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Talk shit, get hit...by Mike Tyson
- Thread starter Dalek
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hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!
The throwing of the bottle at Tyson, if true and backed by witnesses (it's not shown in the video, but there could be other videos) changes everything. Throwing a bottle at someone is an assault. And Tyson let him off easy because he could have easily knocked him out.
I guess you missed the part where that drunken asshole threw a water bottle at him.
And let someone call me the n-word to my face or spit at me. Motherfucker is getting their jaw broken after that.
Some of y'alls heightened levels of pacificity would put Jesus Christ to shame.
And I don't mean that as a compliment. That shit leads to the world walking over you.
And I don't mean that as a compliment. That shit leads to the world walking over you.
Watched the videos. I don't know how long it went on for, but the dude was being extremely obnoxious and clearly fishing for a reaction. Not hard to see why Mike lost his cool. Doubly so if the reports of throwing water bottles is true. He was literally asking for it.
I think Mike understands what could happen if someone of his strength and caliber were to seriously throw hands with a random dude, so there is somewhat of an onus on him to show more restraint than would be reasonably expected if it were you or me. That said, the dude looks pretty OK from what I can tell?
I think Mike understands what could happen if someone of his strength and caliber were to seriously throw hands with a random dude, so there is somewhat of an onus on him to show more restraint than would be reasonably expected if it were you or me. That said, the dude looks pretty OK from what I can tell?
Pretty sure Mike was pulling his punches or that dude would be seriously hurt.
Lol yeah. Hell, Jesus wasn't even a 100% pacifist like some members claim themselves to be because Jesus went around and whipped dudes inside of holy ground lol.
ERA posters would be standing in that temple going, "No, Jesus. This is wrong. There are actual adult ways to resolve this" 👉👈
"Jesus Christ! If you keep acting like this they're going to nail your ass to the wall before you're 35."
Well, he shouldn't have gone against the social conventions. It was a crime, and he was punished accordingly.
LOL, right? It was like that Simpson's episode where Homer's brain just straight up grabbed a suitcase and walked out of his head XD XD
Lol thanks! It's just that sometimes people get pushed too far, and they snap. Like that video of that short kid bullying that bigger kid, and the kid just power bombs him because he had fucking had enough of the bully. My situation was reversed, in that I was the much smaller target, and the bully thought he could just keep picking on me like he did Freshman year, because i tend to have a pretty calm temperament, and was raised to not immediately resort to violence, and i can usually shrug off bullying and ignore it, but i had reached my limit with that jackass Sophomore year, and had to let him know what was up. Some bullies really won't back down until you knock some sense into them, and no amount of turning the other cheek is going to work.
I'm not condoning Tyson's actions (again, he's known to be aggressive and pop off), but I can understand his actions for sure. I just don't get why, drunk or not, you'd want to antagonize him period.
I remember a motherfucker on this site telling me it's be better to get on my knees and beg if a bunch of racists were going to pull a Rosewood and butcher my family and I.
Folks care more about their ideology than me and mines. Fuck that noise.
I did miss that part. There was nothing in the OP that suggested that guy got physical with Tyson, only that he was being an annoying little shit.
If he did get physical with Tyson first, that's a different story. Tyson, like every other person, does have a reasonable expectation to be able to defend himself from violence. Adults should be expected to take insults without resorting to violence, but I do think that if someone fails to keep their hands, feet, objects, and bodily fluids to themselves, the one on the receiving end should be able to defend themselves. But fists should fly only if the offending party got physical first. I stand by my belief that nobody has a right to physically assault someone simply because someone else shit-talked them. A bruised ego does not demand a bruised eye in return, because it's not a proportional response.
I'm sorry, but It not ok too hit someone for being moderately annoying, even if they are persistent about it
lots of victim blaming in this thread
lots of victim blaming in this thread
Moderately annoying...
This amount of sugar would give me diabetes.
The whole armchair [insert topic here] is the awful imo. Or even worse the "if it was me I would have done Yada yada".
I wish some of the posters had this energy towards the government and the police. Feel like I've seen people killed by cops for alot less then what happened to Mike Tyson.
But it doesn't look like that's what happened. Mike's spokeperson said the man threw a water bottle at Tyson. And I doubt he's going to lie about that given that witnesses could easily debunk it.
i'm going off the information present in the opening post, which doesn't mention any thrown water bottles
a thrown water bottle would make the reaction a tiny bit more understandable, but throwing punches is still an unacceptable escalation from a water bottle
Just as a general question, is there a point at which it should be the responsibility of the airplane staff to ask the man to stop bothering Tyson?
I'm not an expert but I was under the impression that the cabin crew is supposed to act under these circumstances and by these circumstances I mean before they escalate like this.
I'm not an expert but I was under the impression that the cabin crew is supposed to act under these circumstances and by these circumstances I mean before they escalate like this.
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Oh, I missed the part where the dude was throwing water bottles at him. The fuck?
Ok, yeah, he was asking to get them hands, then.
And, honestly, if he was throwing water bottles at a passenger on the plane, he should have been removed from the flight, post haste.
Like, I'm not a fan of planes. It stresses me out every time I do. I can imagine a scenario where I might lose my temper when I otherwise wouldn't if someone was being super obnoxious, ignoring my attempts to de-escalate, and kept harassing me while I was on a plane. My stress levels would already be elevated since I hate flying, and really just want to get the flight over with.
