I don't think anyone is saying it's correct, it's just a mode that makes the OLED screen seem more punchy out of the box. Almost every TV does the same thing when you buy it.
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Switch OLED owners: Vivid or Standard mode?
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Nintendo prefers to display the games differently from what the developers envisioned? I don't think that's true. Nintendo wants consumers to see a bigger difference between the new OLED switch and the regular LCD variety through this disingenuous move. If they offered the same "vivid" mode on the regular switch the impression on the OLED would be much more muted which is sad because true infinite contrast is far more important to PQ than almost anything else.
There is plenty of modern art but you get my point. You are just trying to be difficult.
Nintendo commented on it or one of their developers did.
They said something like it shows off the new OLED tech.
I can't find the comment, it was posted on this board.
On the OLED in the living room? No
On the OLED I use as a gaming PC monitor? Yes
Here: https://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/d...oper-vol-2-nintendo-switch-oled-model-part-2/
He claims Standard makes it look more like a conventional LCD display.
I find the colours in vivid mode really off-putting. Kind of reminds me of how GBA games that were designed to be visible on the original non-lit screen look on a screen with a backlight, with ugly overly bright and saturated colours. The screen looks pretty amazing in Standard mode anyway.
This is a really stupid comment unless standard is just raising the black level to make it look like an LCD. 😂 The OLED screen they are using might cover more of the SDR color gamut than their LCD but that has nothing to do with the actual tech. Also as was posted earlier, standard mode scientifically measures much closer to what the color gamut should look like. I can see why Nintendo might use Vivid as the default but the comment from Yamashita is either purposely misleading or comes from a place of ignorance.
Pretty sure this is only a setting (and a default one at that) to exaggerate the screen upgrade between the models.
People can enjoy their displays with any preferred calibration but I don't like the general lack of care or even interest from device manufacturers regarding correct image reproduction, in the pursuit of more spectacular but wildly inaccurate general public impressions.
What I can say is that people should give standard mode a genuine try for a substantial period. It may feel desaturated at first, in the same way a warmer, accurate image may look yellow when so many devices are calibrated like a freezer, but in the long run your eyes will adjust and you'll enjoy a much more pleasant, intentional authored look to all your content.
(Well when you have faith in content and game creators working on properly calibrated displays themselves, which I know is very often not the case)
People can enjoy their displays with any preferred calibration but I don't like the general lack of care or even interest from device manufacturers regarding correct image reproduction, in the pursuit of more spectacular but wildly inaccurate general public impressions.
What I can say is that people should give standard mode a genuine try for a substantial period. It may feel desaturated at first, in the same way a warmer, accurate image may look yellow when so many devices are calibrated like a freezer, but in the long run your eyes will adjust and you'll enjoy a much more pleasant, intentional authored look to all your content.
(Well when you have faith in content and game creators working on properly calibrated displays themselves, which I know is very often not the case)
Games are vary rarely made on reference monitors. Likely some high end AAA games are, but we'd probably be talking games like The Last of Us Part 2. Certainly however, not games that end up on the Switch. Outside of some weird specifics (like how DOS VGA games were displayed as a 6bit palette despite being 8bit in memory), colours aren't really the thing that developers expect to be 100% accurate. Because aside from anything else, it's just not feasible to assume everyone can view your game on an identical display.
It's nice that you'd want to go through the effort to configure that but your average developer isn't really going to be all that fussed about the Switch colour profile.
Anyone have both their old Switch and OLED???
I'm curious how much nicer the OLED is on the Standard setting than the picture on the OG Switch.
Obviously the difference between Vivid and the OG Switch is drastic.
I'm curious how much nicer the OLED is on the Standard setting than the picture on the OG Switch.
Obviously the difference between Vivid and the OG Switch is drastic.
No lol, You're completely taking his words out of context. He compared it to the color space of the LCD display on the other Switch consoles, which is true. He's just using it as a point of comparison
Am I crazy or does "Vivid" seem to add the slightest bit of sharpening as well as over saturated color?
lol it's night and day difference just by nature of being oled. the original switch screen bleeds light non stop
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A lot of Triple A games use reference and of course there are a bunch of devs, specifically indies that don't. I'm still going to argue that most will have a monitor that's setup closer to standard than vivid. I can't imagine first party Nintendo games aren't mastered to some sort of standard.
i can't believe vivid mode is the default. even the eshop orange nearly melted my eyes the first time i loaded it up.
was playing cruis'n blast earlier and my nissan GTR just looked like a red blob in the middle of the screen. (granted, that is a visually ridiculous game already)
there are games where it maybe makes more sense like tetris effect but i think i'll go with standard most of the time.
was playing cruis'n blast earlier and my nissan GTR just looked like a red blob in the middle of the screen. (granted, that is a visually ridiculous game already)
there are games where it maybe makes more sense like tetris effect but i think i'll go with standard most of the time.
Vivid is not the worst thing ever on this thing but I agree that it is disappointing that Nintendo included it as the default mode.
No game is really made with a vivid mode in mind.
No game is really made with a vivid mode in mind.
You don't need a reference monitor. Most PC monitors either have an sRGB mode, or are natively sRGB.
Most televisions these days have BT.709 color (same gamut as sRGB) if you switch them to a more accurate preset like "cinema" mode, rather than "vivid."
Of course a reference display is best, but so long as you aren't working on a super inaccurate wide gamut display/mode, it should mostly translate to other screens.
But there are many games which do look awful in their default state.
I have a strong suspicion that many Gen 7 games were designed on wide-gamut displays, since it was common back then for televisions to lack a good color-accurate preset, or even have color management systems capable of accurate color.
And I don't see the need to police what mode people use.
Inform people that standard mode is the most-accurate, and displays color as it should look, but if people want to use vivid mode, let them.
I will push back against people trying to say that vibrant mode is best because it's "what Nintendo intended" or anything like that, however.
He does not say "a conventional LCD display," he says "THE" conventional LCD display. He's just referring to "the previous Switch screen," which was already tuned to a fairly accurate color space, rather than the Vivid mode.
It is recommeneded to turn off Vivid in some TVs cus it crushes blacks and some colours. Dunno about Switch Oled though.
So far, I've played Metroid Dread for nearly 3 hours. It's the only Switch game I've exclusively played on the OLED Switch, and 100% in vibrant mode. It looks fantastic!
Yeah just saw after i wrote the message is deep into the part where it says console, isntead of in the brightness parts, which seems dumb.
I think im a fan of vivid image though, at least for metroid. Everything seem so dead when i switched it off.
Okay, so after playing New Horizons on a clear sunny day going back and forth between standard and vivid as I toured my island I do think standard looks a bit better here.
I still think it's going to be a game by game basis for me still however because I played Tetris Effect and I think that looks better in vivid.
I still think it's going to be a game by game basis for me still however because I played Tetris Effect and I think that looks better in vivid.
