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Temtem's approach to gender identity should become the norm for games
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IMHO, it still asks you for the gender you want them to be, you just get as much choice as possible in doing so. It needs to be in everything but lol I've lost faith in AAA
so its still stupid
But then locks you into a gender's clothing and body/animation type
so its still stupid
I was actually thinking about getting this game earlier today as a Pokemon fix so this is good to see.
Not sure if I should wait for it to come out of EA or not.
Not sure if I should wait for it to come out of EA or not.
It then also had characters throw transphobic insults at you if you picked a trans or nonbinary option so let's not give that game credit for being progressive in that regard. It's still South Park.
this is pretty great. it would be great to see if eventually everything just did what letterboxd does.
I don't know how well custom pronouns would work. I've seen at least one instance in Temtem where you're referred to without pronouns, specifically "Sir".
The Temtem wiki lists the rival, Max, as nonbinary. I'm not too sure if that's accurate, but it probably is.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the options are Kare and either aitsu or doushi, I would have to check (I think aitsu?). I 100% know it wasn't kanojo though so it should be a gender-neutral one.
Outside of some weird things with particle positioning in battles the translation seems pretty good, and that positioning problem is likely just a bug since it seems to be caused by a huge space being inserted after the name of variables. I kind of wonder if 8-4 had a hand in the Japanese translation TBH.
The way 2064 Read Only Memories handled it was nice, gave you most of those options and let you put custom ones in if you wanted to as well.this is pretty great. it would be great to see if eventually everything just did what letterboxd does.
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Here you go!
When you first start creating your character, it defaults to the tab for your character's body type:
If you go to the far right tab, you're prompted to enter your character's name and select your pronouns:
When you first go to that tab, it actually has a little pop-up prompt for your name, followed by your pronouns. After you choose them, it looks like the screen above. I didn't get a shot of the prompts though; sorry if you needed them. Still, I hope these help.
Even just making all customization available for both male and female trainers in Pokemon would be a huge improvement, but man the Temtem set up is awesome.
Thank you so much!Here you go!
When you first start creating your character, it defaults to the tab for your character's body type:
If you go to the far right tab, you're prompted to enter your character's name and select your pronouns:
When you first go to that tab, it actually has a little pop-up prompt for your name, followed by your pronouns. After you choose them, it looks like the screen above. I didn't get a shot of the prompts though; sorry if you needed them. Still, I hope these help.
Someone mentioned that the character model is randomized to start, is that correct? So you get a random model on the left and then can select freely?
What kinds of prompts does it ask beforehand/afterward?
It does start off randomized and then you select. You go through the rest of the tabs (Head Shape/Face/Eye Color, then Hair/Hair Color (you can choose to color the tips), then shirt/colors, pants/colors, backpack/colors, and then you go to the final tab where it forces you to write a name and then select pronoun but then moves to the menu you see in the second screenshot.)
It is indeed Randomized, this one was mine:
As for the prompts: (Char looks different because i needed to change language and its a new randomized one)
Also prompts in german, Where there's no gender neutral pronoun:
Thanks a ton to both of you. I've documented it for my project. <3It is indeed Randomized, this one was mine:
As for the prompts: (Char looks different because i needed to change language and its a new randomized one)
Also prompts in german, Where there's no gender neutral pronoun:
The game itself looks pretty fun. Fully multiplayer Pokemon-style MMO... Not like that wouldn't have been a dream when I was younger.
This might just be the extra little push that gets me to buy the game (Although since there appear to be server issues, I'll hold on until those are fixed), because I think this is a nice precedent to set for games with character creation.
Looking at some of the negative reviews on Steam... There are actually some people mad about this (Thankfully, this group is just a minority). God, that's pathetic.
This might just be the extra little push that gets me to buy the game (Although since there appear to be server issues, I'll hold on until those are fixed), because I think this is a nice precedent to set for games with character creation.
Looking at some of the negative reviews on Steam... There are actually some people mad about this (Thankfully, this group is just a minority). God, that's pathetic.
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In spanish there isn't an officially accepted gender neutral pronoun, but people just "invented" it a while back and use that (Elle/elles). This game makes use of it even though it doesn't exist officially.
I remember Battletech had a "They" pronoun option, does anyone know how that worked in non-English translations?
That's really cool!
If I remember correctly I think that Rebel Galaxy Outlaws let you pick a pronoun too but there's no customization of the character afterward.
Edit: Hmmm, looking at the post before mine... Maybe I was thinking of Battletech? Not sure...
honnest question, what is supposed to mean They/Them in that context?
Doesn't thoses words supposed to be used for plurial ?
(I'm not English native)
Doesn't thoses words supposed to be used for plurial ?
(I'm not English native)
Battletech does allow you to customise your character portrait.
"They/Them" can also be used as a singular gender-neutral pronoun. It has its proponents and opponents but is currently more widely used than the alternatives, afaik.
In this instance it's a singular pronoun for people who don't identify with the traditional binary gender system, i.e non-binary folks.
"They" has always been common in singular-use for a long time without people realizing it (even native speakers). Most common when someone's gender is unknown, like to a baby, but even in known cases you can hear phrases like "what are they doing?" referring to a singular person without any second-thought.
Note that yeah even using with "are" instead of "is" it can still be singular - which if you haven't noticed is also the way we talk about "you" - "you are" not "you is", and the reason for that is the word "you" also has its history from a second-person plural pronoun "ye", alongside "thou" as a second-person singular pronoun.
What are the alternatives ?
I find it Strange because in French, the Equivalent words are also gendered. So can't be used for gender-neutral.
"They/Them" translate as
- "Ils/Eux" for a group including at least one man
- 'Elles/Elles" for a group exclusively composed of women
I Don't know what really means "Non Binary". It's a word that i see very ofter on Era but Don't understand.
I could be wrong because i'm not very familiar on the subject, but for me a man that change sex to become a woman ask peoples to be refered as a woman (and vice versa).
Thanks.
I knew about "ye"/"Thou" since thoses words apears in some games that use old English,
There are a number of pronouns that have been created over quite a long time, specifically for use as gender-neutral (as opposed to they/them, which is multi-purpose): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third...and_proposed_gender-neutral_singular_pronouns. By and large, they've failed to catch on and They/Them remains the most widespread. I do rarely hear xe or ze though.
I honestly do not understand anybody who thinks this takes something away from their experience with the game. It's absolutely bizarre. It's great that people have the option.
I literally don't get why you wouldn't do it this way.
It's a win win for everyone. Everyone gets all the options.
It's a win win for everyone. Everyone gets all the options.
The devs are based in Spain so that's cool to see them using it.
Non-Binary doesn't necessitate or have anything to do with being transgender (you *can* be non-binary trans, but one doesn't imply the other), it's simply not identifying particularly with one gender or another - possibly leaning to one side, but again not necessarily. Maybe more masculine one day and feminine the next, or simply comfortable being androgynous, all are valid.
Right, and that's the thing that languages like English are constantly evolving and bending, they aren't rigid and set in stone forever, they change and new meanings catch on. Even in French it's possible non-binary communities have solutions they use you may not be aware of (nor I, as I'm not French!), just as many English native speakers aren't particularly conscious of stuff like they/them.
...Shit, this might be the one time I break my rule on buying Early Access games.
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See an earlier post of mine in this thread:
I totally agree with OP. Letting there be standardized customization options is way preferable to having "girls' clothing" and "boys' clothing", and as a nonbinary person it's really nice to be able to let my characters use they/them pronouns.
