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Talk shit, get hit...by Mike Tyson
- Thread starter Dalek
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And I think some people on here don't want people reacting to harassment like this because they'd be worried about getting hit all the time.
I Wil always cheer black people preserving their peace. period. no exceptions.
You know...throughout the course of following this discussion, and hell even just being a mod on this site, it's not lost on me that most of the people advocating for the white dumbass to have free reign with his words tend to be people who are very violent with their language themselves.
Because Black people (I'm going to say minorities in general here) do have a "spicy" command of the English language. However, we're also raised with the understanding of "those are fighting words" and we govern ourselves accordingly, and we employ language accordingly. It's consequences that so many of y'all are trying to run away from. The simple notion of consequences.
Because I don't even have to do any searching of post histories or any shit like that. I can just look in THIS thread and see that a lot of the people who are upset at Mike Tyson here, also tend to default to very flippant and violent language themselves. And it seems like what you're responding to here is not just Mike Tyson, but the very idea that someone could take umbrage with your words, and proceed to knock your shit back. And that there could be a room full of people watching you get your shit knocked back, and the general consensus be "...friend, you had that ass whoopin coming."
WELP, that's the world we live in. Watch how the fuck you talk to people. Because Mike Tyson ain't getting nothing from me for this but a beer, a pat on the back, and a "nigga, I get it." And I ain't ashamed of that. Sorry.
And as an aside...you white folks LOVEstealing adopting AAVE, and applying it wantonly in your own discourse. In the last year, I've never heard so many white folks say "fuck around and find out" with their whole chest.
Well, what the fuck do you think the "and find out" means?
Because Black people (I'm going to say minorities in general here) do have a "spicy" command of the English language. However, we're also raised with the understanding of "those are fighting words" and we govern ourselves accordingly, and we employ language accordingly. It's consequences that so many of y'all are trying to run away from. The simple notion of consequences.
Because I don't even have to do any searching of post histories or any shit like that. I can just look in THIS thread and see that a lot of the people who are upset at Mike Tyson here, also tend to default to very flippant and violent language themselves. And it seems like what you're responding to here is not just Mike Tyson, but the very idea that someone could take umbrage with your words, and proceed to knock your shit back. And that there could be a room full of people watching you get your shit knocked back, and the general consensus be "...friend, you had that ass whoopin coming."
WELP, that's the world we live in. Watch how the fuck you talk to people. Because Mike Tyson ain't getting nothing from me for this but a beer, a pat on the back, and a "nigga, I get it." And I ain't ashamed of that. Sorry.
And as an aside...you white folks LOVE
Well, what the fuck do you think the "and find out" means?
I don't think white people can handle this orbital drop of facts, just sayin' lol
What in the everlasting, everloving fuck is this shit? I guess my two kids have been beaten to death then! Wow, this is possibly the most nutso post I've personally seen on this place so far this year.
I can't really get on board with the idea that its okay to just repeatedly punch someone in the head because they're being annoying but never would have happened if the flight crew had done their damn job instead of letting him bounce around like a four year old clearly irritating other passengers.
Some idiot badgering and clearly irritating a famous boxer, what could go wrong?
Some idiot badgering and clearly irritating a famous boxer, what could go wrong?
When/if I have children, I hope they take to heart the lessons I give. One of them will be to not harass random people and expect them to be cordial with you.
And when/if they get bopped back, I'll repeat the lesson as they clearly did not listen in the first place.
Tyson will likely get his own consequences for his action. Are they justified? Probably. But you also have to remember that you cannot just expect every random person to react the same way.
And when/if they get bopped back, I'll repeat the lesson as they clearly did not listen in the first place.
Tyson will likely get his own consequences for his action. Are they justified? Probably. But you also have to remember that you cannot just expect every random person to react the same way.
Did your ass just equate a drunk to a newborn baby? "Won't someone think of this children! Where are my pearls?!"
I plan to teach my children not to be drunk assholes unless they're willing to except the consequences of their actions.
People are fucking weird.
What a shit post. Jesus, some of y'all really are special.
LMFAO i hope this is satire but either way this is fucking gold
if this is real, people like this existing makes me feel great about my chances in a dog-eat-dog world when it comes to work loooooool
this is one of the most outrageous posts I've ever seen on any internet board
What is it that you folks don't understand?!?! These were two grown ass men, one of which was drunk. This wasnt a child or a small woman doing this to tyson. This was a grown ass man and lets not gloss over the racial dynamic either.
Stop comparing apples and oranges here. The amount of folks who think people should just accept being harassed is SHOCKING.
And btw, since you want to switch out this man with a woman, then so will I. Imagine Mike Tyson was a younger female being harrassed by a drunken man. She should just take it and not punch the dude in the face?
As a father of two, one being a daughter, you BET YOUR ASS I am raising my daughter to not start shit but she BETTER defend herself even if that means physically. The folks here who are condemning the use of physical response when being harrassed or having something thrown at them is disgusting.
I get wanting to avoid getting into fights. But it's a real sheltered take to think that it's so out of the ordinary for people to get mad and even violent if you harass them. It'd be different if this was like a child or an elderly person, but if it's just some ordinary adult man messing with you. Like yeah he should've known better.
Edit: I also don't know why the race of the belligerent drunk guy matters? A lot of comments seem to be focusing on that like it means something in this case?
Edit: I also don't know why the race of the belligerent drunk guy matters? A lot of comments seem to be focusing on that like it means something in this case?
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We literally have posters who are black explaining the racial dynamics...how about you read their posts...
You can disagree. But don't act like you can't even understand why it would matter to other Black people.
Don't do it.
The guy was being an asshole, no doubt, and definitely crossed a line by throwing a water bottle. Tyson should have reported it to the flight crew and had him kicked off instead.
