You could have just read the same page you're posting on to know that his Twitter shows he hasn't changed a bit instead of doing this low-effort "people can change!!" post.
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With all the videos and gifs in the OP you'd think at least one of them would have it.
Has the premise of the game changed? If not, he's still a piece of shit.
I checked his twitter and didn't find anything, so please show me before you bring your cancel culture here
Read Spring-Loaded's post, he hasn't changed. And at this point you shouldn't ever take apologies from public figures like him on their own at face value, usually they're just PR moves. You should only take apologies like that seriously when the people making them actually show they've changed as well.
He gave an insincere apology, and said afterwards "the fictional setting of the game does challenge techno-social progress as a whole". He has liked a ton of regressive bullshit on Twitter afterwards as well. His Twitter feed now has plenty of rants about "cancel culture", and he blamed the victims of Alec Holowka abuse for his suicide days after he had attacked Holowka himself, calling him a "weirdo... posturing on Twitter".
If you read the thread you were posting in, you might see a post that shows just how he's supposedly "changed".
In that it looks like he hasn't.
Pathetic to see people trying to defend someone with shitty GG views just because they like what they saw of a game years ago.
There's plenty of well made games from people who aren't openly misogynistic trash.
There's plenty of well made games from people who aren't openly misogynistic trash.
Checking all the boxes here rhetoric wise are we
I'd ask somebody else to show you screenshots of the usual far-right and gamergator personalities he interacts with on Twitter through likes, retweets etc. which shouldn't be hard to find (it wasn't the last time I looked a few months ago) because I can't look through somebodies likes when I'm blocked.
I'm blocked by him btw for daring to say that Gamergate was a movement about harrassment.
first of all, there's a bit of a difference between saying a few 'problematic' things and being part of a bigoted harassment campaign whilst also claiming the game you're working on envisions a dystopian future where 'feminism won'. secondly, people in this very thread have pointed out that his Twitter is still retweeting and liking some pretty awful stuff. you're right, people can change, but Tim Soret demonstrably hasn't.
This is reasonable response thanks, i still can't find it so if someone would like to show me the tweets that prove that he hasn't changed i would gladly see them instead of giving snarky comments
Oh it's this piece of shit. Thought this game wasn't going anywhere due to lack of funding. After this guy's history I have no interest in this game at all.
I mean, just look at his tweets blaming Alex Holowka's suicide on his victims for speaking out. "Waiting for legal corroboration" jesus christ.
Bloody hell. What an idiot. Basically the same take as Lauren Chen et all. Just blame some vague nebulous concept to dogwhistle to your GG audience.
What is harassment is sending your followers to hound a journalist who once said an unkind thing about you.
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It is, but not only. Did you know that an expression word can have several meanings?
The fact that this person did something wrong in the past does not allow to insult him online.
" Bullying or harassment can be identified by repeated behavior and an intent to harm.[3] Victims may experience lower self-esteem, increased suicidal ideation, and a variety of negative emotional responses, including being scared, frustrated, angry, and depressed.[4] "
=> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying
Kudos for being level-headed and giving other posters a chance to explain. That doesn't happen too often these days.
Calling out a bigot for being a bigot is not harassment or bullying.
I don't even know why there are still threads made about this game. You can't separate the art from the artist, as art is literally the output of an artist. This game is the output of an alt-right posterchild who probably fits right in at the old site. Anyone defending him at this point are doing so in bad faith.
I swear I had read somewhere that it had, but I still don't think I could get behind anything this dickbag has created.
It's so funny the people shrieking "separate art from the artist!!!" Are always people who's fanatic devotion to the art in question seems to be entirely dependant on the artist being a douche lord.
Just to emphasize again:
The game's premise as he described it (and if it's a misreading of his intention, then he probably should have cleared that up AGES ago) is:
"What if women were privileged instead of men! Just think of it! How crazy would that be? How would you survive in such a world even? How dangerous would it be to give women the same rights men have now! Wow, makes you appreciate so much more that we live in a world where men are the privileged ones, huh? So weird no one else makes dystopian horror visions about this! It's almost as if that would make you look like a mysogynist prick that implies that that same discrimination system we have now would be worse by definition if "feminists won"."
Also ignoring the fact that feminism as a broad term includes egalitarian views by saying "feminism not egalitarianism" as if those were opposed to each other.
I now know that I should not play this game, because of the lightning effect, unless the dev shows some concerns for photosensitive people.
Celeste menu was spot on thanks to its photosensitive setting. Without it, I would have puked after watching the flashing selected line in the menu for a minute.
Celeste menu was spot on thanks to its photosensitive setting. Without it, I would have puked after watching the flashing selected line in the menu for a minute.
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I remember how ERA was so hyped about this game and it's awesome quality pixel art. Then the guy behind the game was exposed..Welp
Personally I don't care who's making the game. If the final product looks as good and has a decent gameplay, I'll just play it.
His description almost reads like satire or failed attempt at humor.
Haha, just to make sure, that's not a quote but me trying to over-dramatize his premise. Not trying to misrepresent, but to show you why people are annoyed by it.
Here's what he actually said again, as posted before in this thread:
As you can see his story about how "feminisim won" is "to show the danger of extreme progressivism", calling it a take on the "cyberpunk oppression".
So that's why people assume he's going to paint a dystopian picture of it, from his own words.
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I'm not reading through this whole thread, it's far too toxic for my liking, but I see that some confusion still persists. Tim Soret did in fact apologize for those tweets he'd made years ago, he did explain that he's grown since, and The Last Night no longer represents those views. It's been reported in many places, and it's really easy to google up, but here are some examples.
Haha, just to make sure, that's not a quote but me trying to over-dramatize his premise. Not trying to misrepresent, but to show you why people are annoyed by it.
Here's what he actually said again, as posted before in this thread:
As you can see his story about how "feminisim won" is "to show the danger of extreme progressivism", calling it a take on the "cyberpunk oppression".
So that's why people assume he's going to paint a dystopian picture of it, from his own words.
What is the difference between egalitarianism and feminism? I did a quick read on some google results but still didnt quite understand.
