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Quinton

Quinton

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Ummm there is a new Kung Fu show in the works.
I don't think it's a revival, but The CW is rebooting the property. I'd bet good money they'll try to link it back to the original show.
www.etonline.com/kung-fu-trailer-nicky-shen-battles-bad-guys-exclusive-161806

Aye, didn't know about this. Though I should reiterate, I really did mean a continuation of The Legend Continues, and this seems surface-level unlike that at all. But! You could be right, torre.

I don't like what I've seen of it based on the trailer, but I'm kind of allergic to The CW's formula, anyway. I'll keep an eye on it. Cool that the IP isn't totally gone.

I'm okay with this. Farscape is probably my favorite scifi show of all time but I'm fine with there not being more. If anything I would have liked peacekeeper wars to have a full season instead of what it had but we are way past that now. Something is nice about letting a thing end and it ended well. On top of that I haven't liked much of the extra stuff that has come out after it ended like the comics.

The comics weren't great, yeah. I feel like they tried to go far too "epic" for the limited scope each issue could truly tackle. Some of the storytelling choices were... weird, too, and not in that singularly Farscape definition of weird. Just weird.

I'd feel the same about it ending well if it weren't for the fact that
Rygel's return to his homeworld hadn't occurred yet and Sikozu surviving her tomfoolery. I guess I could also point to how Chiana and Jothee's relationship came across to me as unfinished, with the probable purpose of developing it further during Rygel's attempted revolution.

As regards the show's core, however, I totally agree and I'm damn glad we got that miniseries.
The wormhole MacGuffin came to a satisfying conclusion. The Peacekeeper and Scarran conflicts were (forcefully) resolved a la Crichton. John and Aeryn became parents, earning the happily-ever-after that had been teased from roughly half an hour into the very first episode. Heck, Scorpius found a measure of personal resolution, which, like... only Farscape would torment the cast with somebody for years only to go that route with them. But it works. Because Farscape.

The one thing I will never quite understand: Grayza's role in the miniseries.
I mean. Mostly, it tracks. We're introduced to this Grand Chancellor fellow; he gets weak-kneed near the end; so she kills him and assumes command. All very Grayza. But why is she pregnant? And why am I supposed to care?
I guess it came across to me as the one thing about that two-night, four-hour miniseries that really screamed, "We originally planned for 22 episodes here." lol
 

Keldroc

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One of the first great premier genre TV shows.
Show still stands up today. But HBO does not seem to want to have anything at all to do with it. Never Gave it an ending.

Even though the carnivale side-show misfits are the good guys, they most likely would have to change some things to make it more sensitive for cultural values now.

The creators wanted to finish it as a comic at one point, but HBO won't allow anything to be done with it. Bizarre stuff.

Off, yeah. This didn't age well at all.

Neither did Carolla. He always seemed like a tool but wow.
 

Cruxist

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Oct 27, 2017
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The Mole.

Anderson Cooper has said he gets asked about it all the time but there's no interest from any networks to put it back on the air. It was too good for this world.
 

apathetic

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The comics weren't great, yeah. I feel like they tried to go far too "epic" for the limited scope each issue could truly tackle. Some of the storytelling choices were... weird, too, and not in that singularly Farscape definition of weird. Just weird.

I'd feel the same about it ending well if it weren't for the fact that
Rygel's return to his homeworld hadn't occurred yet and Sikozu surviving her tomfoolery. I guess I could also point to how Chiana and Jothee's relationship came across to me as unfinished, with the probable purpose of developing it further during Rygel's attempted revolution.

As regards the show's core, however, I totally agree and I'm damn glad we got that miniseries.
The wormhole MacGuffin came to a satisfying conclusion. The Peacekeeper and Scarran conflicts were (forcefully) resolved a la Crichton. John and Aeryn became parents, earning the happily-ever-after that had been teased from roughly half an hour into the very first episode. Heck, Scorpius found a measure of personal resolution, which, like... only Farscape would torment the cast with somebody for years only to go that route with them. But it works. Because Farscape.

The one thing I will never quite understand: Grayza's role in the miniseries.
I mean. Mostly, it tracks. We're introduced to this Grand Chancellor fellow; he gets weak-kneed near the end; so she kills him and assumes command. All very Grayza. But why is she pregnant? And why am I supposed to care?
I guess it came across to me as the one thing about that two-night, four-hour miniseries that really screamed, "We originally planned for 22 episodes here." lol

Oh there definitely were loose ends and even other serious threats that had been hinted at for nearly the entire show's run (like the Nebari in general) but I left it satisfied. Show was something special and I feel it's a real shame that it will get left behind/forgotten in general.
 

MisterZimbu

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The Mole.

Anderson Cooper has said he gets asked about it all the time but there's no interest from any networks to put it back on the air. It was too good for this world.

To me the biggest issue with the show was that the overarching game of not getting eliminated came down more or less to luck unless you actually knew who the mole was. I'd want a revival to figure out a way of fixing that.

Still a fantastic show though. Loved the aesthetic of the show in general plus the challenges were great. The escape room game before escape rooms were cool at the end of the first season was incredible.
 
