i hate genysis, but taylors directing was fine. the movie looked good and was (mostly) well shot. hell, the first 20-ish minutes were really good and entertaining. a good director cant save a shitty script.
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Terminator Dark Fate trailer & extended look
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Gabriel Luna has that friendly smile that the T-1000 had, to really trick you into a false sense of security, i like that detail. Otherwise, i dunno about this movie, how many more times are they gonna retread Terminator 2's plot? even 3 back in 2003 was self aware about it & had fun with it.
The highway chase sequence is looking pretty good to me. Action and choreography seems to be on point, and Junkie XL appears to be channeling a bit of Brad Fiedel's T-1000 music motif here. I'm still not a fan of the slow-mo; I mentioned before that slow-mo effects have their place, but it shouldn't be in a Terminator movie. Terminator's action should be fast, raw, and visceral.
And hearing the full melodic strains of the Main Theme at 3:11 on the IMAX trailer is glorious. Let's hope the theme isn't just used in the marketing and finds its way in the film proper.
And hearing the full melodic strains of the Main Theme at 3:11 on the IMAX trailer is glorious. Let's hope the theme isn't just used in the marketing and finds its way in the film proper.
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It's not a hot take. There is some truly impressive stunt work and practical effects in that movie, rewatched it a few months ago entirely out of morbid curiosity and visually it holds up surprisingly well. Some level of care was put into it. Just not in the stuff that really matters.
I still can't believe 3, soon to be 4 crap sequels later and T3 is the best of them. The one that had THIS fucking scene that actually made me lol in the theater.
True enough. Dark Fate looks like it has a half-dozen writers on it, including James Cameron, but also David Goyer....
Yeah, this continues to look mediocre. I had really hoped this would be the moment that would turn it around for the series. But, that is just clearly not happening. Maybe the 100% reboot in another 5 years will do it. 'Cause it honestly doesn't seem like it should be that fucking hard to make a good Terminator movie, despite hollywood seeming deadset on convincing us all otherwise.
The ending alone makes Terminator 3 decent imo, but it's bogged down by some dumb moments, talk to the hand being one of them as well.
1. I never saw this, thank you for sharing.
2. It's a great alternate ending, but maybe a bit too 'Outer Limits'-y in presentation and how corny it is. (But I love it)
3. Will any movie soundtrack ever beat Brad Fiedel's masterpiece? Damn, still so good and effective.
Here's a great interview with Brad Fiedel about the T2 score: https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies...nterview-composing-terminator-2s-iconic-score
And you have a Green Arrow avatar? I'm happy this is being made.
And you have a Green Arrow avatar? I'm happy this is being made.
Oh man, the CG is rough to say the least and the new Terminator just does nothing for me. I love the fact it can split into multiple, but it just looks... Not intimidating at all. Also really do not like the new (I guess hybrid) protector. I can't quite put my finger on what it is. But the more I see of her, the less she does for me.
Also, please tell me that the editing in that chase scene is just part of the trailer part of the video and not that it's the actual editing that'll be in the film, because that was some garbage editing.
They absolutely would've found a way to weasel their way into a third one never the less.
Also, please tell me that the editing in that chase scene is just part of the trailer part of the video and not that it's the actual editing that'll be in the film, because that was some garbage editing.
They absolutely would've found a way to weasel their way into a third one never the less.
I seriously can't agree, the director of Genysis was fine, good even. The problem of that film is entirely down to the script and the base of that. There's absolutely a good film in Genysis, it just needed a couple of rewrites (and different casting) to bring the (imo genuinely good) idea forward.
The majority of T2 was practical Stan Winston effects. CGI was used very sparingly
I'm looking forward to this, but I enjoyed every terminator other than Salvation. I'm just excited to see Arnold and Sarah back, catching up with them since the events of T2 and the new future they created.
New bad Terminator seems interesting too, I don't think the effects are anywhere near as bad as people are saying. Also it escaping that helicopter crash which is almost identical to teh one in T2 is awesome. Seems like it's self aware too.
New bad Terminator seems interesting too, I don't think the effects are anywhere near as bad as people are saying. Also it escaping that helicopter crash which is almost identical to teh one in T2 is awesome. Seems like it's self aware too.
I'm into the new terminator model and from what I can see of Gabriel, he's nailing that part. He'll probably be the highlight of the movie.
Everything else is a little more questionable, particularly the CGI, but Arnold is looking good.
My bar is honestly relatively low. I just want it to be better than T3-T5. As long as it does that, I'll be content enough.
My feelings toward the new footage are generally positive. I just wish this 2019 movie's effects didn't look worse than the 1991 movie it is a sequel to.
Some shots of interest to me:
Everything else is a little more questionable, particularly the CGI, but Arnold is looking good.
My bar is honestly relatively low. I just want it to be better than T3-T5. As long as it does that, I'll be content enough.
My feelings toward the new footage are generally positive. I just wish this 2019 movie's effects didn't look worse than the 1991 movie it is a sequel to.
