That's fine and all but this thread was a comparison over PS4, not a "PS5 does this better than Pc/XBOXXXXXX!<!!"
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Tales of Arise PS5 Compression Shrinks by 20GB (update: Series X, Xbox One and PC similarly small install size, PS4 is just uniquely large)
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That's fine and all but this thread was a comparison over PS4, not a "PS5 does this better than Pc/XBOXXXXXX!<!!"
I mean, the title of the thread is "Tales of Arise PS5 Compression Shrinks by 20GB". Which doesn't appear to be the case.
Played the demo and loved every second of it. Too bad the game is ABSURDLY expensive im Brazil.
Xbox One? That's interesting and I wonder why that is. Certainly can't be the benefit of any SSD, which is no duplicated assets, since Xbox One doesn't have a SSD. Better compression compared to PS4 perhaps?
Not sure. When i played the division 2 on ps4 pro file size was close to 90gb when I last played it. Dont know if it went down in size over time but i had to delete ac Odyssey to make room for the game and the stupid 2x space/buffer ps4 needs when installing games.
PS4 to PS5 gives a 10% advantage by going from zlib to kraken for typical game data. The advantage does go up when RDO is used since kraken is even more efficient than zlib on RDO textures (i.e. oodles textures or similar tools on PC or xbox).
All else being equal, we should expect both PS5 and PC game sizes to be similar, and we should see them 10% to 15% smaller than XBSX.
But there's a million reasons some games might have different sizes between platform outside of this specially cross-gen builds and ports: audio codecs, languages packs, deduplication of streaming data, asset formats unified or not across builds, whether RDO tools are used, PC might have higher res assets, etc...
All else being equal, we should expect both PS5 and PC game sizes to be similar, and we should see them 10% to 15% smaller than XBSX.
But there's a million reasons some games might have different sizes between platform outside of this specially cross-gen builds and ports: audio codecs, languages packs, deduplication of streaming data, asset formats unified or not across builds, whether RDO tools are used, PC might have higher res assets, etc...
Yeah maybe the title is a bit vague, I was going by the OP comment comparing to PS4.
I preordered this on Steam and I'm going to install it on my NVME drive now because the file size is manageable. Thanks for the info!
Weird. My wild guess would be the SSD's allow for more file compression (since data can be retrieved so much faster) where on PS4, they need to "unpack" more data onto the HD for quicker/easier access.
Np. There's a thread with pc info on the steam forums. No denuvo is a nice bonus
It's like clockwork.
Also everyone needs to get over the "duplicated assets" thing. This is not a primarily cause of file size.
Shit the news gets better! Very happy with my decision to preorder this on Steam instead of my PS5.
Performs the same if you opt for the 1620p/60fps mode. Series X is the clear winner in the 2160p/60 mode, especially with VRR
Looks like i'm copping hte SX version then, 2160p/60 all the way. The game already looks gorgeous.
Not followed the thread, but I assume the move to GDK is responsible for the improvement to Xbox One versions, Devs can pick and choose which texture packs are included in each shipped version. Remember X1 is part of the device range supported by their new tools, and I remember David Springate of Dirt 5 mentioning efficiencies via the new Xbox tools brought in improvements to base consoles like X1 and X1X.
They've been able to do it for like 6 years , but very few games did
I wish people would check out the details for the various versions re: things like this, rather than just assuming something they see on [whichever platform] is some secret sauce and blasting their assumption to anyone who'll listen. Myopic hobbyists are the source half the tech confusion in this industry.
Interesting, so did for instance we see X1 version including 4k textures that was never used because these games had to run on X1X ? Might take a look at X1 games Vs X1X later (at the gym currently :p)
Games had access to a some kind of packaging system. I can't remember what it was called (it might have been smart delivery) but it enabled developers to control what languages were installed, I think it extended to other assets too.
I want to say Halo 5 and one of the tomb raider games supported it for a little while, but I don't think it was commonly used.
edit: it was called "intelligent delivery"
Yeah, reading this thread is kinda funny because you'll have some people explaining possible reasons why, then you'll just have others saying "Oh my god xxx compression technique is pretty awesome isn't it?"
Not hating on anyone, it's just not helpful either
