I'm pretty sure WB was completely blindsided by this manifesto. And I agree, it's time for her to leave the franchise. We've taken franchises from their creators for much less
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TERF JK Rowling continues to be a hateful bigot.
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I'm pretty sure WB was completely blindsided by this manifesto. And I agree, it's time for her to leave the franchise. We've taken franchises from their creators for much less
I just don't get it at all, why is this her hill to die on? During pride month no less you keep shitting all over one of the most persecuted, marginalized communities on the planet because…?
The THR article from earlier today states that Rowling has an ironclad contract for writing and producing the Fantastic Beasts movies. She cannot be removed unwillingly.
But even if she could be, you unfortunately overestimate the degree to which people care about trans people outside of leftist circles. WB and the Potter brand will suffer no meaningful financial loss from Rowling's statements.
But even if she could be, you unfortunately overestimate the degree to which people care about trans people outside of leftist circles. WB and the Potter brand will suffer no meaningful financial loss from Rowling's statements.
Yup, I unfortunately don't see the general public caring enough about trans people to stop supporting her and Harry Potter over this.
It's more likely that her shitty writing and additions to the universe is what turns people away from this franchise.
They stuck with Depp for the sequel despite the accusations against him; it remains to be seen whether they stick with Ezra Miller after the stuff he did recently but it's probable. They could easily just do nothing if they can get her back to being quiet; I'm not sure how many people know this, but she was actually off Twitter entirely until the past few months. Given that her tweeting now is seemingly prompted by quarantining (which is to say: they totally do know what she's like and she was keeping quiet for business reasons prior to this), and the movie's filming has been delayed further than it already was by the same, I feel it's gonna be a matter of whether that movie is even real enough to need to quiet her vs it being so far out that they don't feel the need to try just yet. Of course, the mask removal to begin with, made far worse when it was followed by this, can't be walked back into silence as easily as anything prior.
Though there is also that they have a game they'll need to promote, one that they were probably banking on associating with Fantastic Beasts 3. And, hell, now that I think of it... the game could totally even have her name in its title, given that they probably can't use "Harry Potter" directly given its time setting (basically, if they think "JK Rowling's Wizarding World: SUBTITLE" would get more recognition than "Wizarding World: SUBTITLE").
What. The. Fuck. I just found out about her manifesto, and in the first three paragraphs she's managed to insult and degrade trans men, trans women, trans activists, all afab people(by rooting their value as human beings to their fertility), people with autism, and more. She also thrown out a 'think of the children' argument, an argument about people transitioning due to homophobic bullying rather than genuine desire, and misgendered trans people left and right.
This is like a TERF bingo card.
Oh, and she defended Donald Trump. I wish I was kidding.
This is like a TERF bingo card.
Oh, and she defended Donald Trump. I wish I was kidding.
I just went to the Rowling subreddit
At least the Harry Potter subreddit has sense
I mean just look at some of the responses on this site. While I've been pleasantly surprised overall, it's clear that some people will never care.Gamers need their games or people are so wrapped up in defending Harry Potter that all they care about is anyone daring to besmirch it's quality.
I thought this thread was a pretty good point by point takedown of Rowling's bullshit and definitely worth a read.
I could only make it about halfway into that article. I'm not trans, but I am a huge HP fan, and it breaks my heart to read that. I'd either scream or break down if forced to continue reading that. I feel for everyone here (or everywhere really) who is directly affected by this, y'all deserve so much better.
1000000000000000% this. Shaun vids did an excellent video extrapolating on this. Lots of cis women have 'concerns' that 'must be taken seriously' but they rarely, if ever, say what those are, because that's when they can suffer serious repercussions. Same thing with how white people had 'concerns' about non-whites being allowed into previously white only areas many decades ago, or how straight people had 'concerns' about sharing spaces with gay people. It's bigotry and hatred. Same things every time.
