Teamfight Tactics |OT| Six assassins and three yordles walk into a bar... (Set 7.5 Out Now)

pronk · Aug 13, 2020

Is there a resource anywhere which lists which units are tanks/melee DPD/ranged dps etc?

I see that mentioned a lot around positioning but I don't know how to tell what type a unit is. Usually i just put the beefy looking dudes at the front and Ashe and laser squid at the back.

(also is there no era league OT?! or a general era riotverse OT/discord? Or an era autochess OT/discord?is autochess not cool any more :'( )

BananasWithGuns · Aug 13, 2020

pronk said:
Is there a resource anywhere which lists which units are tanks/melee DPD/ranged dps etc?

I see that mentioned a lot around positioning but I don't know how to tell what type a unit is. Usually i just put the beefy looking dudes at the front and Ashe and laser squid at the back.

(also is there no era league OT?! or a general era riotverse OT/discord? Or an era autochess OT/discord?is autochess not cool any more :'( )

You can maybe look through this to get a better idea of what each champion does.

https://tftactics.gg/champions

For the most part, a champion's class determines their role. Vanguards, Protector and Brawlers are your frontline. Blasters, Sorcerers and Snipers are your backline DPS. Blademasters and Infiltrators fill the melee DPS slot. Some champions are a little unique within their class though. Like Graves is a close range Blaster and Xayah is a ranged Blademaster so there are some outliers that you just learn through playing. In the end though, a champion's class is going to typically be the most important determining factor in where a unit is placed.

pronk · Aug 13, 2020

BananasWithGuns said:
You can maybe look through this to get a better idea of what each champion does.

https://tftactics.gg/champions

For the most part, a champion's class determines their role. Vanguards, Protector and Brawlers are your frontline. Blasters, Sorcerers and Snipers are your backline DPS. Blademasters and Infiltrators fill the melee DPS slot. Some champions are a little unique within their class though. Like Graves is a close range Blaster and Xayah is a ranged Blademaster so there are some outliers that you just learn through playing. In the end though, a champion's class is going to typically be the most important determining factor in where a unit is placed.

Thanks, I was a bit confused by Graves but if most of the classes fit their role I guess that makes it easier.

pronk · Aug 13, 2020

How did I manage to come third with 4 three star units?

I'm bad at TFT

Poodlestrike · Aug 27, 2020

TFT Fates: Mechanic and Origins - League of Legends

A first look at the new Fates mechanic and a few new Origins.

na.leagueoflegends.com

First look at the new set - going back to a fantasy theme for this one.

BananasWithGuns · Aug 31, 2020

Here's the cheat sheet for the new set. Goes live on PBE tomorrow but I think I'll probably just wait until the official release.

Bob White · Aug 31, 2020

BananasWithGuns · Aug 31, 2020

The 5 costs for Fates seem absolutely bonkers. I mean...look at Yone's ability lol.

Yone strikes along a path in front of him, dealing magic damage split between all enemies hit and knocking them up for 2 seconds. Enemies hit are marked for death, reducing their Armor and Magic Resist by 60%. Yone's spell is then replaced with Unforgotten until there are no remaining enemies marked for death. Unforgotten (20 mana): Yone dashes to the lowest health enemy that is marked for death, killing them instantly.

BananasWithGuns · Sep 6, 2020

Couldn't help myself and downloaded PBE. Maybe it's just the honeymoon phase and people still figuring stuff out but after playing four games this set seems amazing. It seems way more about actually building out comps as opposed to everyone fighting over the same handful of broken units. I was worried about the Chosen mechanic but it's actually the best thing they've done so far in my opinion. I'm sure people will figure out the more broken stuff as time goes on but right now this is setting up to be my favorite set by an extremely large margin.

Edit: Three wins in a row, all of them with different origins/classes. I love this set.

Carthago Delenda Est · Sep 6, 2020

Definitely honeymoon phase but I am hoping the chosen mechanic might sometimes make off-meta builds viable. Sounds promising. Glad you're enjoying it.

