How are they the worst option? Is there an actual reason or is it just "China is scary"?
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How are they the worst option? Is there an actual reason or is it just "China is scary"?
So it's sometime down the line, a very long time from now vs. someone being selective *now*?
This is the stuff that comes out through the cracks:
Tencent is reportedly raising several $ billion to buy a U.S. or Korean gaming company Rumor
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/china-plans-for-corporate-social-credit-system-eu-sinolytics-report.html...
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We have no idea what is behind the curtains and I dont wanna think about it.
Imagine tencent buying take2?
Yeah we should not want that.
This is the stuff that comes out through the cracks:
Tencent is reportedly raising several $ billion to buy a U.S. or Korean gaming company Rumor
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/china-plans-for-corporate-social-credit-system-eu-sinolytics-report.html...
We have no idea what is behind the curtains and I dont wanna think about it.
Imagine tencent buying take2?
Yeah we should not want that.
I don't want consolidation in general. But if the choices are Tencent or Microsoft, I'll go with the choice that results in me NOT getting less games.
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Talk about Tencent without resorting to western propaganda challenge; already failed.
I don't know why you are struggling with the fact Sony has over time built up a good stable of developers from within and from acquisitions. Seems to me those who have the biggest beef are those who likely found multiple reasons to not buy an Xbox and now they might have to if they want to play certain games. So what did you think Microsoft was going to do, nothing and allow Sony to once again steamroll over them while they use that leverage against them with third party deals?
It was no secret Sony was already getting their hands on games like Deathloop and the rumors are they wanted Starfield. Microsoft has been more active because they finally have the support of the CEO. They never had this kind of support before.
This is where I don't see any of the console makers to go after that. Rockstar does not make enough games to warrant the price they would have to pay and then keep them exclusive. This is where I think Tencent would actually make more sense.
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If this is a real concern then this should be one as well, right?This is the stuff that comes out through the cracks:
Tencent is reportedly raising several $ billion to buy a U.S. or Korean gaming company Rumor
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/04/china-plans-for-corporate-social-credit-system-eu-sinolytics-report.html...
We have no idea what is behind the curtains and I dont wanna think about it.
Imagine tencent buying take2?
Yeah we should not want that.
Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
Documents show company collaborated closely with NSA and FBI to help agencies intercept data
www.theguardian.com
Report: Microsoft collaborated closely with NSA
A new report from the Guardian newspaper claims Microsoft willingly collaborated with the NSA on users' data.
'We did not sign up to develop weapons': Microsoft workers protest $480m HoloLens military deal
The open letter comes days before Microsoft is expected to unveil HoloLens 2, an upgraded version of its augmented reality headset, at an event Sunday.
www.nbcnews.com
Despite internal uproar, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella says the company is not cancelling its contract with the US Army
Microsoft is providing the US military with Hololens augmented reality headsets to help soldiers increase 'lethality, mobility and situational awareness.'
www.businessinsider.com
Don't worry about Tencent buying Take Two / Rockstar and making GTA exclusive to some service.
The economics of that approach simply don't work out. You'd be knee-capping the revenue streams you're implicitly paying for in the acquisition.
No matter what your economic model, at a certain point the opportunity cost becomes too great.
The economics of that approach simply don't work out. You'd be knee-capping the revenue streams you're implicitly paying for in the acquisition.
No matter what your economic model, at a certain point the opportunity cost becomes too great.
They are already the biggest game corporation in the world, they wanna keep that I guess. As for who, they are a huge technology and media conglomerate, too much to list, but gaming wise League of Legends is probably their biggest I.P.
If this is a real concern then this should be one as well, right?
Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
Documents show company collaborated closely with NSA and FBI to help agencies intercept data
Report: Microsoft collaborated closely with NSA
A new report from the Guardian newspaper claims Microsoft willingly collaborated with the NSA on users' data.www.cnn.com
'We did not sign up to develop weapons': Microsoft workers protest $480m HoloLens military deal
The open letter comes days before Microsoft is expected to unveil HoloLens 2, an upgraded version of its augmented reality headset, at an event Sunday.
Despite internal uproar, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella says the company is not cancelling its contract with the US Army
Microsoft is providing the US military with Hololens augmented reality headsets to help soldiers increase 'lethality, mobility and situational awareness.'