1000000000000000% this. Shaun vids did an excellent video extrapolating on this. Lots of cis women have 'concerns' that 'must be taken seriously' but they rarely, if ever, say what those are, because that's when they can suffer serious repercussions. Same thing with how white people had 'concerns' about non-whites being allowed into previously white only areas many decades ago, or how straight people had 'concerns' about sharing spaces with gay people. It's bigotry and hatred. Same things every time.
That's funny because she earlier claimed she's been supporting trans people for decades.... lol
Wow, just fucking wow. Does that bigoted essay have a new thread? Because it absolutely deserves one.
Excellent and expected response from her. It's unfortunate that her and Dan do not go so far as to condemn Rowling as she ultimately deserves to be but that's also kinda expected but I'm not going to get too irritated by that as they're clearly good people who are absolutely right here.
Crazy to me that JK can see all the people who brought her property to life going directly against her, and still not budge an inch. I just don't get why she has such a stake in this, there's only everything to lose from her firm stance.
I have to say Trans activism will destroy the ability to properly research Multiple Sclerosis is a new one
He did a great job going through every point and outlining the holes in her "essay" in exhaustive detail. Of course, we have TERFs in the comments calling him a "sexist" and a "woman-hater".
Transphobia is still culturally accepted and not career ending by any means, certainly not in the UK.
I feel like her transphobia had a small amount of plausible deniability until this past week or two. You had to kind of dig a little because she mostly liked tweets that revealed her transphobia. So it makes some sense that she hasn't faced much mainstream backlash for her views until she made then explicit recently.
Jesus... she is seriously invested in her hatred of trans people, huh?
What kind of person looks at everything happening in the world right now and thinks "I should write an essay on why trans women are just men trying to sneak into our bathrooms."?
What kind of person looks at everything happening in the world right now and thinks "I should write an essay on why trans women are just men trying to sneak into our bathrooms."?
But then she topped herself by listing trans activists as part of the New Misogyny alongside Donald Trump and Incels.
That reminds me to never forget: you can reach the same conclusions as other people for completely different reasons.
This is literally super fucked up.
Supporting trans people is woke virtue signaling.
SO instead i'll say that women should be afraid of the trans movement and that the trans movement erodes women's biology and political reality and covers for predators....
She might as well just say the trans movement is a pro rape movement.... would explain why she thinks we're like incels and Donald Trump.
What a fucking fuck.
Btw her only trans friend is a older trans woman who identifies as a transsexual and JK believes her experience is the ideal one fro trans people because she had to go through hoop after hoop to get coverage and treament. Aka she likes gatekeeping, she wants more gatekeeping
One of the more stunning elements is how often JK dismisses suicide amongst trans people as something to be mocked.
The one time you wish the pablum corporate machine had bought full control of an author's original IP and it's the one time it can't happen :'(
Copyright is life + 70 years in UK and US. So more like 100 years lol.
Edit: oh you mean WB employing other authors after her death? That wouldn't work for the publishers with the books though would it? I don't think they have sufficent rights.
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Lost on this whole thing is not a single mention that increasing policing of bathroom access will actually put a huge number of gender non conforming cis women, especially a lot of the butch lesbians she claims to love so much, at increased risk of violence and abuse in women's washrooms because people will be empowered and encouraged to play "spot the trans" and ironically, given how JK seems to imply it's trans women who "reinforce feminine steretypes", this means women who don't conform to femininity will be targeted.
Sounds just like religious extremism.
Striking how many people are okay with that as long as the extremism is shaped like themselves.
For a feminist who claims to be looking out for women she was really quick with associating bravery with manhood
Goddamn the Guardian is trash to run this as the headline.
Like this is fucking manipulative AF
What's amazing is TERFs think this article:
JK Rowling reveals she is survivor of domestic abuse and sexual assault
Author reveals experiences in essay after facing criticism over her comments on trans issues
www.theguardian.com
Is too pro trans lmao
There we go, one more down. Matthew Lewis and Rupert Grint, y'all up next.
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