Likeable characters?
Lighthearted humor?
Laudable charm?
Lustrous music?
Lindblum???
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Tetra Master for Final Fantasy 9 was more of a shit show than I originally thought!
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Likeable characters?
Lighthearted humor?
Laudable charm?
Lustrous music?
Lindblum???
It all makes some sense, if you're expecting the game to have a small hidden degree of randomization and obscure rules.
Also, i don't think it's so complicated... you have two defense values, two special card types, a strength range for rng maths, and positioning rules. I mean perhaps it's too much for a mini-game, but i don't think it's that weird. Especially not in a PS1 game, when games were weird and experimental all around.
Also, i don't think it's so complicated... you have two defense values, two special card types, a strength range for rng maths, and positioning rules. I mean perhaps it's too much for a mini-game, but i don't think it's that weird. Especially not in a PS1 game, when games were weird and experimental all around.
Yeah, I like TT but without those annoying rules I never lost once I got a few good cards (which you will also get outside of the card game, starting with Ifrit).
But this is probably why the rules exist. With Same/Plus you can still lose no matter your deck but then it feels like AI is cheating (perhaps they don't but they mostly do seem to have a card that combo'd me). But once I beat Edea 9-1 with a well placed final card it felt good.
Xenogears was literally just speed, the regular ass card game. Way better than this shit. (Though, the way you controlled it made it way harder than real speed).
Sphere Break is boring but it's also really easy. It's just simple maths.
The first half of your sentence is correct.
Never could get into Tetra Master, but I loved Triple Triad.
I'm afraid so. But take comfort in the fact that you are also by default the one and only Master of Tetra. Congratulations.
I loved Blitzball in FFX, had best team and everything maxed.
People think I am insane for that.
I think the problem here is more the PS1 having very limited screen space to impart the important info, hence it all having to be condensed into a four-character string. If it was implemented today you'd get a lot more text on the card:
"Cactuar. Attack Power: 2. Attack Type: Physical. Physical defense: 11. Magical defense: 0"
"Tonberry. Attack Power: 15. Attack Type: Assault. Physical defense: 0. Magical defense: 15"
I think one of the things that may be confusing you is the idea that you, as a player, particularly need to know the calculations that are going on internally; you don't, particularly, any more than you particularly need to know precisely how damage is computed in FF combat.
"Cactuar. Attack Power: 2. Attack Type: Physical. Physical defense: 11. Magical defense: 0"
"Tonberry. Attack Power: 15. Attack Type: Assault. Physical defense: 0. Magical defense: 15"
I think one of the things that may be confusing you is the idea that you, as a player, particularly need to know the calculations that are going on internally; you don't, particularly, any more than you particularly need to know precisely how damage is computed in FF combat.
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At the time I preferred this over Triple Triad and felt that I understood it better. Sounds like I should reevaluate.
However in FFVIII the regional rules are absolute bullshit, and trying to avoid them is so complex that I always just give up and drop Triple Triad after a certain point in the game.
However in FFVIII the regional rules are absolute bullshit, and trying to avoid them is so complex that I always just give up and drop Triple Triad after a certain point in the game.
i'll get an easy two or three hits in while he waits for the battle to load.Say it to his face, tough guy
I played a lot of tetra master and had a blast with it. Not saying it is good design, but you play it so much that you intuitively learn the rules, especially how your own cards tend to work. Seeing new cards (and sneak peeks at enemies) was the main drive and finding different players in the world is a fun side objective throughout. I like the arrows as it made you pick different cards for your deck strategically which meant you didn't just use the strongest ones, once you got a new card you wanted to use you had to think about your setup afterwards etc. I also enjoued that it wasnt just about winning the game, you also had to snipe the (usually) strong card you wanted to steal which forced you to counter its strenghts.
I think it was a very worthwhile distraction to flesh out the rest of the game.
I think it was a very worthwhile distraction to flesh out the rest of the game.
I probably spent as much time with Blitzball as I spent with the rest of FFX combined - and I love FFX.
Sports RPGs are so incredibly underrated. I hope some indie developer or other makes a fully fleshed out version of the minigame at some point.
Yeah Tetra Master isn't very good while Triple Triad is awesome. The only problem with Triple Triad is having to run around the world when awful rules like random or direct spread like wild fire. The reward for engaging in triple triad is also a lot better since the cards can be refined into some of the best stuff in the game.
Yes! I enjoyed it too despite never fully understanding it.
