Nah, I'm pretty sure the guy's name was Shifty Shellshock.
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talented people who make shitty music
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Interesting, since Prince is a much better performer than anyone that has covered his songs. Agree about Dylan though since he isn't that great of a live act.
Never heard anyone say Prince was boring. He is one of the most interesting artists of all time.
Bruno Mars fits this bill pretty well. Insanely talented, but just churns out trash radio music.
I think they're talking about performances. At least that's how I took it. Dude has so many great albums.
Lmao this is the craziest take i've seen in 2021 so far. What the fuck
AG Cook.
Apple is the worst album of 2020, and the fact he veered from brilliance like "Beautiful" to this awful singer-songwriter nonsense is awful.
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Apple is the worst album of 2020, and the fact he veered from brilliance like "Beautiful" to this awful singer-songwriter nonsense is awful.
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Ummm don't look up footage of him performing live with no back track
You buggin. Nas has one of the strongest careers in hip hop and is one of the only hip hop artists performing at his level to actually make innovative and non generic rap music. Add to that, just last year put out one of the best hip hop albums of 2020
I think rivers cuomo fits the bill here. He's an absolute virtuoso on the guitar and he's a brilliant songwriter at least imo, but ever since his total collapse after pinkerton he's completely let go of that and churned out safe crappy pop music. I know people say he's put out better stuff recently I just disagree, 99% of anything past pinkerton is trash.
I was joking ;)
Limp Bizkit is a guilty pleasure of mine, haha :)
Whenever Wes Borland is a sideman he's really good. His stuff with Queen Kwong is fantastic and say what you will about the band, but his playing in Limp Bizkit was the highlight of that organization's existence. But when he tried to be a frontman he just really couldn't cut it. Black Light Burns is pretty tragic to listen to. I have a soft spot for BigdumbFace just because it's so astronomically insane that that record was put out by a major label. But it's not very good.
Wes Borland being a genuinely good guitarist who somehow got relegated to Limp Bizkit will always fascinate me
I'm not a fan of Gaga's music. Can you explain you reasoning behind how a classically-trained, conservatory-educated musician who puts out jazz and country albums when she gets bored of the pop stuff is not talented? I have no emotional attachment to any of her music and am genuinely curious how you reached this conclusion.
Speaking of interesting music, have you heard her collaboration with Tony Bennett? I think it's quite good. All the old jazz heads I work with love it. I think even Mr. Bennett himself was singing her praises.
Skrillex. The Jack U stuff was okay, but I find the aesthetic of his solo work pretty tasteless most of the time.
This is my first time hearing this and I have so many feelings. Once it picks up it's kind of a bop, but the production doesn't sound like PC Music. It's like he was trying to sound overproduced and minimal at the same time, but instead it just sounds kinda cheap.
Agreed for the most part, but that Van Weezer music I've heard sounds pretty promising and the 80's hard rock vibe seems pretty in line with what Cuomo likes nowadays.
This is my first time hearing this and I have so many feelings. Once it picks up it's kind of a bop, but the production doesn't sound like PC Music. It's like he was trying to sound overproduced and minimal at the same time, but instead it just sounds kinda cheap.
I've heard that line over and over in that this stuff sounds promising. I do know deep down rivers is a metal head, but blue album and pinkerton are so legit that you know he has magic in there. The good news is, rivers is happy or at least is seemingly happy. He was a total mental wreck after and during pinkerton. His whole mindset and persona changed and he's really embraced trying to be a "rock star" or a hit maker. When I first heard pork n beans I legitimately thought it was a satire about selling out to move albums, turns out he was being dead serious. He talked in the past about the green album essentially relaunching weezer where he put together the perfect formula for a pop song that will be popular. The entire green album was short super poppy songs, with the verse/chorus/verse/solo that just is the melody of the verse/chorus formula. He never got back to making that raw emotional heartfelt music. I can tell he's tried to do that on a few songs and a few have hit for me,but for the most part it's like current rivers trying to imitate early 90s rivers. It's a shame because I really think he was an absolutely brilliant songwriter.
This is probably the biggest example. Extremely talented guitarist, almost all of his actual music is a snoozefest.
Skrillex is also a good answer. He's at least put his skills to producing some other songs.
Came into this thread thinking it was about people with talent who make shitty music. Not talented musicians who make shitty music. In the spirit of my assumption I would like to put forth Randy Savage. While most people know him as a wrestler and as the guy Peter fought in the wrestling in the first Sam Rami Spider-Man movie. In 2003 he put out a rap album. It was an interesting experience to say the least.
It's not even that he stopped writing good music, it's that for whatever reason the good stuff rarely made it onto their albums. Rivers recently released hundreds of demos spanning most of his career on his website and going through them it's pretty obvious that almost every post-Pinkerton album could have been a lot better if he just selected the right tracks.
I wasn't sure how to respond to the thread premise, but I kinda have to agree with this. Specifically post-2009.
