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Terminator: Dark Fate || Review Thread
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If this ends up being as good as Alita Battle Angel then I'll be happy. Having James Cameron (somewhat) involved can elevate things even when the director/crew aren't quite top level. I haven't watched a single trailer for this movie so I'm excited to go in relatively blind.
Rocky Balboa was very good.
And Creed, while not entirely crafted around Rocky himself, is amazing.
For me, a terminator that doing flips and shit doesn't feel scary. It just gets into the goofy territory.
T800 and 1000 felt menacing.
T800 and 1000 felt menacing.
I remember the leak regarding the early screening. Based on that he's not in the movie at all, which apparently isn't true going by the latest info so we'll see.
There's no point trying to top T2, it's not going to happen. The Terminator arguably only had room for one direct sequel, and T2 pretty much did everything you could do within that remit. And as much as I love T2, there's the argument that even that film doesn't make sense after the closed loop plot of The Terminator.
There's also the issue that most standalone genre films face; that any given property probably only has room for one direct sequel. Any more sequels after that point, and the fictional universe of the property starts to stretch credulity. Why are the same people involved in once in a lifetime events 3, 4, 5 times? In Aliens, I can buy that Ripley is sought out and begrudgingly roped back into something because of her firsthand experiences in Alien. Same with Sarah Connor in T2. When you're getting to the point in both "franchises" where each respective character is brought back to be a badass heroine for the sake of it, I don't believe the fiction.
Which is why I believe the best course of action for this IP is...well, to leave it alone, actually. But if a new film must be made, it needs to be a fresh reboot with the basic concept of The Terminator, leaving Arnie, Sarah, John Connor - all of them - at the door.
There's also the issue that most standalone genre films face; that any given property probably only has room for one direct sequel. Any more sequels after that point, and the fictional universe of the property starts to stretch credulity. Why are the same people involved in once in a lifetime events 3, 4, 5 times? In Aliens, I can buy that Ripley is sought out and begrudgingly roped back into something because of her firsthand experiences in Alien. Same with Sarah Connor in T2. When you're getting to the point in both "franchises" where each respective character is brought back to be a badass heroine for the sake of it, I don't believe the fiction.
Which is why I believe the best course of action for this IP is...well, to leave it alone, actually. But if a new film must be made, it needs to be a fresh reboot with the basic concept of The Terminator, leaving Arnie, Sarah, John Connor - all of them - at the door.
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Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance is a prequel series that was made almost 40 years after the film, but it's incredibly faithful to the original movie. Simply amazing puppetry.
EDIT: Oh wait I think I've misunderstood the question
Phew I was worried because of the lack of hype (it comes out in like a week!) but these reviews make it sound like it's at the very least, better than the other sequels.
I hope this holds because I want at least one more legit Terminator film before it's all over.
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Will wait on more reviews as being better than T3 / Salvation / Genisys doesn't mean much considering the quality of them. The first Terminator film has still not been surpassed, T2 is good but feels less serious and just doesn't match the tone of the first.
Optimistic but worried
Hard to top the first 2. Re-watched Terminator 1 the other day. Damn it's good
Hard to top the first 2. Re-watched Terminator 1 the other day. Damn it's good
I assume Garland has more interesting things to work on than a Terminator sequel.
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Hmm interesting.
It still pissed me off in T2 they made the T800 odd. They shouldnt have made him be "emotional". There is a scene at the end of T2 where the T800 states he needs a vacation after fighting the T1000. Completely ruins the whole vive of the end for me.
It still pissed me off in T2 they made the T800 odd. They shouldnt have made him be "emotional". There is a scene at the end of T2 where the T800 states he needs a vacation after fighting the T1000. Completely ruins the whole vive of the end for me.
the skin is "organic human tissue"
i don't think it was implied that it ages like an actual human's in the old movies, but not the dumbest stretch ever i suppose
I think that vacation line in particular was ad libbed by Arnold, but it wouldn't have stayed if it didn't fit. It's really not much different from 'Hasta la vista, baby". If you watch for it, the T-800 in T2 has a very clear growth curve to psychological 'humanity'. Like, practically neon flashing markers set along a linear path.
Of course, in Genisys, Arnold's still trying to learn how smile after 30 years, so, that shows how much they got it, I guess.
Right you are right. Maybe Arnie shouldnt have said that line though. The "hasta la vista" line was taught by John and he I supposed felt it was appropriate then. But the "I need a vacation" doesn't make sense for a t800 even "joking". That's his purpose. A fighting machine.
He will show up at the end opening up his cabin to show he still has a piece of t-1000 that he tortures.
Yep, it's all in T1 no rubber skin and everything including bad breath
I think the movie is going to end up with 58% RT.
Some really good ideas but half baked execution.
But I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised with mid 70% rating because I absolutely adore the series and want a nice send off.
Some really good ideas but half baked execution.
But I'm hoping to be pleasantly surprised with mid 70% rating because I absolutely adore the series and want a nice send off.
I am really cautious with this one. Fool me once, fool me twice and all that. I just don't want to pay for yet another cinematic punch to my face. Movie looks and feels weirdly awkward judging from the trailers but it might seem there's more to it after all. Let's hope, I love me some Schwarzenegger.
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I never doubted it.
I had a feeling WB just sucks with marketing trailers. We seen this before from them. There was no way this movie was worst than Genysis.
I had a feeling WB just sucks with marketing trailers. We seen this before from them. There was no way this movie was worst than Genysis.