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Jun 12, 2019
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Is there a way to set the character I want to control in battle? Or we have to manually switch from main protagonist at the beginning of every fight?
 

Jannyish

Member
Dec 16, 2017
803
Is there a way to set the character I want to control in battle? Or we have to manually switch from main protagonist at the beginning of every fight?

Main menu, r1 on PS (idk on other platform, it's called "edit" at the bottom of the main menu). A screen opens with your Party member Icons, choose the one you wanna play as and press whatever corresponds to square on your system (it's one of the face buttons). A flag will appear on that character's picture. Exit menu and you should be set.
 

DangerMouse

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,402
Seconding Berseria as a great time, I just played it a few months ago and loved it. Wonderful cast, very cool premise.

I hadn't played any Tales between Symphonia and Berseria so am kind of thinking of what I should follow up on. Even though I know it's largely hated I did but Zestiria basically because I loved Berseria so much, so maybe that'll be my next one.
Yeah, Berseria was fantastic.
 

CielTynave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,223
I fucking knew it. Post 5th lord I knew that God damn attendant with all the Lord's was going to be super important.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,276
Midgar, With Love
Berseria is a decent game in its own right but I can't do the "not even antiheroes, a step even beyond that" thing. Not my cup of tea. I get that people dig that aspect since it's so rare but it's rare for a reason tbqh!

Arise is my fave since... I don't even know when. Abyss? I was counting down the days til y'all could get your hands on it. I knew some wouldn't care for it (it's inevitable!) but I'm glad to see a solid number of fans.
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,426
can any tales experts explain the ex dungeon thing to me?

why edna and her brother for it? was there a plot point relevant from zesteria / berseria that i forgot or are they just fan favorites?
 

CielTynave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,223
can any tales experts explain the ex dungeon thing to me?

why edna and her brother for it? was there a plot point relevant from zesteria / berseria that i forgot or are they just fan favorites?

Nearly every Tales game has a cameo battle of some sort like that, but it isn't meant to be some major story thing connecting the games together.
 

Manu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,167
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Berseria is a decent game in its own right but I can't do the "not even antiheroes, a step even beyond that" thing. Not my cup of tea. I get that people dig that aspect since it's so rare but it's rare for a reason tbqh!

Arise is my fave since... I don't even know when. Abyss? I was counting down the days til y'all could get your hands on it. I knew some wouldn't care for it (it's inevitable!) but I'm glad to see a solid number of fans.
What resonated with me about Berseria was the same thing that I like about the later parts of Berserk. The whole idea of (spoilering just in case) if someone wronged you so much that they deserved to die, but killing them would actively make the world a worse place, would you still do it?

It's an interesting moral dilemma.

edit: starting to believe Berseria/Berserk might be intentional lol
 

John Harker

Knows things...
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Oct 27, 2017
4,358
Santa Destroy
If I unlock skills or stat boosters on one title, but change my title, do I keep those boosts and skills? Or do I only get what's in the wheel of the title I select?

still starting off
 

mugurumakensei

Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,327
I really really want to know what people see in this game to say it's the best tales ever.

Do you like that one female boss character is half naked?
and she was the sole lord to need a secondary boss to help
Do you like the shonen tropes?
Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?
Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?
Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?
Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?
Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.
 

Alpheus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,655
If I unlock skills or stat boosters on one title, but change my title, do I keep those boosts and skills? Or do I only get what's in the wheel of the title I select?

still starting off
Just think of the titles as your growth board/sphere grid, you dont lose anything by swapping around to different nodes, if you hover in the center you can see what mastery stat perks you gain for completing that group of nodes.
 

Deleted member 56266

Account closed at user request
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Apr 25, 2019
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Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?


Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.

just gonna chime in on this point as the others are subjective and to each their own, but you absolutely don't need to buy the dlc at all. I beat the game on hard with minimal grinding. Very little at the end.
 

mugurumakensei

Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,327
just gonna chime in this point as the others are subjective to each their own, but you absolutely don't need to buy the dlc at all. I beat the game on hard with minimal grinding. Very little at the end.
Oh you don't but you do have to have patience with the battles. Those HP sponges are simply long battles. As long as you make sure to either enhance your accessories with lucky element damage reduction or simply go the route of using element specific damage reductions ahead of boss battles, you can breeze through most of the battles.
 

tjlee2

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,743
I really really want to know what people see in this game to say it's the best tales ever.

