You're right, they're not the same. At least Tencent won't deny certain platforms their games when they acquire a company.
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You're right, they're not the same. At least Tencent won't deny certain platforms their games when they acquire a company.
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could.
China is building a 'comprehensive system' for tracking companies' activities, report says
The corporate "credit system" that China is launching will require businesses — foreign and local alike — to share more data than ever before.
www.cnbc.com
Chinese tech giant Tencent reportedly surveilled foreign users of WeChat to help censorship at home
Chinese internet giant Tencent has been surveilling content posted by foreign users on its wildly popular messaging service WeChat in order to help it refine censorship on its platform at home, according to a new report.
www.cnbc.com
WeChat Becomes a Powerful Surveillance Tool Everywhere in China
China’s do-everything app, WeChat, has become one of the most powerful tools in Beijing’s arsenal for monitoring the public, censoring speech and punishing people who voice discontent with the government.
www.wsj.com
man I cannot wait to read the reactions on here when amazon or google scoop someone notable up, sadly there's a good chance this will keep happening throughout the year but it is what it is. Pretty crazy to imagine what the gaming industry will look like in 5 years time
I don't see a problem unless it is a hostile takeover and frankly even then you can argue that it is your shareholders that are sabotaging you.
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could.
China is building a 'comprehensive system' for tracking companies' activities, report says
The corporate "credit system" that China is launching will require businesses — foreign and local alike — to share more data than ever before.
Chinese tech giant Tencent reportedly surveilled foreign users of WeChat to help censorship at home
Chinese internet giant Tencent has been surveilling content posted by foreign users on its wildly popular messaging service WeChat in order to help it refine censorship on its platform at home, according to a new report.
WeChat Becomes a Powerful Surveillance Tool Everywhere in China
China’s do-everything app, WeChat, has become one of the most powerful tools in Beijing’s arsenal for monitoring the public, censoring speech and punishing people who voice discontent with the government.
I...did not know this.
Miss me with this, industry consolidation has been a thing for years, MS didn't start it and they won't be at the end of it.
Publishers merging with other publishers is common, publishers buying studios is also common.
This is nothing new in the industry, unless you are living under the rock and you woke up when MS acquired Bethesda.
Because one makes a platform and the other doesn't, yeah.
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could.
China is building a 'comprehensive system' for tracking companies' activities, report says
The corporate "credit system" that China is launching will require businesses — foreign and local alike — to share more data than ever before.
Chinese tech giant Tencent reportedly surveilled foreign users of WeChat to help censorship at home
Chinese internet giant Tencent has been surveilling content posted by foreign users on its wildly popular messaging service WeChat in order to help it refine censorship on its platform at home, according to a new report.
WeChat Becomes a Powerful Surveillance Tool Everywhere in China
China’s do-everything app, WeChat, has become one of the most powerful tools in Beijing’s arsenal for monitoring the public, censoring speech and punishing people who voice discontent with the government.
good info. tyvm.
Hard to know geography when it is no longer part of our K-12 curriculum.
They're a shady company with ties to an authoritarian government, no thank you
Which big gaming company hasn't dabbled in acquisition in the past?
It's an industry norm at this point
They didn't say MS started it, they said MS fuelled it, and there's no denying MS' aggressive acquisition strategy is escalating the situation.
No thanks, fuck off Tencent. The way they are slowly encroaching their way through the gaming market is scary. They have their fingers in a lot pies and you'll begin to see their influence soon enough much like Hollywood was doing for Chinese cinemas. Not that is always a bad thing.
Which other major publishers have bought out another major publisher other than Microsoft?
THQ Nordic has been aggressively acquiring studios for years now. Why aren't they the ones being accused of 'escalating the situation'?
MS fueled nothing, they had a chance with Bethesda and they took it, they offered money to small studios and they acquired them.
Embracer has acquired more than 20 different studios in the last 3 years and you don't see people saying that Embracer is fueling consolidation.
