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TERF JK Rowling continues to be a hateful bigot.
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From the other threads (sorry i can't quote people from closed threads =/)
I love that there is a reply like "jk rowling is not the villain" and like ... she never said she was in the original tweet, but people defending her only know one way to answer to trans people =P
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and washington post being trash
washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/jk-rowling-controversy-transgender-harry-potter-author-statements-women/
I love that there is a reply like "jk rowling is not the villain" and like ... she never said she was in the original tweet, but people defending her only know one way to answer to trans people =P
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and washington post being trash
washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/24/jk-rowling-controversy-transgender-harry-potter-author-statements-women/
Didn't he call her out not too long ago, publicly on Twitter?
I guess her being such a wonderful storyteller overrides that.
Not exactly. He retweeted something Rowling said that didn't appear TERFy out of context, and then she praised him for being a wonderful author she looked up to. A twitter follower of his asked him to assert that trans women are women and when he did, Rowling deleted her tweet praising him.
Also I understand why all Rowling TERFy developments consolidate in this thread, but I do think the Eddie Redmayne endorsement goes beyond whatever dumb bullshit she's tweeting. He played a trans woman in The Danish Girl and in light of that I think his endorsement deserves to be discussed as its own topic.
Ugh, Simon Fanshawe. One of the founders of the Stonewall organisation and a major TERF who constantly speaks out about Stonewall's stance on trans rights. He's also one of the supporters of the LGB Alliance. And fuck Tatsuya Ishida too.
Always been trash:
Ah yeah, that was the case. It's weird though, Stephen is someone whose opinions are very clear if you follow him on Twitter, so he's got to be aware of JKR's shitty opinions, right?
So the official stance is that staff are still cool with using this platform to promote her new game then? Very disappointing to hear.
It is not an small indie game that otherwise would get no coverege.
It is a huge game of a huge ip with LOTS of fans that might not know how bad shit is otherwise. It is better to allow people make threads and educate people there, since people who are excited abou the game regardless will enter those threads and read at least the moderation warnings
I think it sends more of a message to disallow promotion of the game on this site, and explain to people why that is, than promote it with a staff message saying that it's okay for people to bring up her transphobia when talking about it.
not allowing this game to be talked here just means people will get news about in other places, and most other places don't give a fuck about mentioning how shitty are her views
not allowing the game to be discussed is basically censorship and there are people who are excited for this game, like myself. Allowing the game to be talked about also allows people to know what's going on and make their own decisions. As long as things are civil between members, I think continuing to discuss about HP is still fine.
shes still crap though.
I do see your point, but based on the threads we've had so far, it seems that many people just don't care and only want to talk about their video game.
I think it says more when that discussion is not allowed. Not by simply locking all threads on the game, but having a thread discussing why that is which can be referenced each time - like this one, but perhaps more specific.
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The site should just auto-replace "Harry Potter" with "Transphobic Rowling's Harry Potter".
It's kind of fucked up that this thread was locked and with a generic moderation message. I think my explanation for having it be its own thread was quite valid.
www.resetera.com
A megathread makes sense for discussion about her tweeting out something bigoted every week.
The Redmayne story is about his defense of bigotry. Not Rowling's.
Allowing separate threads on her movies and video games but not allowing a separate thread for Redmayne's comments is misguided.
Eddie Redmayne (cis actor who played trans character in 2015) says online 'vitriol' aimed at J.K. Rowling is 'absolutely disgusting'
Hopefully this thread is okay. While I know there is now a consolidated thread for news of J.K. Rowling's bigotry, I think it would be irresponsible to bury this story in there. This specific story is more about Eddie Redmayne than J.K. Rowling at this point, especially given his history...
www.resetera.com
A megathread makes sense for discussion about her tweeting out something bigoted every week.
The Redmayne story is about his defense of bigotry. Not Rowling's.
Allowing separate threads on her movies and video games but not allowing a separate thread for Redmayne's comments is misguided.
Eddie Red can choke for all I care. But if Stephen King turns out to be shitty on this issue, that would legit hurt my soul.
J.K. Rowling retracts tweet praising Stephen King after he supported transgender women
J.K. Rowling walked back praise for Stephen King after her fellow author spoke out against her recent anti-transgender comments.
www.usatoday.com
Seems like King is good people.
J.K. Rowling retracts tweet praising Stephen King after he supported transgender women
J.K. Rowling walked back praise for Stephen King after her fellow author spoke out against her recent anti-transgender comments.www.usatoday.com
Seems like King is good people.
Well, King just tweeted today praising her new book and called her an incredible storyteller, so I wouldn't be too quick on that just yet lol
Thank you.
And to be clear, I don't think there's anything hateful about what the mods decided here. It's just misguided.
If Rowling does or says something transphobic, which is constant, I understand it being in a megathread as long as it is still allowed to be discussed in Potter threads (which it is).
But another known celebrity -- the face of a multi-million dollar franchise -- supporting her? That shouldn't be hidden deep in a megathread.
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I wish Eddie hadn't said those things as he is one of my favorite actors working today. I absolutely adored "The Theory of Everything". It hurts me to see all these people still supporting her or even "Both Sides"-ing the whole thing when there is clearly not a "Both Sides" to this issue. She is a hateful bigot who deserves to be dragged for what she said and now Eddie gets to be dragged as well because of his defense.
I'm a bit confused on why Eddie's stance doesn't constitute new news new thread. When actors or prominent people come out for or against a specific subject that was unknown about that person threads get made over that. I get a thread to collect the continuous spew from JK herself but Eddie backing her seems like a new thing worth discussing on its own no?
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If you follow him and read his opinions about pretty much everything, he's great people, but yeah this one instance is weird and I'm baffled.