Do you like that one female boss character is half naked?
and she was the sole lord to need a secondary boss to help
Do you like the shonen tropes?
Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?
Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?
Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?
Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?
Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.

I'm not far enough into the game to have this conversation, but if you are trying to fill people's mouths with your opinion before even having one, why pretend to have one?
 

Neki

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,793
I'm not far enough into the game to have this conversation, but if you are trying to fill people's mouths with your opinion before even having one, why pretend to have one?

Just let him be. No one is gonna change his mind. I thought Arise was a great game with great highs and some lows but overall the experience felt like a next gen tales finally and not something stuck in the PS3 ERA.
 

tjlee2

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,743
Just let him be. No one is gonna change his mind. I thought Arise was a great game with great highs and some lows but overall the experience felt like a next gen tales finally and not something stuck in the PS3 ERA.

I don't need him to change his mind. I have no problem with him thinking game is bad. I have problem with how he pretends to want to have a conversation but already made assumptions on what the other individual likes based on his negative experience with the game.
 

Kuro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
20,653
I really really want to know what people see in this game to say it's the best tales ever.

Do you like that one female boss character is half naked?
and she was the sole lord to need a secondary boss to help
Do you like the shonen tropes?
Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?
Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?
Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?
Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?
Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.
Polish, presentation, and some fluid combat is enough for most people. Its definitely Tales as fuck but so far the game hasn't reached the highs of Abyss or Berseria for me.

I think the moment to moment gameplay and pretty graphics really saves this one and tips it over stuff like Vesperia and Xillia.
 

PKrockin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,260
I'm surprised people have apparently beaten it already. Isn't it like 40 hours? Didn't it come out like 4 days ago? I would expect anyone who played it that much would like it.
 

mugurumakensei

Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,327
I'm surprised people have apparently beaten it already. Isn't it like 40 hours? Didn't it come out like 4 days ago? I would expect anyone who played it that much would like it.
It's about 30-33 hours if you beeline. Also I skipped all the skits once I realized they weren't like previous tales games for the most part with silly banter. Here it's almost all additional exposition dumps on top of the cutscenes you just watched and the previous skit you just saw.
 

Manu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,167
Buenos Aires, Argentina
I really really want to know what people see in this game to say it's the best tales ever.

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I'm not reading your spoiler because most people in this thread haven't finished the game yet but:

Most of your points apply to every Tales other game I played. I finished Vesperia a few weeks ago and I was like 10 levels below the boss of act 2 and farming levels was a mess because enemies give very little exp.

They're full of anime tropes. One-note characters, questionably sexualized women, (Zestiria has a half naked loli) and combat that is simultaneously mashy and obtuse as fuck unless you really want to get into it, which probably requires watching some tutorials on Youtube or something.

I understand not thinking this is the best game in the series but I don't see anything that makes it the worst either? It simplified some stuff but it's also a big jump in graphical fidelity and quality of life features. It also has imo the best controlling combat in the series, it's technical but flashy and addictive. The moment to moment gameplay feels a lot better to me.
 

Slatsunus

Member
Nov 2, 2017
3,213
Saying Arise has fairy limited exploration compared to past Tales is laughable.

Theres more exploration then any of the PS3/4 games in the first realm alone then they had in there full games.

Being a few levels below bosses is nothing new for the series. It's standard for basically every game.

And again, calling the characters one note when your rating fucking Zesteria a cast that you couldn't even call 1d, above it just makes it impossible to take seriously.
 

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Nov 30, 2017
19,101
Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?
Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?
Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?
Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?
Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.
This is kinda where I'm at, though I can't say I've been having problems level wise.

