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Tara Reade appears to have lied under oath about her education, defense lawyers seek to get convictions overturned in cases where she testified
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I mean that's the point cripple her credibility on the sexual assault allegations to make Biden look better. Even if she is telling the truth about that which I think she is it casts doubt over the whole thing.
You'd feel bad for someone who manipulated and lied and endangered the livelihood of the people who are directly affected by her testimony? Because of her, a bunch of violent domestic offenders could have their convictions overturned?
She's a fucking liar. Pure and simple.
Why would the "where there's smoke, there's fire" analogy apply to Biden at the faintest whiff of there being something off, but this woman's credibility has seen a constant barrage of proven bullshit and people are still like "Well, I guess she's a liar and not trustworthy, but dang I feel sorry for her..."
Is this not the same woman who scrubbed her pro-Putin/Russia piece when it came to light?
There's not just smoke coming from this woman's camp, it's a goddamn tire fire.
This.
Also important to recognize that an almost totality of sexual assault victims don't have a history of committing perjury. This is different than when they go the "he/she's no angel route" with sordid relationship gossip, sexual history, or even drug and alcohol use.
A complicated life and conflicting accounts muddle efforts to understand Tara Reade's allegation against Joe Biden
As Tara Reade was leaving her job at Joe Biden's Senate office in 1993, she told a close colleague that she believed she was being let go for an unfair reason -- that she was being terminated because of a medical issue she had been dealing with.www.cnn.com
Wow.
Yeah, I know a big spotlight gets put on people who come forward and influential people can basically manufacture dirt but it's pretty hard to believe her now.
Wow. I just can't get over your last sentence. It's like you have no idea how the court system works and how important it is to not lie under oath, but you just hand waived it all away like it's nothing.
Holy shit at this post. Just total disregard for the victims who would be affected by this and downplaying the severity of perjury.
the other 20 women that could have their abusers released be damned
Agreed.
People should take a second and wait before casting judgment.
Does it seem to you like they're saying what it seems to me? Cuz holy shit.
Media Relations | Antioch Seattle
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CNN did go to the right media relations person at Antioch University Seattle, Karen Hamilton.
And I would suspect the Antioch University person who told CNN off-record "there's never been such a program" was high enough up to know.
Anyway, some super-secret degree that you have to call the Chancellor to verify doesn't seem like it'd be worth much when applying for a job. You'd think something like this would come up when any company tried to do a background check and she would have fixed it at that point.
Reade also should be able to produce a legitimate diploma from the school even if there was some sort of paperwork fuck-up. You'd think that would come before the law school transcript.
Please, please don't let this be true - both for her, and also the people whose cases she was involved in with/via these credentials.
people should have done that from the start.......or is that taboo to say these days. I can't keep up with these discussions.
yep and it can go many ways. There could have been innocents locked up for years on her testimony and there can be abusers released due to her being a key part of the conviction.
Seattle University isn't normally the sort of institution that would let you bullshit your way into their program. SU should have some record of the transcripts or at least collaborate the unofficial credential info that Reade's team provided.
And honestly, did the paper ask Reade about this before going to press? If not why the hell not? And would they not ask Seattle University too since her law degree was built on the bachelors from Antioch?
And honestly, did the paper ask Reade about this before going to press? If not why the hell not? And would they not ask Seattle University too since her law degree was built on the bachelors from Antioch?
There logically cannot be a secret degree. If a university is contacted for the purpose of validating a claimed degree -- and they say no degree was given -- then what is the value of having gotten an unverifiable degree?
That doesn't make any sense. If you want to say you have a degree -- without needing it to be verifiable -- why would you waste all that time and money going to college when you could just say you have a degree without the time and monetary expense?
An unverifiable degree is worthless.
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If confirmed definitively, this is the kind of shit that hurts everyone the most. While we may never prove/disprove her claims, she's convincingly appearing to be an all-around untrustworthy person in her personal and professional life. At this point how anyone can take her seriously is beyond me.
If confirmed definitively, this is the kind of shit that hurts everyone the most. While we may never prove/disprove her claims, she's convincingly appearing to be an all-around untrustworthy person in her personal and professional life. At this point how anyone can take her seriously is beyond me.
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A complicated life and conflicting accounts muddle efforts to understand Tara Reade's allegation against Joe Biden
As Tara Reade was leaving her job at Joe Biden's Senate office in 1993, she told a close colleague that she believed she was being let go for an unfair reason -- that she was being terminated because of a medical issue she had been dealing with.
Yea, that does not look good for her at all.
She says she has got a degree under a protected program and was a visiting professor there, but the college denies both? yea...
CNN asked Reade. She said she got a secret degree under the chancellor.
This post is embarrassing. An expert witness lying about their credentials even in a small way is a very big deal, people go to prison for life based on expert testimony. She is also a laywer and knows how important taking an oath is.
Yup.
Let's not pretend this is anywhere near the normal case of sexual assault accusations, because there's an immense difference between kitchen sink misdemeanors and ""immorality"" and Damn perjury
Can a person under investigation / condemned for perjury even testify in trials?
And she provided an unofficial transcript from Seattle University.
Seriously? Are people so dead set on believing alleged victims that all new information is processed through the lens of how it strengthens the merits of their accusation? What could be said or done to convince you she's lying?
You have no credibility if you willingly lie about something that can fuck over other people's lives for your personal gain.
Is the chancellor still alive or active with the university?
A "secret degree" where they can still verify you attended and worked in an administrative capacity. Lot of protection that "secret degree" is giving you.
A complicated life and conflicting accounts muddle efforts to understand Tara Reade's allegation against Joe Biden
As Tara Reade was leaving her job at Joe Biden's Senate office in 1993, she told a close colleague that she believed she was being let go for an unfair reason -- that she was being terminated because of a medical issue she had been dealing with.
Thanks.
This whole thing is such a mess.
Thanks. Cause I may have taken her side for a long while, but this was never about her specifically, as much as it was about a lot of the early bullshit directed at her. Regardless of whether or not any of her story ends up being true in the end, a lot of people were all too quick to dismiss her accusations, for reasons that I still feel were mainly political. And that's wrong, and I wanted to make a clear stance against the bullshit double standard that we should only believe women until it becomes inconvenient to our own causes. Not every woman is telling the truth, but EVERY woman deserves to have their voice heard. That's what #BelieveWomen is actually about, and Tara turning out to be a pathological liar doesn't change that one iota.
That was my mistake, I heard this story a while ago and didn't remember it right.
Women do have to flee from abusive SOs, by the way. And sometimes they have to change their identities and routines to keep themselves safe.
Not familiar with secret degrees - what are them and why would someone want a secret degree? I tried googling it but I'm not getting any results.
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So we're going to roll with gaslighting about her lying of educational records to downplay Biden.
Yay for whataboutism from pragmatic centrists!
Yay for whataboutism from pragmatic centrists!
By now it is completely reasonable to question her credibility.
domestic violence cases are going to be reopened cause of this and all you can do is say that?
No, she retired. Someone needs to contact her though and find out if she was running anything on the side.