Depp probably shouldn't be included here given how that story has played out but I get you.
Well, everyone is great at pretending to be good until the big slip, and then the mask comes off. We'll see
yup. if you support people like this, you don't lose your good person card... you never had it to begin with
I also agree that we shouldn't bury something like Eddie's stance on her into this thread. I thought the whole just posting it in this thread, was relating to whatever shit Rowling herself is doing.
But anyway, just sad regarding Eddie. As I said in the first locked thread, I became quite fond of Newt, in particular because he could possibly be on the autism spectrum, and Eddie felt like that was the case too. Whether Rowling meant that or not, I felt like there was enough to make it a headcanon at least, and it was nice for a time, but alas.
But anyway, just sad regarding Eddie. As I said in the first locked thread, I became quite fond of Newt, in particular because he could possibly be on the autism spectrum, and Eddie felt like that was the case too. Whether Rowling meant that or not, I felt like there was enough to make it a headcanon at least, and it was nice for a time, but alas.
It never really felt right with me back when Hawking first slipped up praising Rowling that he didn't actually take that back. He responded to someone else saying trans women are women which is the absolute bare minimum, but he didn't take back his praise then nor respond more concretely about it (the way Mark Hamill directly apologized for misunderstanding). Coming back to the same thing now specifically to praise her new transphobic book is just a bigger red flag for me.
Really shitty to bury other people people coming out to support JKR's bigotry and that it has to be hidden away in the JKR thread. That's not a "known transphobe does another transphobic thing" thread.
Really shitty to bury other people people coming out to support JKR's bigotry and that it has to be hidden away in the JKR thread. That's not a "known transphobe does another transphobic thing" thread.
"Vitriol in social media" is always such a bullshit whataboutism argument particularly in cases like these where marginalized groups like trans people not only get vitriol in social media but it's vitriol that's compounded by physical, social & political harassment and violence experienced by marginalized groups in real life, shit that a multimillionaire like Rowling is well and truly insulated from. If she or anyone else thinks their fucking Twitter blowing up with disgusting hate is the height of depravity they should take a look at something like the Unerased project and proceed to actually contextualize not just where they fucking stand in society & what marginalization & oppression truly looks like. Rowling doesn't "deserve" death threats or the like but trying to pretend she's recieving some equivalent harm to the people she's actively disenfranchising is the pinnacle of obliviousness. Fuck Eddie for that shit. Doubly pissed at his Danish Girl casting when this reveals how little empathy he has for trans people and his part in keeping them silenced & unseen. At the end of the day, if it meant not having to confront his personal complicity in keeping trans people disenfranchised or the complicity/active participation of his influential friends, he was always willing to throw trans people under the bus.
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Kind of wish we would get a mod response here that they are at least looking into how this thread works.
The story is buried in this thread and barely being noticed on Era because of it.
Welp. That's privilege. Being able to stand up and call someone out for bigotry but at the same time, hey that doesnt actually matter when i don't want to pay attention to it for other reasons. It doesn't affect me!J.K. Rowling retracts tweet praising Stephen King after he supported transgender women
J.K. Rowling walked back praise for Stephen King after her fellow author spoke out against her recent anti-transgender comments.www.usatoday.com
Seems like King is good people.
Agreed.
And on top of that, I don't know why we aren't treating Rowling news like videogame news. New news of any kind gets a new thread, so that people who aren't engaged in the constant OT discussion about the game get to see it. I'm probably not going to check the Official J K Rowling Transphobia Megathread every time it gets bumped, but you'd better believe I'd read every new thread about a new instance of newsworthy Rowling TERFism that pops up in Etcetera. If nothing else, seeing how often those threads appear acts as a barometer for just how often she publically pushes her agenda; as well as the reactions of people like the cast of the movies to her statements.
Edit: Read up on it, and I now understand it's because seeing JKR news threads pop up is understandably triggering for some users. I think working on a pre-emptive ignore/hide feature would be a better way to go, because visible coverage of the TERFist culture war erupting around JKR in the UK is petty important news.
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Hey all. The concern about the Redmayne thread has come to our attention. There aren't a lot of staff on right now but we're deliberating on it. Thanks for your patience.
if resetera isnt against it, its for it.
they are fine against the easy targets, but when it comes to a difficult decision, like banning the promotion of work by hateful bigots, pedophile showbiz stars like jackson, rapist sports stars etc nothing happens.
that list above is sickening.
Alexander Armstrong, Ben Miller? fuck them!
They did it because trans members told them it was triggering to constantly have new "JK Rowling is a TERF" threads on the front page. You can kindly stfu trying to use abused children as a cudgel against this forum after the absolute garbage you posted in the Shamima Begum thread though, you don't give one iota of a shit about victims so don't come in here pretending like you do.
Well, this mega thread came to be because a lot of trans members on Era would rather have JK Rowling news consolidated in one place. Having a thread for every thing she says and does can make it distressing and exhausting if you're the target of her transphobia, and frankly it's difficult to justify making a thread about JK Rowling boosting a transphobic clothing line (which I think was the thread that led to this mega thread decision).
I agree though that news like Eddie Redmayne deserves its own thread. It's big news that got a lot more traction and attention in both the threads that were made on the subject.
I understand that maybe not every transphobic tweet needs its own separate thread, and we should be careful not to signal boost transphobic businesses like the clothing thing, but yeah, I'm not sure if all of it should be hidden here. Would it perhaps be a good idea that trans people should be the ones to make the decision whether something is new thread worthy or not? Post here first and if there seems to be a decently unified consensus that trans members feel like it should get larger attention, then post a new thread.
Still think all things Harry Potter should be thrown the fuck out of this forum, no ifs or buts.
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