Those are dubs, not the same thing at all. But sure they should make an effort to have diverse casting in general. Since it's a dub you can cast black, asian, latino, Pacific islander, native American, etc. actors all in the same dub with no issues. But no, those dubs are overwhelmingly white because white is considered the default in our society.
When this was talked about months ago people acted like it was the VA's fault for not walking when it's actually more complicated if she signed a contract to portray the character. And yes I agree with you that it's mostly ND's fault.
This has literally nothing to do with you or other Naughty Dog fans. Your attachment to this studio has given you a persecution complex. This is about representation and opportunities for minority actors playing minority characters. Stop inserting yourself, you don't matter in this conversation.
She originally was white and retconned later. They probably just shouldn't have done that retcon.
one example does not excuse his point. Read into it what you will.
As far as I can find out, white people and black people from South Africa do not speak with the same accent, so uhhLaura Bailey said:
And ND addressed that failure with TLOU2's casting when they could have easily doubled down.
I was literally going to quote that post and mention Phil myself. He voices a ton of roles across multiple media and projects of a variety of races. Hell the cast of Futurama typically play a few dozen characters at different points, the sole exception is Katey Sagal who only ever voices Leela.
I'm not trying to be rude but I legitimately don't even know where to begin unpacking this. Because clearly you know enough to know who was cast as that character, but you didn't pick up on that character being a boy. Your hope for the future is nice, but that future can't happen if people aren't educated enough about the things they're trying to speak on.
No she wanted to but didn't pan out and then character got cut anyway due to not adding anything to the scene she'd be in.
That is always going to happen, but the point remains that ND is held accountable on this site as they were on the old site. Regardless of how much some holds this site up in high regards to progressivism there is always going to be outliers. Also, don't count out people who just use polls to troll with. As sad as that is for such topics as this.
But again, Chloe is an existing and established character, who had absolutely no reference to being Indian for 8 years. It is categorically a different thing than them hiring a white woman to voice a character who they end up making black.
If Laura signed a contract and she walked she could open herself up to breach of contract lawsuit and other legal actions. I'm sure she would have survived financially but entangling yourself that way is not good for anyone, even a celebrity VA.
When you see fragile shitposts like this, the poll makes perfect sense.
It's still having a white actor voice a non-white character. Chloe doesn't somehow get 'grandfathered in'. Either recast the role or don't retcon the race of the character. The end result was still a game starring two non-white women voiced by two white women.
Is she Indian? cant remember exactly but i think she is mixed with white, believe her mother is white and father Indian or the other way around.
It's Naughty Dog's fault, period. Why all this pointless hand-wringing about "hate"? Report actual hateful posts but don't do this thing where you worry over this "hate" bogeyman that does not really seem to be happening in here. It's simply a distraction.
How is it disingenuous? He's referencing perhaps the most well known type of systemic violence in US history as a source of inspiration and made a game all about personal grudges and vendettas. I feel he missed the forest for the trees from a thematic standpoint. Most violence in real life isn't driven by personal quests for revenge, it's a byproduct of larger systems and political structures.
VA is usually accomplished well before the finalization of game elements and casting would be done even earlier.
I knew the character was a trans which is why I said the character should of been voiced by someone who's a trans man or woman at the very least.(which I found out later is voiced by a transman) Because i got some verbage mixed up doesnt make my point any less valid or "uneducated"