I'm no expert, but I feel like they have to be. My uncle was escorted off a plane once, because he had a panic attack and freaked out, so you'd think a passenger actively harassing another passenger would be enough for them to spring in to action.
Ok, yeah, he was asking to get them hands, then.
And, honestly, if he was throwing water bottles at a passenger on the plane, he should have been removed from the flight, post haste.
Like, I'm not a fan of planes. It stresses me out every time I do. I can imagine a scenario where I might lose my temper when I otherwise wouldn't if someone was being super obnoxious, ignoring my attempts to de-escalate, and kept harassing me while I was on a plane. My stress levels would already be elevated since I hate flying, and really just want to get the flight over with.
I'm no expert, but I feel like they have to be. My uncle was escorted off a plane once, because he had a panic attack and freaked out, so you'd think a passenger actively harassing another passenger would be enough for them to spring in to action.
I hope that's the case because if this goes to court it will be another messy nightmare. It feels like this was an oversight by the cabin crew.
Not trying to do a gotcha or anything but I'm curious, let's say Tyson had to get security on the plane and they had to use force on this guy to get him off the plane or restrain him, would you be okay with them using force on him, and if so what would the difference be with Tyson who is well equipped to take care of the guy doing it himself? Or would you just say Tyson should have let stuff get thrown at him until it reached some degree where force would be justified and there wasn't enough opportunity for things to escalate to that point in this case?
are you saying that tyson's chosen approach of sustained pummeling (the video shows over ten punches) was the minimum viable amount of intimidation needed to get this man to stop?
You answered my questions with a question! Mike Tyson is more an expert on punching than any of us probably, and looking at the guy's face he did not look to get it that bad, watching the video those blows look very much pulled compared to what Tyson could have done so I do think he probably had in mind not to severely damage the guy. I think punching is pretty universal for annoying the shit out of someone deliberately and throwing something at them, the same with shoving or just grabbing someone up and getting them to the ground, any of those are reactions a normal person might have to that situation. It might not be the minimum viable amount sure, but most people in that situation aren't doing the calculus on what the minimum viable amount of force they can use is.
Yeah I do wonder if it had been a black person or other visible minority who refused to leave a white celebrity alone, how fast the airplane staff may have actually intervened so that the situation didn't escalate to where it ended up? Rather, this individual was allowed to keep badgering Mike Tyson to this point with everyone being so quick to attack Mike for his actions.
from my perspective this man is clearly the victim of assault. whether you think the victim "deserved it" or not, in most countries this would lead to a conviction and months behind bars. mike tyson would have 100% been hit with assault charges here in sweden, and would have 100% gotten convicted thanks to the presence of video evidence, regardless of whether a water bottle was thrown first or not
I can't help but find myself shaking my head in disagreement at people saying that the point is "you shouldn't mess with Tyson".
I don't condone violence but NO ONE should be subject to this type of harassment, specially on a plane with a crew trained for, and with the authority to, handle these situations. I blame this on the cabin crew more than anything.
I don't condone violence but NO ONE should be subject to this type of harassment, specially on a plane with a crew trained for, and with the authority to, handle these situations. I blame this on the cabin crew more than anything.
universal in 'murica maybe. in most other countries this is open and shut assault, regardless of whether a water bottle was thrown before or not. it's hardly universal from an international perspective
the airline should have dealt with this situation by politely showing the annoying drunk the exit before the situation developed into assault, but that doesn't make the perpetrator of assault blameless
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bruh if you flip those two words around this comment sounds really weird
Uh... Oh well?
It's an observation, and I spy with my little eye a Black man trying to mind his business and a white belligerent fool.
For sure. It just doesn't make any sense to me that they'd not escort the guy actively harassing one of the other passengers off the plane, and let it continue to escalate like it did.
so many white ppl in this thread just showing they have no idea what their privilege affords them in the real world.
you flip this situation and have a drunk obnoxious black person or visible minority who refuses to respect the personal space of a famous white person (fuck doesn't even have to be famous in this situation just white lol), and that individual will be immediately told to leave the person alone by the staff, and if they refuse possibly even arrested. It's even likely if the staff noticed that individual was drunk or somewhat intoxicated prior to boarding the plane, they would already be watching their actions in case a situation escalated. Oh but when it's the white person who is slightly intoxicated, nothing to worry about let that person go about their business, which I guess includes straight bothering a black person until he decides to remedy the situation himself and it becomes his fault.
you flip this situation and have a drunk obnoxious black person or visible minority who refuses to respect the personal space of a famous white person (fuck doesn't even have to be famous in this situation just white lol), and that individual will be immediately told to leave the person alone by the staff, and if they refuse possibly even arrested. It's even likely if the staff noticed that individual was drunk or somewhat intoxicated prior to boarding the plane, they would already be watching their actions in case a situation escalated. Oh but when it's the white person who is slightly intoxicated, nothing to worry about let that person go about their business, which I guess includes straight bothering a black person until he decides to remedy the situation himself and it becomes his fault.
Yeah, I wonder as well.
Is it a coincidence that my uncle is Black, and they didn't hesitate to get him off the plane when he had his panic attack? Maybe. But then again, this is America, so probably not...
Lord... The truth.
And did anybody check on Amy Schumer?
Is Amy OK?