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Terry Gilliam really hates Black Panther
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I'm sure if there was a movie about an Indian superhero defending a secret Indian Utopia, we'd hear the same thing.
How DARE those black kids enjoy a superhero movie!
Either way. Why do so many of these guys just seem to hate superhero movies? Like they're just for fun. Let people enjoy themselves
Either way. Why do so many of these guys just seem to hate superhero movies? Like they're just for fun. Let people enjoy themselves
Stay losing, Terry.
Ryan Coogler Wasn't Ready To Direct Black Panther Until He Traveled To Africa
Maybe try making Don Quixote again, that's a good trick.
Ryan Coogler Wasn't Ready To Direct Black Panther Until He Traveled To Africa
Maybe try making Don Quixote again, that's a good trick.
There's a way to make this argument (representation aside the movie has sus politics) but this ain't it.
Nah, he probably had no problems with Africa being giant swathes of Savannah because *hunting.
This post confuses me, are you being sincere or is this some backhanded way of implying Indians are somehow a protected minority? Or does this Terry fella just have an Indian obsession. I need context
he ain't trying to hear all that cause he knows what's best for us
He is anti-Brexit, anti-Trump, believes in climate change. He would be a terrible Daily Mail reader.
What a miserable old bastard. The film makers were incredibly transparent about creating a fictionalised, afro-futuristic aesthetic to hang their summer blockbuster on. What is there to be angry about! Who else is playing in this space?
I can't imagine the sci-fi take on Norse mythology in Thor made his "blood boil". I wonder why?
I can't imagine the sci-fi take on Norse mythology in Thor made his "blood boil". I wonder why?
I thought Black Panther was awesome and Terry Gilliam is being ridiculous. There's no question that Black Panther has driven interest and awareness in real African cultures; it's a great jumping-off point for kids or anyone, really.
If I were to criticize Black Panther it would be the way the basic concept of Wakanda/Black Panther is deeply rooted in some weird colonialist fantasies and tropes about Africa, specifically King Solomon's Mines. The original comic was written by some white guys in the 60s (70s?), after all, and one of the biggest hit movies when those guys were kids was King Solomon's mines. But again, the movie has undoubtedly driven more people to learn more about African cultures than any other cultural product of the last 25 years.
If I were to criticize Black Panther it would be the way the basic concept of Wakanda/Black Panther is deeply rooted in some weird colonialist fantasies and tropes about Africa, specifically King Solomon's Mines. The original comic was written by some white guys in the 60s (70s?), after all, and one of the biggest hit movies when those guys were kids was King Solomon's mines. But again, the movie has undoubtedly driven more people to learn more about African cultures than any other cultural product of the last 25 years.
He might have been when 40% of the continent was under British control.
So the topic at hand is just his blindspot? Makes things even more baffling.
Black Panther still living rent free in so many heads almost 2 years after it came out.
Especially in the heads of CBM and MCU fans who still hate the fact it's considered one of, if not the best films, the franchise has to offer.
Especially in the heads of CBM and MCU fans who still hate the fact it's considered one of, if not the best films, the franchise has to offer.
I...think he's mad at some sort of perceived romanticized version of Africa which he thinks is meant to keep black kids ignorant over what he thinks is a troubled area
Maybe. I dunno.
We would know if interviewers actually asked what he meant. Is he complaining about a modern strong African nation existing? Is he complaining about a strong modern African nation using rhinos as transport and spears as weapons? The only thing the article learn us is he doesn't like Marvel. But he is an old movie director, so of course he doesn't like Marvel.
Why single out the one Marvel movie with a black lead? Would he say the same thing about Captain America, Ironman, Spiderman etc. and white kids? It's a movie dude, it's not inspiring anyone to want to become a super hero.
As an Eritrean, I wasn't a fan of it either. I think the strongest parts of the movie was Killmonger's perspective of how Wakanda abandoned other Africans and valued secrecy and paranoia over the common good.
I get that lots of the material comes from the comics, but maybe two white guys from the 70s aren't the best source for representing a diverse set of African cultures.
Frankly, things like the spears shooting projectiles, dragonfly shape vehicles and armored rhinos just seemed like the movie didn't know how to represent Africa without some of the most cliche themes. It's like they knew the culturally relevant aspects of African cultures before colonialism and just said "let's just say none of this changes at all". But that's silly to assume things like "oh an African nation not influenced by colonialism would surely take their existing basic spears and decide they should make it shoot projectiles. Let them represent their culture in more practical ways.
same thing with the shitty government system. Why the hell is this shitty monarchy existing with a stupid tradition of combat? I don't like hearing "oh it's just done out of simple respect to the tradition, because they exercise that tradition twice.
I get that lots of the material comes from the comics, but maybe two white guys from the 70s aren't the best source for representing a diverse set of African cultures.
Frankly, things like the spears shooting projectiles, dragonfly shape vehicles and armored rhinos just seemed like the movie didn't know how to represent Africa without some of the most cliche themes. It's like they knew the culturally relevant aspects of African cultures before colonialism and just said "let's just say none of this changes at all". But that's silly to assume things like "oh an African nation not influenced by colonialism would surely take their existing basic spears and decide they should make it shoot projectiles. Let them represent their culture in more practical ways.
same thing with the shitty government system. Why the hell is this shitty monarchy existing with a stupid tradition of combat? I don't like hearing "oh it's just done out of simple respect to the tradition, because they exercise that tradition twice.
What a weird take...
Like I feel there's a point in there somewhere, but its packaged in such a weirdly problematic way. Like please explain why black kids looking up to this is "bullshit!" Because if you don't explain it, people are going to assume you think black kids striving for general excellence is what you're calling "bullshit."
Like I feel there's a point in there somewhere, but its packaged in such a weirdly problematic way. Like please explain why black kids looking up to this is "bullshit!" Because if you don't explain it, people are going to assume you think black kids striving for general excellence is what you're calling "bullshit."
This. Like dude, please explain yourself, cause it sounds really bad.
Just a reminder of what a fragile piece of privileged trash Gilliam is.
"I'm a black lesbian in transition" and "it makes me cry that six white, Oxbridge men can't make a comedy show" now because diversity
"I'm a black lesbian in transition" and "it makes me cry that six white, Oxbridge men can't make a comedy show" now because diversity
Wow what scintillating information.
Jesus christ.
I'm not sure what his complaint is exactly?
Is it that this fictional country is, indeed, not real?
Is it that this fictional country is, indeed, not real?
By the way, here is the actual source with more context and less spin.
It's most liberal white's blindspot cause I've seen mentality like this all the time in liberal white groups.
But even there, it is implied he did follow-up somewhat on the remarks, they just didn't put in the article.
Old white fart is a racist fuck and thinks he knows what's good for blacks more than actual black people?
SHOCKING...
SHOCKING...
I work with a nigerian guy that hates the movie for similar reasons.