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Quinton

Quinton

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Oh there definitely were loose ends and even other serious threats that had been hinted at for nearly the entire show's run (like the Nebari in general) but I left it satisfied. Show was something special and I feel it's a real shame that it will get left behind/forgotten in general.

Haha, wow, I can't believe I didn't mention the Nebari.

And yeah, same. It's crazy that talks of a continuation and/or reboot have gone on for 14 years to no ultimate avail. Just ain't happening.
 

hikarutilmitt

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Silverhawks. It got lost in the minefield of 80's cartoons made to sell toys (as well as the toys themselves) but there was something about it that was more interesting to me than Thundercats and He-man at the time. Looking at it now, it has aged better than either of those, by a few miles.

To this day I still have an irrational hatred of Michael Ironside because of how awful seaQuest s3 was.
It is truly irrational, too, because he's awesome.
I was going to say Heroes but actually I bet someone will try a second revival of that to go one half-season and cancellation again.
I swear to hell that the show was never handled properly, even in its return. It needed to be an anthology series like AHS (before AHS was even a thing) where each season was a new set of people and the people form previous seasons would maybe show up once in a while to help out and move things along towards a more Avengers/Justice League type of teamup later, time permitting. What we got towards the end was garbage and the revived show (limited series my ass) showed promise then did too many daring things for most people to handle or even want, all while the MCU was still getting used to comic story beats.
Married With Children.

I just don't see any possible way it can be revived without having it be completely stripped of 95% of the jokes that made the show what it was.
This was my answer.

I love the show to death, but its brand of raunchy doesn't work well anymore for a whole host of reasons. Unhappily Ever After was a spiritual successor and was also great with some of the roles flipped a bit, but that's the last we'll see of shows like this. Same reason we'll never (rightfully) see any more Revenge of the Nerds films or will never see that Police Academy reboot come to fruition.
He said this in an interview given during the second season in 1994 or 1995? 21 Jump Street is a 2012 movie.
This has been quoted and corrected a ton, so I'll just leave this.

:)
Came to this thread to say pretty much exactly this.

There's been repeated, repeated attempts to revive the show. Almost constantly.
But it just doesn't get off the ground, and it's getting harder and harder to do any sort of revival now. The premise is harder to sell now in today's political climate - a remake would be almost impossible to pull of, you'd need to have a proper followup season. But ever since Dean Stockwell's stroke, we're missing half of the leading cast.

It's incredibly frustrating. Especially when you learn exactly why the fifth season panned out the way it did. And that the ending they used was most probably not the one they wanted to use.
There was a certain amount of "ahead of its time" for Quantum Leap, no pun intended. It tackled a whole lot more of society and politics and race and gender and sexuality and everything way, way before a lot of people were ready. It's actually incredible relevant TV to watch, even now and very rarely needs a "lens" to look through it being a turn of the 90s show that is now, technically, set 22 years ago.
Captain Power and the Soldiers of the Future.

And it is a deep shame.
I still have some of my Captain Power toys. Granted, there are endless sources of Tokusatsu to watch to scratch some of that itch, since it's heavily based on that particular kind of show, but a proper revival would be great. I'd watch it, for sure!
 

BLEEN

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Came in here for this

Will never be rebooted.
With both the love and hate it got, it's still hugely popular and referenced. It's somehow beloved. I give it less than 10 years before it's back.

I might catch it if it comes back but they should've ended it after season 1 or 3 if I'm giving leeway. Trainwreck. But they would be able to fix many of the issues with a second chance. It could be so much better.

Of all the reboots, that's on the top of the list I'd imagine.
 

MinusTydus

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Hannibal. (Yes, yes, I know. Avatar quote.)

I'm so tired of Bryan Fuller (who is fantastic) and everyone from the cast constantly teasing the "potential" Season Four. I'm over it.

It was beautiful. It could have been amazing if HBO had picked it up. But I can admit: Literally no network or streaming service is remotely interested in resurrecting the series. The rights to the characters are a fucking clusterfuck. It will never happen. I've made my peace with it.
 

WarMacheen

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With both the love and hate it got, it's still hugely popular and referenced. It's somehow beloved. I give it less than 10 years before it's back.

I might catch it if it comes back but they should've ended it after season 1 or 3 if I'm giving leeway. Trainwreck. But they would be able to fix many of the issues with a second chance. It could be so much better.

Of all the reboots, that's on the top of the list I'd imagine.
yeah, I really hope they leave it alone.

Even with its flaws, it was a phenomenom. I don't think they will catch the same magic again.
 

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I enjoyed Kings but I'm pretty sure it was an immense and expensive flop since it never got a season 2.
 

Labyrinthe

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Even if it's still on, i feel The Simpsons won't and can't be rebooted and that's why it's still ongoing forever.
 
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I need it tho.
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A classic that didn't get the love it deserved when it was on the air.

It did get a revival of sorts:

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But it was bland, unfunny, and filled with an annoying cast aside from Lisa Kudrow.


