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Take-Two is reportedly pressuring Rockstar Games to return to their more frequent game release schedule.
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seems like rockstar should have most of the leverage in this, considering their games sell insanely well
all they'd have to say is "do you want us to make 2 fifteen-million sellers in 6 years, or 1 one-hundred-million seller in the same time?"
all they'd have to say is "do you want us to make 2 fifteen-million sellers in 6 years, or 1 one-hundred-million seller in the same time?"
They didn't say that. They said they got it on pc. They intentionally didn't get it on the 360 because of that. Instead...they got the gta that released on this generation of consoles because that's the version that released on pc.
If you love shenmue and you think that....then it is what it is.
And then Take Two could point out that GTA V is the only game they've made that sold anywhere near 100 million copies and they are now taking a lot more than 6 years to make each one.
Well I guess we'll just have to let the other person speak for themselves.
What on earth are you talking about? Of course you can.... Studios do it today, and older gens were literally full of studios doing exactly that. Stop the lies! Masterpieces come in all sizes!
I'm fine with this. Instead of making a bunch of crap to monetize for their online stuff, let's put those resources back into making more games.
Like it used to be.
Like it used to be.
Bigger and betters takes time. Time allows them to experiment with new ideas properly, time to implement grand, complex systems, etc. Time for a break.
How many of those games from those studios you mention would not have benefited from further improvements that distinguish themselves from their previous games and other games on the market? They all would have. Rockstar sets the standards with their open world games. They are a good bet. If it takes them that long to do it, keep doing it.
The next-gen CPUs just got a lot better. That could mean a lot for GTAVI.
Take-Two sounds like it's willing to risk compromising the quality of it. Maybe it's such an easy sell they're not worried about improvements. But as I said, bigger and better takes time - and a sizeable effort.
Smaller projects can't take any priority. They've maintained their reputation until now. Leave it to them.
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Exactly. They can't be so stupid to not realize that the time between Rockstar's giant games is the reason WHY they come out as great as they do, WHY every launch feels like such an event, and WHY they, and only they, are able to knock Call of Duty off that top spot each year they release.
Also you better believe GTAO doesn't find the same success if they're pumping out a merely average GTA every 2 or 3 years. The only reason that shit is the grand slam success it is is because of the masterful single player, and Strauss Zelnick has even said as much on the record.
Nah, you sound like you conflate bigger with better as if they are the same thing. They aren't. Bigger does not naturally indicate better at all. I've played more games than I can count that are better that GTAV and none of them are as large. And your argument is useless because as presented it argues for 15 or even 20 year development times with zero cap under the broken ideal that "more time for more shine is always better!". That's not how it works. Diminishing returns is a thing. And Bigger aint always Better.
Take Two may be suggesting this for selfish reasons, but it doesn't mean that you cannot make smaller scale games more frequently and have them be better games. Thats crazy talk.
I'd like to see a new game from them, since I'll never play the online mode in gta or red dead.
You didn't give any of those as examples. When I say bigger I don't just mean in size, but in scope and ambition. The sorts of mechanics they could add with that new power, I can't begin to imagine.
But some people want to limit some of the best games.
There are smaller games that are masterpieces. I bet they took a lot of time too. Spelunky for one. ;)
Give Rockstar a blank cheque for GTAVI.
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Don't make people work and horse testicle tech and maybe release more than 1 game a gen.
Let them take however long it takes to make outstanding games. No need to push for an accelerated schedule at the expense of quality. I hope the Housers have told Zelnick to back off.
What the fuck did I do? GTA V did not come out this generation and PCs aren't generational!
Midnight Club.
Take Two / Rockstar needs to open up a few more studios to handle the load (better).
Take Two / Rockstar needs to open up a few more studios to handle the load (better).
Is Take-Two's idea that more Rockstar games means more simultaneous sources for microtransaction cash flows?
Somehow having GTAV be in the top sellers for LITERALLY MULTIPLE YEARS just isn't enough for them.
So just pump some half-baked shit out and they expect consumers to constantly fork over cash over and over again? Because more games is just going to spread Rockstar even more thin across these multiple projects. The content won't come anywhere near as steadily as it has been, a big reason why Rockstar's titles (especially GTA5/GTAO) are always seen in top selling lists.
This is just... all sorts of asinine.
Somehow having GTAV be in the top sellers for LITERALLY MULTIPLE YEARS just isn't enough for them.
So just pump some half-baked shit out and they expect consumers to constantly fork over cash over and over again? Because more games is just going to spread Rockstar even more thin across these multiple projects. The content won't come anywhere near as steadily as it has been, a big reason why Rockstar's titles (especially GTA5/GTAO) are always seen in top selling lists.
This is just... all sorts of asinine.
Take Two needs to look at what Disney did with Star Wars. You just can't turn stuff out year after year. It ends up killing the "mojo" if you will. It's partly why their stuff is so special. It's an event.
Be happy with what you got Take Two. You greedy bastards.
Be happy with what you got Take Two. You greedy bastards.
I think there is a middelground somewhere between releasing one game every year and releasing one game a generation.
That's just salary. They more than likely make their money from stock ownership worth millions a year
Technically, Yes. If you don't count the new versions of GTA V. But It's not like they released one game and are just working on another game that will be out in 5-7 years. They have been supporting the hell out of GTA Online and Red Dead Online with great updates while they work on other projects.
Maybe. They might delay it interally for a next gen exclusive release. It's entirely possible that we don't see it until 2024 after the internal and public delays.
I would bet on Rockstar sticking to their current release schedule rather than adhering to T2's directive.
I don't want developers to experience even more crunch. That being said it does seem odd that they produced one new game an entire console generation. It seems like they should be able to make two full games in one generation, but we will see with the PS5.
This.
I know gaming web forums like to perpetuate this idea that every publisher is a big evil corporation, but I very much see where T2 is coming from here.
I definitely, don't think they are trying to push Rockstar back towards an even more toxic crunch culture. I think if anything, they are highlighting the need for change at the management level to ensure they are properly utilising their existing resources without overburdening and overworking the staff at each studio.