Nacon did the same
EA and Sony when saw the opportunity did the same with Respawn, Codemasters and Insomniac Games.
This is nothing NEW, are we all forgetting Eidos and Square Enix merger? SEGA Europe massive acquisition spree? Tecmo and Koei? Namco and Bandai? Activision and Blizzard? Come on now.
EA recently did a last-minute bid on Codemasters, beating out Take-2's offer (Take-2 withdrew the offer as they weren't challenging EA's bid)
EA with Codemasters.
or Eidos and Square Enix
or Activision and Blizzard
This is all common in the industry
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Toumari was quoting two posts asking "MS to save us from Tencent", in this context MS, and most big gaming companies, are also "part of the problem"(Which may or not be a problem depending on your opinion on the subject), there is no savior in this situation.
They have ties to the social credit system, surveilled foreign consumers and I have attached a video from a Youtuber I admire that goes into more detail than I ever could.
China is building a 'comprehensive system' for tracking companies' activities, report says
The corporate "credit system" that China is launching will require businesses — foreign and local alike — to share more data than ever before.
Chinese tech giant Tencent reportedly surveilled foreign users of WeChat to help censorship at home
Chinese internet giant Tencent has been surveilling content posted by foreign users on its wildly popular messaging service WeChat in order to help it refine censorship on its platform at home, according to a new report.
WeChat Becomes a Powerful Surveillance Tool Everywhere in China
China’s do-everything app, WeChat, has become one of the most powerful tools in Beijing’s arsenal for monitoring the public, censoring speech and punishing people who voice discontent with the government.
Welp
CCP seems to have their claws in so many industries.
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There's no problem, this is business, gaming is a multi-billion dollar industry and like all industries acquisitions and mergers are common, there's nothing wrong with this lol
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Worth remembering that Blizzard itself was previously owned by Vivendi and Davidson before being bought up by Activision. They've been owned by 3 different companies over the past 30 years. So yeah, it's not a new thing at all.
It's a private company, it's done. They - Tencent - can't big higher like EA did with Codemasters.
These are extremely infrequent, and also not good for the industry. No one was cheerleading Activision buying Blizzard. MS has made a series of acquisitions in a short time, including possibly one of the biggest ever, and they're not done. Saying MS aren't being particularly aggressive here is not arguing in good faith.
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Anyway my money is on Bungie. Their management is bipolar, better buy them before they change their minds.
Who is cheerleading or saying MS is not agressive? Not me.
I'm telling you and all the people crying because apparently MS is fueling consolation when this always happened in various periods of times when publishers had the money to spend, and Embracer was way more aggressive than MS.
Once you're past two billion, there really aren't that many US gaming companies to buy at that price.
That's because MS is a platform holder and has been told they have "no games" for years. What did you expect them to do?
Tencent
Bandai
Activision Blizzard
Vivendi
Nordic Games
Probably some others I can't recall right now, I guess Sony would be on this list too if they didn't lose their bid to Tencent
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What exactly do you consider frequent, and what do you compare it to? These are enough examples to show you it's not an irregularity.
If only Sony wasn't publicly traded, and/or PlayStation business was up for sale.
In the last 20 years, 5 publisher disappeared because they either merged in one entity (SQUARE ENIX, TECMO KOEI, NAMCO BANDAI) or disappeared entirely, see Midway or THQ Nordic.
Acqusition are extremely common and frequent when corps have cash available at hand, case in point, Embracer has 4 publisher and they all appeared thanks to mergers/acquisitions in the last 3-4 years.
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I was referring to Sony trying to buy a publisher a few months back, where Tencent ended up buying them instead.
I certainly think the jury is out there on whether MS aggressive acquisitions strategy is causing other companies to pursue their own acquisitions, or whether this is business as usual. But as for 'who is cheerleading MS'? That's how this got started. Literally people cheerleading MS to make more acquisitions in this very thread.
EDIT: Also did you use three examples of mergers to show that large scale acquisitions are frequent?