Living Single will never be revived because it will be compared to Friends even though Friends is a complete ripoff.
Fucking this
I've never understood this sentiment. Friends living in the city is such a generic premise I can't see how anyone can call it a rip off.
Because it's a ripoff.
"It was interesting because when Living Single came out, shortly thereafter, Warren Littlefield, who's president of NBC, they asked him if he could have any show on television -- any of the new shows -- which one would it be, and he said Living Single," she shared. "It was in the newspaper. And the next thing you know, here comes Friends."
But it's nothing new. There are many times where creations from POC are ripped off by white people and gets all the praise. From art to Hairstyles to fashion.
 

WillyFive

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's kinda dumbfounding how Disney hasn't brought back Lost considering the ending set up an easy way to continue it with Hurley and Ben in charge.
 

Christo750

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Great News got canceled years ago and it only got 2 seasons and it's such a great 2 seasons. And I am sad it won't get revived at this point.
 

Bio-Frost

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It's you and me, probably. It's great.
Count me in too, love me some Angry bevers. Sadly even nick never seems to use them as much when referencing older shows.
It's even more on the air today than ever, on VH1 lol...

This is how i rediscovered it lmao. Wanted background noise and couldn't find anything so i channel surfed till i saw living single on and thought hey i ised to watch that why not.

Ended up binging the show on hulu soon after! While i doubt it gets made I would love a continuation of it, i want to see how/if Flavor survied magazines dying lol. Plus Overton might be one of my favorite sitcom characters.


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My pick would be perfect strangers. id love for them to try but i dont think it could be rebooted well, the chemistry they had back in the day will be hard to replicate. Plus it might not transition well to a non laugh track formula. I love shows with laugh tracks but i know im in the minority in that.
 

Cruxist

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To me the biggest issue with the show was that the overarching game of not getting eliminated came down more or less to luck unless you actually knew who the mole was. I'd want a revival to figure out a way of fixing that.

Still a fantastic show though. Loved the aesthetic of the show in general plus the challenges were great. The escape room game before escape rooms were cool at the end of the first season was incredible.

I always thought there needed to be some sort of rankings within the challenges. That way if you place first or whatever, you'd actually have to get all of the questions wrong to get kicked off. It would add a layer of mind games to players journals and talking about who they suspect and whatnot.
 

Lord Fanny

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Weird that I kind of vaguely remember Yes, Dear existing, but have no solid memory whatsoever of one second or even one frame of that show. All of these "schlubby, overweight blue collar white dude with a hot wife" mid-2000s sitcoms kind of blur together.

That's not really what Yes, Dear was about. It was two couples living together, and one was more of like the pristine cute couple and the other were both portrayed as sort of like overweight slob freeloaders who were both out of work (at least in the beginning, I forget how the series progressed) and the tension was how their ways of life conflicted and that sort of thing. It was more of like an Odd Couple setup, just with two couples instead of two individuals.

The concept and setup actually had some potential and is sort of unique, actually, but as mentioned, it overall was pretty bland.
 

Flygon

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There was a certain amount of "ahead of its time" for Quantum Leap, no pun intended. It tackled a whole lot more of society and politics and race and gender and sexuality and everything way, way before a lot of people were ready. It's actually incredible relevant TV to watch, even now and very rarely needs a "lens" to look through it being a turn of the 90s show that is now, technically, set 22 years ago.
That's true. I guess my concern with the premise being revisted in 2021 is more of a casting issue - if they did decide to go for a remake, rather than a direct followup.

Casting a lead that has to act for people from well outside their own background, even though that's literally the entire point of the show - to get a perspective of just what a mess the past was for many many different types of people, seems mired in difficulty.
Did the show ever get criticism for being misread as a "White Savior" show back in the day?

I would love an animated followup, though. To work around distinctly pre-80s areas being harder to find and film around now, and to hide the 30 year time gap between seasons.
 

sredgrin

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Lost is totally getting like a miniseries / limited series sometime this decade.
 

hikarutilmitt

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That's true. I guess my concern with the premise being revisted in 2021 is more of a casting issue - if they did decide to go for a remake, rather than a direct followup.

Casting a lead that has to act for people from well outside their own background, even though that's literally the entire point of the show - to get a perspective of just what a mess the past was for many many different types of people, seems mired in difficulty.
Did the show ever get criticism for being misread as a "White Savior" show back in the day?

I would love an animated followup, though. To work around distinctly pre-80s areas being harder to find and film around now, and to hide the 30 year time gap between seasons.
I'm not sure that people really talked about white savior tropes much at the time but I'm sure some do it now.

I think my concern about doing a new QL is that they struck a certain balance of being political and socially forward without hitting you over the head with it and pushing away some of the viewers and there's a certain lack of subtlety missing in a lot of writing these days, especially around many of these topics.

Thinking about it the only topics they didn't really hit on were trans people and gender identity, which is probably due to a lack of discussion at the time.
 

ConfusingJazz

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Unfortunately, the Moon Bloodgood/Kevin McKidd timetraveling smash hit (in my heart), Journeyman will never be remade.