Microsoft productivity score feature criticised as workplace surveillance
THE MICROSOFT POLICE STATE: MASS SURVEILLANCE, FACIAL RECOGNITION, AND THE AZURE CLOUD
Their hands are not clean.
As for that Take Two rumor, i don't think it's plausible. Take Two won't sell before GTA 6 release. Their stocks will skyrocket in that moment (eventually).
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A lot more than just several billion. Probably 25-30 billion I guess.
Edit: Though I guess they mightn't be after full ownership, but a large stake. I think Take-Two is 1 of the few major publishers they don't have any in yet.
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Whatever the cost now, it would be billions more after gta6 releases.
Cant go wrong with take2.
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They are already the ''biggest'' in several aspects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent
They are just putting its roots on gaming more and more, mid year they did this for example:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tencent-kicks-off-deal-create-115255364.html
Because as soon as he speculates something you'll see several news story saying he's stating it as fact.
Anyone thinking that Ubi is the target is undervaluing the company by several billions.
It's the pubg people.
Anyone guessing EA or Activision is just sincredibly ignorant or trolling.
It really depends if Tencent also wants to force people to their service or not.
No one is saying MS 's hands are clean - but don't need to do a whataboutism to justify Tencent's acquisitions.
When the US government has board members and stakes in Microsoft this will be more relevantIf this is a real concern then this should be one as well, right?
Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
Documents show company collaborated closely with NSA and FBI to help agencies intercept data
Report: Microsoft collaborated closely with NSA
A new report from the Guardian newspaper claims Microsoft willingly collaborated with the NSA on users' data.
'We did not sign up to develop weapons': Microsoft workers protest $480m HoloLens military deal
The open letter comes days before Microsoft is expected to unveil HoloLens 2, an upgraded version of its augmented reality headset, at an event Sunday.
Despite internal uproar, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella says the company is not cancelling its contract with the US Army
Microsoft is providing the US military with Hololens augmented reality headsets to help soldiers increase 'lethality, mobility and situational awareness.'
Western propaganda? Get outta here.
They co-operate happily with the government engaging in a blatant and unapologetic holocaust right now. Less money going straight to China is a win.
And don't give me some bullshit false equivalence about "America too". I'm not even American lol
Likely options
Bungie
Krafton
Square Enix Western Studios aka Eidos/Crystal Dynamics - this seems like an impossible breakup just waiting to happen
Less likely
Take Two
Techland
Unlikely to impossible
Every other major company I can think of, ea, Activision, 1sf parties ect
Bungie
Krafton
Square Enix Western Studios aka Eidos/Crystal Dynamics - this seems like an impossible breakup just waiting to happen
Less likely
Take Two
Techland
Unlikely to impossible
Every other major company I can think of, ea, Activision, 1sf parties ect
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People are saying tencent since they keep things multiplatform and are hands off .
If want to talk other reasons that is another matter than what is best for most people .
Then that's an argument against Sony/Nintendo/MS from ever acquiring which seems.... wrong, and too broad a comment. It's also not consistent since there are asterisks to those lists and decisions. And I'm not sure Tencent has a long term vision of being hands off - they are in too many industries doing too many things to feel super confident where they will end up. And any violations legally or otherwise isn't super transparent or clear whereas MS/etc has Euro/US regulators using a pretty firm hand to keep them on track.
Honestly, when Cyberpunk was released I wondered if there would be any company dearing to profit from CDPR's low and buy them at a good price. They can recover their name, they have TW exclusivity I believe, and honestly they're good it was the management who let them down.
Well Tencent already has 100 million invested in them already.
Tencent has been buying up companies for years now and has been hands off.
Yes maybe in the future they will start there own service .
As for now them buying anyone does not have a major effect to any consumer base unlike Sony\MS or Nintendo does.
Also it's not like Tencent can do what ever they want they still have to follow rules and laws of EU\USA etc etc .
What?
Crystal Dynamics is most certainly California based, and Eidos Montreal is in Montreal, in combination with Square Enix Inc, the localization and publishing branch for North America, it would be a strategic package.
So be forced into a service now or be forced into a service god knows how many years down the line.
You do realize that Krafton upcoming IPO has them valued at $27Billion. Significantly higher than Ubi.
Forgot about Crystal Dynamics but Eidos Montreal is just a branch of an English company - the "Eidos" bit of Square Enix is as American as Ubisoft (mentioned earlier) is