Poodlestrike · Sep 6, 2020

I think the Chosen thing is going to put a lot of power into champs and comps that would normally lack it, which on one hand is going to go a ways to making it harder for any given game to follow the meta... but also, when you get the perfect Chosen for a strong comp, it could decide games all by itself. Randomness like that is a tricky thing to balance around.

BananasWithGuns · Sep 7, 2020

Poodlestrike said:
I think the Chosen thing is going to put a lot of power into champs and comps that would normally lack it, which on one hand is going to go a ways to making it harder for any given game to follow the meta... but also, when you get the perfect Chosen for a strong comp, it could decide games all by itself. Randomness like that is a tricky thing to balance around.

Yeah, there are definitely going to be times where hitting a decent Chosen is going to rocket you into Top 4 or higher almost automatically. I've already seen a few Chosen Zeds and it gets out of control pretty quick. It also makes spatulas so much more valuable too since it becomes much easier to hit the highest bonus on certain traits if you hit the Chosen on them.

Poodlestrike · Sep 15, 2020

Set 4 launch trailer! V. cute.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 15, 2020

when is set 4 official official? later today?

BananasWithGuns · Sep 15, 2020

Prototype Viktor said:
when is set 4 official official? later today?

Not sure of exact timing but apparently it's already live in Oceania. I assume sometime tomorrow morning for NA.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 15, 2020

BananasWithGuns said:
Not sure of exact timing but apparently it's already live in Oceania. I assume sometime tomorrow morning for NA.

k k

it looks like it'll break up the nonsense that was 6 vanguards i was running into too often

Euler · Sep 16, 2020

New set seems pretty exciting. Gonna be fun with something fresh.

Cyclonesweep · Sep 16, 2020

Euler said:
New set seems pretty exciting. Gonna be fun with something fresh.

Cant wait. Old set was definitely getting stale.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

1 1/2 hours til patch it seems

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

won 1st game using 8 brawlers double Sett 1 with ability can crit item the other with IE + last whisper. Nunu and Mao doing the dirty work of lowering hp. i had 8 melee 1 ranged (lulu) lol. 2 keepers to do some light work b/c i couldn't really fit anything else in. had 60 hp at the end

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

ok, NOT havint a special unit seems to mean you can't get 1st place, i did a almost entire run without one and only could get 3rd, the lack of hitting more bonuses prevent me from even coming close to the guy running full assasins and a few cultist

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

it's too hard to recreate my brawler win, i played 5 more game since and getting brawler to show up when other aren't going it just wasn't happening

Carthago Delenda Est · Sep 16, 2020

Won my first game with mages. Had no idea what was happening. Wife won with cultists.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

ppl going heavy cultist day one

Prototype Viktor · Sep 16, 2020

finally got my brawler build going...could only get 2nd b/c i didn't have a Sett so i tried to 3 hunter with special and 2 divine with WW with rageblade. lost b/c cc proof Eve with 2nd tier cultist lasted too long before my ramp up damage with my Ashe and didn't have a sword to get IE

cultist has to get nerfed first

BananasWithGuns · Sep 16, 2020

Yes, Cultist is pretty busted right now. It'll probably be hit in the first patch.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

BananasWithGuns said:
Yes, Cultist is pretty busted right now. It'll probably be hit in the first patch.

i don't even see a honest way of being it outside of sheer luck of items + divine maybe?

Euler · Sep 17, 2020

Prototype Viktor said:
i don't even see a honest way of being it outside of sheer luck of items + divine maybe?