There's a lot to like about this game, but nothing outside of maybe visuals and the combat mechanics really stand out in anything but marginal ways over any other entry to me. And with regards to the latter, boss fights in this game seem like, the anthesis of everything that makes the game's combat mechanics fun in the first place and feels like playing a different, much more tedious game. I'm not even asking for silliness like being able to faceroll bosses with ludicrous combos ala Vesperia, it'd just be nice to actually have bosses in this game that don't boil down to chipping away at ludicrous stat walls until you get a guaranteed boost strike at half health, and then again (with an overlimit phase sprinkled in). They're not even difficult, it's just boring. If I'm looking forward to fighting random trash mobs than bosses in an action RPG, that's a problem.
 

RyougaSaotome

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,674
Hey PC friends!

Is there any way to lock the framerate to 30?

I'm running this on a handheld gaming PC at times and the framerate often jumps from like 30-70 based on what's happening and I'd prefer to just lock it at 30 when I'm on this machine.

But for whatever reason, I guess it only goes as low as a locked 60 or just unlocked entirely?
 

mugurumakensei

Elizabeth, I’m coming to join you!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,327
I'm not reading your spoiler because most people in this thread haven't finished the game yet but:

Most of your points apply to every Tales other game I played. I finished Vesperia a few weeks ago and I was like 10 levels below the boss of act 2 and farming levels was a mess because enemies give very little exp.

They're full of anime tropes. One-note characters, questionably sexualized women, (Zestiria has a half naked loli) and combat that is simultaneously mashy and obtuse as fuck unless you really want to get into it, which probably requires watching some tutorials on Youtube or something.

I understand not thinking this is the best game in the series but I don't see anything that makes it the worst either? It simplified some stuff but it's also a big jump in graphical fidelity and quality of life features. It also has imo the best controlling combat in the series, it's technical but flashy and addictive. The moment to moment gameplay feels a lot better to me.
The thing is almost all the reviews made it sound like a lot of these things were gone. Like the optional hot springs scene that you never have to encounter and I chose not to encounter was fine because I knew about and could control it. I guess more than anything I'm pissed I bought into the hype and paid $60 for a game I hadn't planned to buy til the day before after reviews hit and I would have liked to have more information on what's negative about the game before hand.

I just want either a game that's better than abyss in the overall department or above Graces F in the gameplay and combat department.
 
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sidnok

Member
Feb 4, 2018
343
I have the PS4 copy and I am playing on PS5. Every single time I turn the PS5 on or insert the disk, It starts copying the PS4 version. I thought this was supposed to be fixed? And It only happens with this game.
 

CrichtonKicks

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,209
Hey PC friends!

Is there any way to lock the framerate to 30?

I'm running this on a handheld gaming PC at times and the framerate often jumps from like 30-70 based on what's happening and I'd prefer to just lock it at 30 when I'm on this machine.

But for whatever reason, I guess it only goes as low as a locked 60 or just unlocked entirely?

You should be able to use a program like RTSS to lock to 30 fps or go into NVidia control panel (if you have an NVIDIA card) and lock to 30 fps there.
 

PKrockin

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,260
Hey PC friends!

Is there any way to lock the framerate to 30?

I'm running this on a handheld gaming PC at times and the framerate often jumps from like 30-70 based on what's happening and I'd prefer to just lock it at 30 when I'm on this machine.

But for whatever reason, I guess it only goes as low as a locked 60 or just unlocked entirely?
I don't know if you can do this on your handheld, whatever device it is exactly, but if you have Nvidia Control Panel you can select the game and set a framerate limiter in there.
 

Altezein

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Mar 21, 2021
3,924
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Do you like the shonen tropes?
Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?
Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?
Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?
Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?
Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.
Can answer some, currently on third realm.
  • Love shonen tropes, I'm not expecting this game to be a deconstruction of the genre.
  • Also love HP sponge bosses... that stop being HP spongy when you actually know how to properly use systems to the maximum output (like FF7R).
    For example: I just re-played the 2nd lord for fun, and I think the fight lasted around 3-4 minutes.
  • DLC thing is shit, not buying it. Playing on moderate and having no issues so far.
  • Don't mind exaggerated character tropes either...I like the overall interactions among characters, I find skits entertaining.
  • Corridor dungeons/cities? Not so much... but the graphics/settings change make up for it to some degree
  • Not TOO far into the game, but I don't think the protagonist is plain at this point
 

