the next game).
I know I'll be disappointed if some of my favs/mains are cut but I also fully know that we might get substantial upgrades in other areas considering Sakurai and his team passion and willingness to go the extra mile (assuming it's the same team handling the next game).
Who cares, people will say anything. There are people who keep calling Link Between Worlds a Link to the Past remake.