I beat a couple cultists right now with a duelist comp centered around Chosen Yasuo. The lifesteal he gets off of Exile second level bonus is so immense he can just kinda kill them even if he's alone against 3 units in the end.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

Euler said:
I beat a couple cultists right now with a duelist comp centered around Chosen Yasuo. The lifesteal he gets off of Exile second level bonus is so immense he can just kinda kill them even if he's alone against 3 units in the end.

i've been avoiding duelist thinking it was too weak might try it. been having terrible chosen luck to stuff i don't wanna pivot to or just can change directions
i also refuse to go cultist ever

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

ok i just got hit with a Duelist comp with Chosen Yasou and Kindred with duelist trait...that attack speed is insane

wtf if i don't take the opening Chosen i don't get one later in the game to pop up, this has happened to me like 3 games now. like post level 5 that's a fat chance i'd get one anyone to pop

BananasWithGuns · Sep 17, 2020

Yeah, Chosen Yasuo Duelist comp is super strong if you can also keep Kalista safe. I haven't tried it since they nerfed Yasuo on PBE though. Added bonus that Lee Sin can wreck Galio too.

I think 8 Brawler also probably matches up pretty well against Cultist if you can get good items on Sett and Nunu.

I've also heard Zed is a decent counter to it as well since once he starts stealing Galio's attack damage he becomes unstoppable. He's also just crazy strong on his own anyway so you don't lose much by taking him.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

brawlers don't work at all to get 1st place if you don't get Sett outside of luck on Nunu/WW doing some damage. 6 bonus sett coming back in is usually clean up damage for the win

my main problem with Galio is his almost 4k hp at 2 star which is just damage soaking b/c he gets targeted over others most the time

BananasWithGuns · Sep 17, 2020

Prototype Viktor said:
brawlers don't work at all to get 1st place if you don't get Sett outside of luck on Nunu/WW doing some damage. 6 bonus sett coming back in is usually clean up damage for the win

my main problem with Galio is his almost 4k hp at 2 star which is just damage soaking b/c he gets targeted over others most the time

Sharpshooter may be the way to go then. Hunter to a lesser extent as well. Only issue you run into is Jhin is going to be contested and you'll need him to be your carry.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

i was MOLLYWOOPING everyone, til the other person figured out how to keep Lillia/Ez safe to use that stupid AOE stun and i got murdercized with my 7 duelist, i kinda fucked up by making a 3 star Kalista rather than keeping two 2 stars with full items just to make the 8th when i had 10 units on board

Prototype Viktor · Sep 17, 2020

BananasWithGuns said:
Sharpshooter may be the way to go then. Hunter to a lesser extent as well. Only issue you run into is Jhin is going to be contested and you'll need him to be your carry.

without a natural attack speed buff option for others i avoid Sharpshooters if i can't get rageblade b/c otherwise you gotta do dusk or dazzler if anyone does even a little bit of assassin or shade

Prototype Viktor · Sep 18, 2020

had a near purfect 8 duelist set up. got destroyed by a Chosen Katrina with can crit, IE + rabadon's for the fastest 9k damage rounds and 6 warlords with Garen with 2 Titan's Resolve's + Gargoyle Stoneplate + damage reduction from spin the damage sponge and 1 star jinx for cc

tho i did have a hilarious 1 star Sett with duelist trait

Poodlestrike · Sep 18, 2020

I had a 6-Assassin comp thanks to Chosen Akali and all items on Talon and still lost. Damn cultists.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 18, 2020

Tried something new with 6 Divine 6 duelist with Kalista divine. It almost worked but 2 people went mages. And I was waiting for a rageblade for Kalista before switching to 8 divine

Was burning through the cultist and brawler builds tho

Prototype Viktor · Sep 18, 2020

Poodlestrike said:
I had a 6-Assassin comp thanks to Chosen Akali and all items on Talon and still lost. Damn cultists.

If the top 3 aren't mostly ranged people I abandon assassin's quick no matter how much talon can Shaco

Prototype Viktor · Sep 19, 2020

Man had a great Vanguard team at 92 hp then 1 person gets a Kalista set up with anti armor and I go down to 0 before they went from 30 to 15

Prototype Viktor · Sep 19, 2020

Am I just misinformated but I thought you couldn't get 2 chosen of the same trait. Me and someone else got liss dazzler and 2 people got 6 cultist from the same hero and cultist

Poodlestrike · Sep 19, 2020

Prototype Viktor said:
Am I just misinformated but I thought you couldn't get 2 chosen of the same trait. Me and someone else got liss dazzler and 2 people got 6 cultist from the same hero and cultist

Two different players can get the same chosen, I think.

pronk · Sep 19, 2020

I'm terrible at this but the new set is great. I've been trying to just build a team around the chosen I get and it makes me think about how to build a team instead of just doing star guardians every time (sorry).