If I were in his shoes, it would have been way more satisfying to see him removed from the flight.
I understand his reaction, I just think he should have handled it differently.
If I were in his shoes, it would have been way more satisfying to see him removed from the flight.
I understand his reaction, I just think he should have handled it differently.
Was thinking this exact same thing. I probably shouldn't be surprised, but I am.
Sorry if not liking violence unless it's absolutely necessary is disgusting... i even clearly said sometime you have to use it! If someone throws a water bottle at me, i'm still far away, i'm not in danger, i don't go to their face where i could be in even more danger to punch them, i certainyl wouldn't recommend a woman to do that, it's a terrible idea... I'm not saying they should just take it, but there's other ways in that situations, like calling the plane crew and throwing that shit out of the plane! Doing that isn't taking it, it's taking action against it too
And if you read my post, i don't blame tyson or people wanting to punch little shits like that, i don't defend this harasser at any point, sometime you lose self-control and it's fine, everyone has different circumstances and limit!! UNderstanding it doesn't mean agreeing with it, it doesn't have to be one or the other
All i'm saying is i don't like when these kind of response are celebrated like it should always be the default reaction... That encourage it as being the norm and anyone could then do it for any reasons
Like i'm sure everyone would be angry (and for good reason, i would be too) if a GOP politician suddenly started punching a guy that came up in his face to shit on his terribles policies and annoy him while he's just outside doing private stuff! I'm even sure people would call him a baby for reponding with violence to having a water bottle thrown at him..
You know like how they throw water bottles at police during protest and that's good enough reason for them to beat the shit out of you, which is obviously terrible and nobody in their right mind would defend that
Yes seeing tyson punch this littlte shit is satisfying, it's funny, i get that, truly! Doesn't mean i want to celebrate it and support it. I've been subject to bullying as a kid and that's the main reason i don't like violence.. I rather avoid it at all cost! If that makes me digusting then i don't know what to say
Violence against Black people is the norm. You even use examples of it in your post. That's how normalized this is. That even in your examples that are supposed to be "extreme" or whatever, are just my lived experience. A GOP senator doesn't have to go punch people. They're doing that through legislation and people like you would defend physical escalation of their fascist actions because you don't want to be confronted with that reality,
Too many of y'all think violence is only physical.
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Most of the rhetoric condoning it makes me think I don't belong here.
These are very different situations. Would you be okay with someone punching a GOP politician because of his policies that actively inflict violence on marginalized communities?
Even though state violence is completely different from other forms of violence, police will always claim to have reasons to beat the shit out of people.
I was subject to bullying and I was a bully. Sometimes the only way to stop a bully is to use violence. It sucks, it really does. I wish things could end without violence but that's not reality.
You know, I've often thought about making a thread on how AAVE drives American Culture, World culture, entertainment, politics, all the way to the FGC - and how much of this world owes it's 'flavor' to AAVE.
I'm not sure this board would survive said thread
I am stressed and tired just reading this post, can't imagine the thread
No joke - a friend of mine once said "bodied" is the funniest term created by the FGC.
I'm white as sour cream and even I was like "about that…".
On-topic: I can understand why people want to apply ideals across a broad spectrum, the issue comes from how this only serves to hand-wave away past transgressions and apply a "blank slate", as if there aren't still consequences at play from the former.
I had a coworker who wasn't sure why I was happy about a news story regarding South African land being redistributed from colonist families a few years back because "well THEY (i.e the latest generation) didn't commit any crimes against POC". Problem is they still reap the benefits of it, and the POC have to bear the consequences if changes are not made to help even it all out.
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And most of the rhetoric condemning a man for defending himself from harassment and assault disgusts me.
I shook my head when Empire was talking about how one of there members created the term Salty. Like I heard that since around middle/high school in the late 90s
I've got two days off.
Make the thread, and let some motherfuckas try it.
One day we need to have a sociological discussion on what the state's monopoly on violence and leveraged christian propaganda by the powers that be has done to people and warped their worldview like here. Do you think anything would happen to the GOP politician in your example? Serious answer.
Because in my world:
Republican candidate charged with assault after 'body-slamming' Guardian reporter
Audio of Greg Gianforte attacking Ben Jacobs corroborated by Fox News journalists in the room, who described candidate ‘slamming him to the ground’
www.theguardian.com
Damn, dude's gonna get punished! Jailtime baby! A fucking international reporter, his fucking career is over! Done! Disgrace! Won't even be able to get a regular job with that kind of egregious unprovoked act.
Greg Gianforte flips Montana governorship to Republicans
Gianforte, currently Montana’s lone US House member, defeated Lt. Gov. Mike Cooney.
www.vox.com
It's depressing to be on site that would watch me get harrased and murdered but keep it moving because "civility". Many of you think you're making the moral choice, but you're not. Its actually the evil one. Privileged as a motherfucker.
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I'm designing a composition class centering Black English. Would love to see this thread.
this is my favorite post of yours in quite some time, and I have many favorites over quite an expanse of time.
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I remember some of the responses like this being fairly common on Reddit when I used to use it around 2010-2012. Just this major objection to any type of physical response to harassment.
Which makes sense since Reddit was extremely white and sheltered audience at the time (maybe still is? I haven't used it in years). It was fairly anti-black too when situations like this would prop up. Some white prick would hurl insults at a black person, often using racial insults but if the black person responds with a fist. Well Reddit would always defend the antagonizer.
Which makes sense since Reddit was extremely white and sheltered audience at the time (maybe still is? I haven't used it in years). It was fairly anti-black too when situations like this would prop up. Some white prick would hurl insults at a black person, often using racial insults but if the black person responds with a fist. Well Reddit would always defend the antagonizer.