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Tetsuya Nomura: " If we divide (FF7R) into large parts, it'll take longer to make, [...] Faster development if parts are smaller" (SPOILERS)
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Yea they can fuck right off if its going to be linear as fuck again. It should be a large open map after midgar anything else is a no buy for me.
Honestly going with open zones ala borderlands would work best for a world map giving a sense of freedom but not completely open
Yeah that could work. I was thinking something like FFXII at first, but without all the loading in-between the smaller zones.
But FF7 is a linear game for the most part?
Anyways on topic: Well yeah. The bigger a game the longer it takes to make. Sounds pretty straightforward?
I'll say 2022 is when the game comes out.
They've started working on part 2 since last year.
first undoubtedly sold shitloads so they definitely won't sit on it long. but i'm not necessarily saying it'll release soon-ish either
my guess is the next three or however many parts will be like what witcher 3 was to witcher 2 (FF7R 1 being the latter) so will take a bit longer to develop for per whenever FF7R 1 really began dev in earnest
my guess is the next three or however many parts will be like what witcher 3 was to witcher 2 (FF7R 1 being the latter) so will take a bit longer to develop for per whenever FF7R 1 really began dev in earnest
The fucking video had the "Tech Demo for PS3" written under the title. I remember because even the magazine I was reading said it was not a game announcement.
I mean.. if they started lasted year they should already have scoped out if its going to be a large or smaller chunk of OG 7 right?
Why did Nomura give such an vague answer lol. Could be misunderstanding things.
It's better to give vague answers when things could still change. They could decide on doing a large chunk then decide to cut it down later on.
I feel like above any other developer, Square-Enix was actually known most for their engine development woes. (Which is actually basically the opposite of content development, from a game development pipeline point of view.) The trials and tribulations of FFXV, KH3, and the Luminous Engine are legendary. Even FFXIV was basically an engine issue; once they remade the engine internally, the content seemed to flow pretty consistently.
I'm actually a bit worried part 2 is going to be a crossgen game in 2022 on account of how well it sold in Japan on PS4 and the fact that the PS5 will be lucky to sell 1m consoles by then (in Japan).
Do not want tight squeeze hidden loading shit everywhere again as that is on of the few negatives in the game.
Do not want tight squeeze hidden loading shit everywhere again as that is on of the few negatives in the game.
why are they driveby cynics?
this is hole quite raises a lot of concerns for people and confirms my concerns before the release of the game.
I am still very hesitant to jump onboard the game because we simply have zero idea of how many games it's going to be split up into, and this does nothing to quell those fears.
I want to jump in, but I also want to know the roadmap for this as to be honest if they want to split it up into many tiny parts I am not interested.
2022? That's quite optimistic.
KH3->KH3 DLC= One Year
We got 14 bosses where 13 have already assets and moves, 1-2 hours additional cutscenes, Qol Chances, A bit, Explorable Scala(Already has assets) +Photo mode and Ez/Pro mode. Anything else?
If this already takes one year, I don't know how long it takes.
You can all shit Tabata for but he has only like 3-4 years to build an open world with a half completed engine. There is also a larger monster variety larger than FFVII and environments look better. It has a lot a recycled content/dungeons/npc's but he still get shit done.
KH3->KH3 DLC= One Year
We got 14 bosses where 13 have already assets and moves, 1-2 hours additional cutscenes, Qol Chances, A bit, Explorable Scala(Already has assets) +Photo mode and Ez/Pro mode. Anything else?
If this already takes one year, I don't know how long it takes.
You can all shit Tabata for but he has only like 3-4 years to build an open world with a half completed engine. There is also a larger monster variety larger than FFVII and environments look better. It has a lot a recycled content/dungeons/npc's but he still get shit done.
It will only take longer to make if they bloat it with unnecessary padding.
if they're going to release it bit piece and charge full price while starting from level 1 each game... then yeah I'm done.
if they're going to release it bit piece and charge full price while starting from level 1 each game... then yeah I'm done.
If course not, unless people want a 20 hour JRPG limited to Junon or something.
Honestly, I wish Part 1 was 20 hour long , would have had way better pacing. Just put some post-game big endgame dungeon to fill out more play time.
What a lie from a story and development reality of Square of all people
FF7R was a full video game that I spend almost 40 hours playing (and I could spend many more, if I wanted to beat hard mode and the optional battle content), so it follows that the next parts would also be of that caliber, so posting "they'll charge $60 for each part, so greedy" is pure cynicism without much actual thought behind it, hence "drive-by"...
You can play FF7R and enjoy it for what it is right now without future parts (even though it's largely made for fans of FF7, so there are things that will confuse newcomers).