Some shots of interest to me:
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That's my main problem with every Terminator villain after Robert Patrick. Arnie was of course perfect for the role in the first film and then Patrick was probably even better casting because he conveys a really creepy look in T2 as well as mimicking human emotions like friendliness. But all the other villains since then haven't been threatening or unsettling and have just been really unmemorable. This guy doesn't look to me like he'll break that trend.
is this a parody movie?bro WTF are these morphing effects
The T-Juan Thousand is a design failure.
The full scene looks quite rough, there is some good practical stuff but it's mixed in with such obvious CGI it looks pretty bad and man they could save so much time and money for other things instead of showing slow CGI heavy healing morphing scenes that add practically nothing of worth.
Yes, it says people don't remember what the CG in T2 looked like. It was amazing for it's time but it doesn't come close to standing up to today's standards.
I was in a blackout, saw the trailer and didn't expected Mexican terminator lol.
now I am curious
now I am curious
I'm gonna watch this for Sarah Connor but I would've been 100x more interested if they wrote around Furlong's burnout. Maybe Judgement Day never happens and he just wastes away until it happens randomly.
eh
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It's hard to believe how banal the visuals are. I mean, the movie looks like generic digital trash.
I think the fact that the CG at the time blended so well with the practical effects makes the film hold up extremely well compared to most modern action films. Everything is green screened to death now.Yes, it says people don't remember what the CG in T2 looked like. It was amazing for it's time but it doesn't come close to standing up to today's standards.
Because they used mostly practical effects for both T1/T2, only resorting to CGI when it couldn't be done with practical effects. I mean it was Stan Winston behind them (who did the effects for Aliens, Predator, and Jurassic Park).
This movie they seem to be doing almost all the effects with CGI, even ones that could easily be done with practical effects work, so it has a 'fake" look to it all.
The funny thing is that they added an insert during the Rev9's "transformation" to distract you from the crappy CG effects.
That looks like garbage. I mean, literal garbage, like waste and trash from a dumpster truck coming together. I really do not understand the idea behind the visual/concept artists that designed this.
Banal is an interesting and appropriate word to use to describe how this movie looks. It's like there's no identity or passion in it. It looks so bland, in stills or in motion.
Looks terrible. Just let this franchise die already.
Sarah Connor as a badass woman was at her best when she at leat behaved like a human. She was strong, but also scared and traumatized.
This is just Sarah Connor acting like a Terminator.
Sarah Connor as a badass woman was at her best when she at leat behaved like a human. She was strong, but also scared and traumatized.
This is just Sarah Connor acting like a Terminator.
Doesn't look spectacular but also not nearly as bad as ya'll are making it out to be.
At least it looks like it takes itself seriously unlike Genisys which felt more like a fucking parody.
At least it looks like it takes itself seriously unlike Genisys which felt more like a fucking parody.
Gensysis being a parody meant I could at least laugh at its stupidity.
This is taking itself so seriously I can't do anything but roll my eyes.
IMO trying WAY too hard to ride the coattails of T1 and T2 is a big problem that every sequel in the series has suffered. A nod or two is fine, but it feels like every Terminator sequel after T2 is just so desperate about it, you know? It keeps waving old shit in your face and going "see? Here's this thing from the movies you liked. That means you'll like me too, right?????"
This one seems no different. Bleh.
I agree. Every movie after T2 really gives renewed respect for Patrick's performance. His acting gave this cold, inhuman vibe to the T1000 that none of the sequel villains had.
Everyone who played a terminator after that might as well have been playing any cold-blooded killer or henchman, and the writing doesn't do it any favors. A Terminator would have no fucking interest in asking the good guys why they keep getting in his way. Seeing that line in the trailer was weird.
WTF this looks CGbro WTF are these morphing effects
The T-Juan Thousand is a design failure.
I'm into the new terminator model and from what I can see of Gabriel, he's nailing that part. He'll probably be the highlight of the movie.
Everything else is a little more questionable, particularly the CGI, but Arnold is looking good.
My bar is honestly relatively low. I just want it to be better than T3-T5. As long as it does that, I'll be content enough.
My feelings toward the new footage are generally positive. I just wish this 2019 movie's effects didn't look worse than the 1991 movie it is a sequel to.
Some shots of interest to me:
Stan Winston and his practical models are sorely missed.
And I mean, the little bit we see of the Future War in the new Mortal Kombat fatality looks infinitely better than a lot of what has come before.
Looks like a Terminator superhero movie. Not interested in Avengers etc or this.
The villain seems completely forgettable as does the whole crew minus Linda. Par for the post T2 course
The villain seems completely forgettable as does the whole crew minus Linda. Par for the post T2 course
It's interesting as a novelty, as an actual ending it suuuuucks though, it's very tonally out of wack from the entire rest of the film, it feels like it's from a different movie. Cameron made the right decision in axing it, the ambiguity of the theatrical ending is way better than this sappy fairytale esque ending.
All true. But at the very least, it would've stopped all the shit sequels from being made.
bro WTF are these morphing effects
The T-Juan Thousand is a design failure.
Holy fuck this is not even the SFX that are killing me it's the look of that Terminator.
He is so unimpressive. :/
Me neither but I do remember that the last three movies have not exactly been stellar.