Prototype Viktor · Sep 19, 2020

Poodlestrike said:
Two different players can get the same chosen, I think.

hmm ok, i was giving up trying to get certain chosen when i saw someone else had them at times thinking it was like the old Elementalist Lux

RNG is also trash at times i went a game where not a single Yasou popped up til 5-1 and no one else was running duelist

BananasWithGuns · Sep 19, 2020

Ashe is lowkey busted, I'm seeing more people pick up on that too. Probably has a lot to do with Elderwood being a tad too strong as well but I definitely think Ashe got a little over buffed. Just make sure you put Bloodthirster on her.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 19, 2020

BananasWithGuns said:
Ashe is lowkey busted, I'm seeing more people pick up on that too. Probably has a lot to do with Elderwood being a tad too strong as well but I definitely think Ashe got a little over buffed. Just make sure you put Bloodthirster on her.

Bt, IE, and the attack damage on kill increase one maybe. Or a defensive item. But got to worry about the rageblade jinx, assassin's or Lillia carry

dimb · Sep 20, 2020

Really good first impression and base for the set, it feels like, although I think the barrier to entry is higher with how obtuse the theme is to match to characters. Even as someone with lots of League experience some of the portraits are just head scratchers or I forget. The color on something like Aatrox doesn't even feel like it changes when he's on the board because the portrait is just this grey undefined face.

The carry options feel a little limited right now when Duelist/Hunter/Sharpshooter are kind of attack speed focused, and even subcatagories like Spirit play into this. Feels like the Dazzler effect could stand to be changed, because the bonus is really bad at stopping the damage that comes out right now, and it drags down the potential of characters like Ezreal and Morgana. Only thing that really stands out is how underwhelming Mage synergy is, particularly the 6 of effect.

Prototype Viktor · Sep 20, 2020

dimb said:
Really good first impression and base for the set, it feels like, although I think the barrier to entry is higher with how obtuse the theme is to match to characters. Even as someone with lots of League experience some of the portraits are just head scratchers or I forget. The color on something like Aatrox doesn't even feel like it changes when he's on the board because the portrait is just this grey undefined face.

The carry options feel a little limited right now when Duelist/Hunter/Sharpshooter are kind of attack speed focused, and even subcatagories like Spirit play into this. Feels like the Dazzler effect could stand to be changed, because the bonus is really bad at stopping the damage that comes out right now, and it drags down the potential of characters like Ezreal and Morgana. Only thing that really stands out is how underwhelming Mage synergy is, particularly the 6 of effect.

Every 6 bonus can beat mage 6 easy except brawler because you can slow them down enough. But if they reach the back line you lose

BananasWithGuns · Sep 20, 2020

So if you get offered a Chosen Zed and have decent items for him I recommend trying this build out. Guardian Angel is required for Ahri to make it work but man, once you get the pieces in place it's something to see. Even 3-Star Ahri aside Zed just goes to town after the Spirits cast. I ended on a 10 round win streak and maybe only one of them was even close.

Poodlestrike · Sep 20, 2020

Goddamn algorithm keeps giving me Duelist chosen and multiple Duelists per roll and I tear things up and then fall over dead in 3rd place, over and over.

BananasWithGuns said:
So if you get offered a Chosen Zed and have decent items for him I recommend trying this build out. Guardian Angel is required for Ahri to make it work but man, once you get the pieces in place it's something to see. Even 3-Star Ahri aside Zed just goes to town after the Spirits cast. I ended on a 10 round win streak and maybe only one of them was even close.

I've tried Spirits/Duelists but Duelists just require too many slots.

Teamfight Tactics |OT| Six assassins and three yordles walk into a bar... (Set 7.5 Out Now)

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