I actually love Frusciante's solo stuff much MUCH more than RHCP. But that's his output up to 2009, after this he veered off in a different (electronic) direction and it just doesn't do it for me. But hey, I'm sure somebody likes it, and he likes doing it, so more power to him.
He already gave me Inside of Emptiness, he can do what he wants now.
I think Rebecca Black is a great example of this. Ark did a TERRIBLE job at editing her music and voice in Friday, so I felt so sorry for Rebecca Black. There really was no reason her song should've been as much of a standout to the world than other mediocre songs are also. She's shown her true voice in some of her newer songs but I still think she tries to make them super pop-y and electronic.
A long time ago someone told me "Frank Zappa is a wanker, and his fans are wankers", and I just nodded in agreement.
frank zappa thread
I maintain that Feed the Machine has 5 absolute bangers on it. They're still poppy and the lyrics are cheesy as hell, but the heavier sound really makes them enjoyable.
The Betrayal (Act III) is my favourite.
Pre-RAM Daft Punk's catalog was intensely sample-based House/Disco bordering on plunderphonics. Not that the music isn't good, or that plunderphonics doesn't have artistic merit, but a lot of the appeal from their first 3 albums and ephemera directly stems from the samples themselves and not from the particular way in which they are used. i.e. - It's music they didn't create, write, or perform themselves.
Random Access Memories, while not the same as their previous work, or what everyone wanted, is undeniably a well-produced, well-executed piece of disco/funk rock. Daft Punk upgraded sampling existing music and instead worked with musicians (many of whom they'd previously sampled) playing actual instruments to create their own memorable hooks/melodies/etc for the album.
So I'm curious as to how them stepping up their game in terms of sourcing samples vs. composing music results in 'shitty music' when you could more easily argue their early work is 'shitty' because it's overwhelmingly made of music they didn't create themselves.
It certainly isn't "selling out" whatsoever.
Absolutely hate his record, because AG can't fucking sing. Yes, that same statement can be applied to most of the PC Music roster/affiliates, but damn man, at least they use Autotune, vocoders, and all sorts of vocal effects to hide it. AG is playing it straight, and its just grating especially since the accompaniment is the college freshman who uses their acoustic guitar as a substitute for their personality.
George Harrison... Post All Things Must Pass he just kinda gave up, I think. A very vital part of the Beatles but his solo stuff was on a whole very meh.
Modern Pixies. What the fuck happened to this band? I get Kim Deal left but Frank Black is still there and Kim was getting shafted after Dolittle anyway. Their comeback albums have been terrible and I don't even think they're that good live anymore. Sorry, in just venting at how disappointed I am in them. Go listen to The Breeders.
Modern Pixies. What the fuck happened to this band? I get Kim Deal left but Frank Black is still there and Kim was getting shafted after Dolittle anyway. Their comeback albums have been terrible and I don't even think they're that good live anymore. Sorry, in just venting at how disappointed I am in them. Go listen to The Breeders.
Ok, I just went & checked this out on Youtube. You have blown my mind. It has been blown.
Coldplay. If you listen to their old albums, they made some good music. But then it went downhill so hard toward the late 00s.
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The first person that came to mind for me as well. All the people I know who've seen him live, say he's an incredible guitarist. I recently went through a Spotify playlist of his songs, and wow none of them were interesting. Just boring pop rock.
There's something... uncanny about his music that makes it borderline unlistenable for me.
Yes! Their first two albums were great. I can't even listen to their new stuff.
Noel Gallagher. He wrote some absolute bangers for Oasis. But his solo albums generally have 1 or 2 great songs and the rest are forgettable.
MGMT is pretty good case study of why talented artists make shitty music.
"When we wrote Time to Pretend, we were totally taking the piss out of the rock star thing. And all of a sudden that song was, like, a single, and we had to play it every day for … two … years." He laughs ruefully, then corrects himself, perhaps for the benefit of the million people who went out and bought MGMT's debut album Oracular Spectacular, stupid songs and all. "I'm not saying that Kids and Time to Pretend are stupid songs, but I think there's at least partial irony and sarcasm.
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"When we wrote Time to Pretend, we were totally taking the piss out of the rock star thing. And all of a sudden that song was, like, a single, and we had to play it every day for … two … years." He laughs ruefully, then corrects himself, perhaps for the benefit of the million people who went out and bought MGMT's debut album Oracular Spectacular, stupid songs and all. "I'm not saying that Kids and Time to Pretend are stupid songs, but I think there's at least partial irony and sarcasm.
MGMT: 'We got a glimpse of fame and shrunk back'
From college pranksters to indie-disco stars – and back again? But if MGMT's new album really is commercial suicide, it's unintentional, they tell Alexis Petridis
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A lot of people around here need to understand that not liking a musician does not mean that the musician is untalented.
You don't like the music? That's fine.
They play and sing perfectly? They are talented.
You don't like the music? That's fine.
They play and sing perfectly? They are talented.