ZeroX

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
21,266
Speed Force
I know I'm a bit behind, just beat Balseph on Hard, really enjoying this

So far this game stomps every Tales in a long ass time. The story is nothing special but at least it's not gibberish and the characters aren't insufferable, the visuals are actually nice to look at and the game just plays so smoothly compared to the rest of the series. I don't expect the combat to beat Graces, but so far everything looking to be better than Xillia and Berseria (couldn't bring myself to play Zestiria).
 

Jakenbakin

Member
Jun 17, 2018
11,812
Do you like the shonen tropes?

Yes. It's hard to have honest conversations with people obsessed with the concept of "tropes" as if it's inherently a negative instead of a means of classifying concepts that exist in everything, but essentially what I like about Tales is that I feel like I'm playing an anime. "My name is... Alphen!" is not good writing, but it's a hype moment, and that's what I'm here for.

Do you like the simplified equipment system which aside from one weapon is just new equipment always better requiring no thought as to how to approach boss encounters outside of dodge, attack with artes, and use the strike command on the predefined points?

Yes. As I've mentioned from the Berseria stats I spent almost literally twice as much time in menu in that game than I did in battle, and it was because the terribly obnoxious and overly intricate equipment system. I thought I would love it because I love (for example) FFIXs system of tying skills to equipment, but when turned up to 100 on worthless stats it's just a time waster. Simplified isn't necessarily worse.

Do you like HP sponge bosses that are almost always going to be 3-5 levels above you to justify buying DLC?

I don't think this is a thing, so yeah I guess I like how it's balanced. It's rare to have a challenge in RPGs. The boss fights are long but they're also literally the boss fights, the meat and potatoes of the gameplay. I haven't felt the slightest incentive to buy the DLC, nor even grind yet. From impressions of people further than me I'm certain that feeling isn't going to change because I seem to have got past the hardest sections. If I struggle too much I can drop the difficulty level. If I still struggles too much I could probably run a couple dungeons in like 20 minutes and get some levels I guess.

Do you like the rather linear corridors with fairly limited exploration compared to Vesperia and tales games before?

Sure. The incentive of chaining battles means I don't want too much detracting me from getting better gains, the environments look nice, there's enough side paths and verticality to make it feel better than the last Tales of at least, and you get actual worthwhile loot for exploring.

Do you like characters that are almost entirely one note, Shionne is the archetype of Tsundere to a T sure they justify with plot reasons but it still is? Dohalim being the sole exception to this?
Do you like a plain protagonist who doesn't any true internal struggle and strife?

The characters are fine, yeah. No they're not incredible and super nuanced, but they're true to what the series is and has always been. I like Alphen's positive attitude, I like that nobody steeps themselves in their drama and misery, I like when the cast acts light hearted together. I like when they do cheesy moments together too.

Do you like poor attempts at redeeming some pretty poor choices?p

Dunno what this means.

Like I just see absolutely nothing that justifies it being more than an average JRPG with good production values.

Okay? You've been exceedingly dramatic in playing up how bad of an experience you had with the game. That sucks for you but every time you try to start any discourse about it you do it in such a way as to put any dissenting opinions down. What kind of conversation are you actually wanting to have with those of us who are enjoying it? There's that one reviewer that was desperate for other people to dislike the game, so it's not like you're completely alone, but you should probably understand despite your issues with the experience your opinion is rather niche right now.

As other user have said, the game is more than the sum of its parts. I like the presentation, the music, the characters, I like the premise, I like the optional content, etc. and on the whole it's giving me a strong impression of an exceedingly competent JRPG, something that frankly I'm always happy to see more of.
 

fulltimepanda

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,810
yeah despite the combat and the new coat of paint it still very much is a JRPG and still is a Tales of game at that.

I really hope they bring in some more influences for the next game, they've really got the chance to appeal to a wider crowd and blow up big time after this entry and I'd hate to see them trod on as usual.