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Telling sick people to be nice to people trying to kill them is just as toxic as anything Bernie Bros ever did

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Kirblar

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MagicDoogies said:
I'm angry because we have already seen 8+ years of moderates running the show and it's lead to fuck all outside of 'reaching across the aisle' to shitty people and authoritarians that leads us to the right at a slow pace as opposed to break neck speed.

Andrew Yang for fucks sakes said it best. Trump is a SYMPTOM of a much larger issues. If M4A, Student Loans, Minimum wage aren't addressed with zero fucking compromise we are going to keep getting the same fucking bullshit.

My home state of Virginia is about to sign a bill that will put a hard cap on Insulin costing more than $50. This was only possible because the governor didn't cave on his socialist ideals. This is an immediate massive positive benefit for countless people living in VA. Imagine how lukewarm this bill would be if we went the 'moderate' way and bargained for $200 monthly as opposed to like $500.

IF Biden wins the general I will guarantee you it's nothing more than lame duck platitudes for four years where either nothing gets done or the flesh turtle in the house lets it rot in backlog.
Additionally would those same Democrats put their vote in for those bills if they knew for a fact that Mitch would pass it through?

Republicans voted MASSIVELY to obliterate ACA when Obama was in office because they KNEW Obama would never sign it into law. Yet the moment Trump came along a lot fewer of them were willing to pull that trigger.
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Ralph Northam is a moderate. Not a socialist.
 
electricblue

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Alligatorjandro said:
M4A or any form of universal healthcare will never happen in America. The rich people make too much money off of the healthcare system to ever allow it.
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Money's power over elections is not infinite as we've seen the most pure examples of in 2020 and 2016
If the people want it bad enough, it will happen no matter how much rich people kick and scream
 
Ghos

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the title and op are so charged and i have no idea what they're talking about
 
Bedlam

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If you refuse to vote for the Democratic candidate out of vanity, stubbornness and/or hurt feelings, then four more years of Trump are also on you. This is bigger and more important than any particular single cause or individual.
Four more years of Trump will be catastrophic for the planet and US institutions.

Looks like it will be Biden because Bernie simply doesn't have the numbers. Get ready to vote for Biden, flawed as he may be.
 
Midramble

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Oct 25, 2017
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MattyG said:
Good shit OP. Tired of being told that I should be happy with a return to the status quo because "well it's not Trump." We shouldn't have to settle for "just good enough" when "just good enough" only applies to able-bodied cis white people. We can do better, we should be demanding better, and if those demands are loud and angry and make some people upset, then so be it.
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Demands are useless without leverage.
 
LGHT_TRSN

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"Tring to kill them" and you don't see how this isn't useful discourse?

Sick people can also voting for Biden.

Sick people can think Biden stands the best chance of taking the senate and actually passing healthcare reform that will help them and other people.

This idea that anyone who doesn't agree with you 100% are "trying to kill you" is not helpful...at all.
 
Vic Damone Jr.

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Nah man, you being divisive. /s

Shit needs to change before it's too late but people don't realize it cause they're protecting their own interests.
 
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