So if you want to jump in now, I'd suggest starting with the original FF7, but otherwise you can also just wait, eventually you'll know how the roadmap shakes out.
No just 12 -18 hour episodes each year. Like either have Kalm Chocobo farm, perhaps expand on that half of the continent to make it a little busier, perhaps put in some bandit camps in etc or keep it to the same at areas and have it end with you washing up on Costa Del Sol with a to be continued.
Either way just so 12 hours for next year, then focus on another 12 hours for 2022 etc, little and often is how I'd like it.
Both of these statements can coexist. What Kitase has said can be intepreted as they're not going to cut loads of stuff or deviate down a completely different story path. It's still going to be about Meteor, Jenova, Sephiroth, preventing the destruction of the planet. You're still going to go to all the places you loved, and the major events you love like the date or Bugenhagen's observatory and things like that will all happen. But at the same time, pieces have been moved around the board and the context could be really different. Characters might be gone where they were present before, or present where they were gone. Relationships will be different. So it will be a very different and remade story. And this is what Nomura is getting at. Certainly one or two of the changes they make in FF7R will have a huge butterfly effect on the rest of the story. We know that.
Rebuild of Eva is a good comparison point - when you think about how the same events happen, but happen in often really different ways.
i'm surprised the FF7 purists are still pissed about remake's ending...i mean, even though
the last chapter is some anime kingdom hearts stuff about destiny and whatnot and there's some deviation in how things can play out, our party still ends up pretty much the same where OG FF7's at. The same set of characters are now fixate on pursuing Sephiroth as OG, Rufus took over Shinra as president as per OG, Hojo's still mad about wanting to see the fallout of his union theory as per OG, and sephiroth's 'alive' and most probably using his clones to do sephiroth stuff (probably black materia)...the only difference is the Biggs is alive, sector 7's being rebuild by the people. That 'Zack thing' is just an alternatve timeline anyway, probably gonna play out like the Laguna's section in FF8. Aerith's still gonna die i think just not in the exact same way but die she will i guarantee.
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This kind of conflicts with what they said before about not to expect significantly faster releases tho, doesn't it?
I hope future releases are faster. Also hope they can be a bit shorter, or at least paced better for their length. I also still expect significant story departures outside of the moment to moment journey stuff like Junon etc. This is a completely different take on Sephiroth, you can't have an ending like Part 1 and then just go completely back on track for sequels. I expect about 60% same, 40% different. Even that 60% will probably be cut up and re-arranged
I hope future releases are faster. Also hope they can be a bit shorter, or at least paced better for their length. I also still expect significant story departures outside of the moment to moment journey stuff like Junon etc. This is a completely different take on Sephiroth, you can't have an ending like Part 1 and then just go completely back on track for sequels. I expect about 60% same, 40% different. Even that 60% will probably be cut up and re-arranged
How would this work transitioning to the PS5? How does it work for players switching consoles? How does this work for how the game inherently is built and structured in relation to memory usage? How many more years are they to be expected to continue supporting a late-gen PS4 game?
Sorry but this isn't happening. They won't release a 12 hour long game in yearly periods and charge 60 dollars for it. Expect the length to be the same as part 1 and release every 3-5 years.
You must have missed my last statement on having short cheaper episodic DLC rather than 40+ hour games...
Sony stated that a lot of PS4 games will get just patches to become PS5 games rather than forcing you to buy an entirely new game. If true your PS4 game gets a graphics upgrade and the PS5 DLC would transition to that game. Save data too.
what a reductive take and shows a complete lack of understanding of game development and project management.
Looks like we're gonna have all the big scenes that were in the original according to another translator:
I hate this "purist" shit everyone keeps throwing around. I love the game, and I'm cautiously optimistic for the future. I don't mind them changing things or doing new stuff, not at all.
It's just that the ending teases a lot of stupid shit that rarely works, and even if I loved 90% of the game I really don't have the trust in Square to do time travel or alternative realities in a way that feel justified in the end. If they're gonna continue to be as faithful to the original as they were in the first part all the whisper/Zack/Sephiroth stuff just make even less sense.
I always have doubts when someone decides to introduce time travel to a story story, doesn't matter what series it is. Avengers endgame, Kingdom Hearts, Shield etc. It's always very easy to mess it up.
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I still don't think they will release ANY story driven DLC that advances the plot forward. It'll end up being 5-6 parts instead of 3 is what I'm taking from the comments.
it's gonna be done on ps5 entirely.
as I said in the spoiler thread, this is what excites me the most.
as I said in the spoiler thread, this is what excites me the most.