Although if iirc it was easy to miss some cards, like there was one I couldn't get because I failed to do 100 jumps on the skipping mini-game or some such nonsense.
The issue I have with Tetra Master is that its creators included too many additional elements to what should be a simple game. With Triple Triad, a player could pick up the rules pretty quickly and intuitively. Tetra Master has a lot more going on than a cursory playthrough tells you. Many players rarely pickup on how the four values on each card work. If Tetra Master had taken Triple Triad as a foundation but stretched it out to 4x4 and the grey tiles as minor additions, it would likely have been much more popular.
Yeah I loved Triple Triad and wished it became a staple of all mainline FF games like Moogles and Chocobos.
I tried with Tetra Master but never really got a feel for how to play it.
I tried with Tetra Master but never really got a feel for how to play it.
Once I figured out what the rules were by looking it up, it made much more sense to me and I love it. I'm addicted now. It's all I do in ffix now.
Good news for you: there's been a whole series of these.
That's Captain Tsubasa II: Super Striker. You'll have to use a fan translation for that one, but the previous game in the series did get released for NES as "Tecmo Cup Soccer Game" with heavy localization. There's even a mobile game now which I played for a few months, it was pretty good!
And if you need it to be indie, there's Touhou Soccer, which is pretty much the same but with Touhou characters.
The biggest problem with Tetra Master is there's literally NO REWARDS for playing it. In FF8 you could at least turn cards into items. In FF9 there are no item rewards whatsoever. Just more cards and a Key Item if you complete the card collection somehow.
Oh also, Cards can level up. (Why?)
Oh also, Cards can level up. (Why?)
I think I just played it a few times and basically always pointed the arrows at the blank parts of the opponents cards, which got me far enough and then I just stopped playing
Triple Triad is more fun, but FFXIV has made me utterly despise the "Plus" rule. I'm terrible at math so it just compounds I have no idea what I'm doing. That and the drop rates are terrible, I spent like 2 hours in the Chocobo Forest one time.
Triple Triad is more fun, but FFXIV has made me utterly despise the "Plus" rule. I'm terrible at math so it just compounds I have no idea what I'm doing. That and the drop rates are terrible, I spent like 2 hours in the Chocobo Forest one time.
I liked Tetra Master more.
I'm starting to think it's because I thought I understood it better than I actually did.
I'm starting to think it's because I thought I understood it better than I actually did.
I vehemently disagree with the sentiment in this thread
I think Tetra Master is the best of the minigames created for the series
Super fun and more complex and rewarding
I think Tetra Master is the best of the minigames created for the series
Super fun and more complex and rewarding
If you think it's bad in game, I owned the physical version of this and trying to play it is fucking nuts. You need a calculator, about a thousand sheets of A4 and a PHD to calculate what every move means.
This is exactly where I fell off of the game back in the day. I was told I just had to do two matches then the story would continue on. I did the two, not knowing what the hell I was doing, and lost because my cards were shit and I barely knew how to play. I learned that I should've been picking up cards from everywhere through the game, realized I gravely fucked up, and put the game down.
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As confused as I was last night, I woke up this morning ready to play the hell out of it. It's going to make this FF9 play through seem like a new game.
The game makes is very clear that you can spread rules and even gives you the option to abolish rules as well. It's like playing Texas Hold 'em Poker and winning at it, then somebody in Trabia says "hey, let's play poker but 3's and 7s are wild, you want to get the worst hand possible, and midway through the hand we'll swap our hold cards". Is it "manipulation" to just say "nah" to that ridiculous notion?
If you're playing against people who are awful and you always win, and then blame the game for not being hard enough because you want to keep the rules as simple as possible...
It's like setting a game on easy mode then complaining about the lack of challenge. It's fine to play however you like, but it's silly to blame the game for not being challenging in that case.
I know that I shouldn't but I always play a lot of Tetra Master on replays and I always like it. Just knowing the positioning is going to carry you to victory more often than not, I found it pretty rare to ever need to know the values on the cards worth.
I'm not saying it's hard, necessarily, but I was expecting something so much more exciting when I heard the hottest new pastime in Spira was a game called Sphere Break.
Sure, but god it's so dry.
I never had an issue with Tetra Master.
At the very least it doesn't have those stupid rules from triple triad that can spread randomly like a disease across the world.
At the very least it doesn't have those stupid rules from triple triad that can spread randomly like a disease across the world.