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Switch emulator Yuzu has pokemon sword/shield running day 1
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The privileges are strong, are you a Marine from one piece?
There's a bit more to it than owning a game's copy.
Emulation is only legal IF you own a copy of the game you're emulating AND you own the *exact* original hardware (Switch in this case) the BIOS was dumped from. This last bit is where 99% of ppl using an emulator are in violation of the fair use agreement. It's not enough to own A Switch. You must have dumped the BIOS yourself from YOUR own Switch.
That said, emulation *can* be legal, and it's not the topic of this thread.
It's great to see emulation progressing so fast.
It would be great if mods could take a harsher stance on emulation discussions. The guidelines are clear, but nevertheless every thread still get derailed by trolls and meta discussions about said trolls. Of course, including this post as well. The topic is about a new Pokemon working on Yuzu, anything else is off-topic imo.
On-topic: I'm guessing that the new Pokemon games are technically not that advanced since support is so good from day 1? I'll have to check how it performs with for example Luigi's Mansion 3.
On-topic: I'm guessing that the new Pokemon games are technically not that advanced since support is so good from day 1? I'll have to check how it performs with for example Luigi's Mansion 3.
Emulation is legal, but some things should be taken in consideration when speaking about current Gen consoles emulation. That's all
It's not about being technically advanced or not. Since XY the games are running on modified versions of the same engine. If Yuzu can run Let's Go, then it will be able to run SwSh with hitches.
By the way yes, its derailing, intentional or not, but not trolling. I will stop talking about that however, don't want to risk my account right at a Pokémon game launch
Is there anything wrong with playing a newly released game on a emulator?
A game that got dumped before release? I say it raises a few brows at least tbf
Also the game is not really on a playable state right now
I think BoTW booted on day one in CEMU; though it took a long ass time to get playable in a fashion where the average person would even bother with it.
Given that you'd need original files dumped from your console in order to log in to play online with every emulator past PS2, anyone wanting to go through the effort to cheat or hack online is doing it on actual hardware.
Emulators these days emulate the bios itself and don't require dumps from the actual consoles; unless Yuzu is different.
Do you know why? Logically it would make sense to use the BIOS to get a more accurate emulation, though it would require a user to obtain a proprietary binary. Perhaps it is then simply easier to write a clean room implementation?
These emulators require high-end gaming PCs to even run remotely well, and let's be honest at that point you either already own a Switch as a gaming enthusiast or you never have had the intention to buy a Switch in the first place. It's just cool to see what improvements to the game emulators can bring, I don't get why people get so upset about it.
No idea, I'm not a developer and my curiosity doesn't go that deep. I just know that the most accurate and compatible emulators, be it BSNES or Dolphin, don't require actual hardware dumped bios at all and none of the up and coming ones do, either. Saturn to PS2 systems are the only ones that require bios dumps, aside from MAME, but MAME is its own garbled mess of nonsense.
RPCS3 gets around the BIOS situation since Sony actually includes the PS3 firmware files as a download online. It used to be that you had to supply the right files yourself.
I personally don't consider them useful for enjoying a game here and now. An emulator needs at least a decade or more of support and care before it reaches a good level of accuracy across a large part of the library of the system, let alone across every single title.
And after that amount of time, the requirements have dropped to the point where a simple laptop can play them at full speed. As you argue, to play them on day one, you;d need a powerful PC, and at that point it's just cheaper to buy the game plus console, so it's not sensible. Especially as you get to experience it without crashes or bugs.
Emulators are only interesting for preservation. Claims that they are enabling piracy are ill-informed, and do more harm to the medium than good.
Hey is the guy that always appears on emulation threads trying to derail things without purpose.
It's a fact that you can't hack Switch consoles avaible in stores right now.
If you have issues with people stating facts or correcting misinformation that's on you.
I don't care what system you hack or if you Pirate every game in existence...it doesn't affect me, but let's not sugarcoat around the fact that hacking a current Switch isn't as easy as people always promote in these threads.
Emulators of old or simple hardware, yes.
Switch is way more complex and Yuzu still requires you to dump your own BIOS afaik.
In any case they don't provide you with neither games nor an illegally obtained BIOS, so what they're doing is perfectly legal and covered by the fair use agreement (at least in the US/Europe).
Using the actual BIOS is usually more accurate, but requires you to own the original device (and know how to dump the BIOS from it).
This might not be easy or cheap for old hardware, so emulating the BIOS as well is an option to legally workaround the issue.
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Nothing he said is wrong, you know. It's a fact that Mariko units can't be hacked, and they probably make for more than half of the Switch consoles out there right now
Correct. The CPU that can run Switch emulator at acceptable level can get you a Switch Lite.
Well not really. Here where I live, old hackable Switch and new Switch are still on shelves.
PS3 is far from simple, and I didn't need to dump bios files. All that needs is PS3 firmware, which is readily available from Sony's website. Cemu doesn't require bios files, either, unless you consider both of those simple.
That's great for you but most people won't have the luck of being able to get a pre-Mariko system if they hit a retailer now for Switch.
Wow. Sony was right all along with PS3's Cell processor lol. Make your hardware as complicated as possible so your titles don't get emulated on Day 1!
It is a weird grey area. I honestly have massive quibbles about championing currently active systems (mini-consoles included) being emulated on alternative hardware, but there are huge amount of factors at work that stop the conversation being completely binary. Getting a head start on game preservation (for when the platform reaches the end of its cycle), and how Switch as a platform pretty much offers a huge array of benefits that a PC emulation cannot deliver, so it is really knocking into sales?
I do wonder about what %age of people enthusing about getting the chance to "unlock the potential of Switch games" on PC are getting down to a shop, buying a cartridge and dumping it for their own consumption. Obviously anyone who outright states they are ripping games from the net gets banned, but who really would say it out loud.
But that is more a discussion for a "ethics of emulation" thread, rather than a "current state of play for emulator X".
Turns out the Switch "Pro" was part of our household all along xD
It can offer performance improvement but, and let's be frank here, the emulation and user experience of a non-native system on a PC pretty much sucks. And then you don't get the platform benefits of portability and convenience. Only the Switch hardware offers this and it is a general advantage for Nintendo not conforming to standard hardware for their consoles. In a nutshell: there are reasons to own a Switch instead of a PC and buy games for it, the audiences don't really rub up against each other. But, and as I mention above, I do wonder about the capabilities of people emulating Switch games. Have they bought the games themselves and have been dumping them themselves.
I tell you this much, I certainly didn't in the past. I made my own PS1 eboots from the net on my hacked PSP, grabbed UMD iso's. The lot. In the end, I moved to standard firmware and actually re-bought the games I had played, and I generally felt better about things at that point. I tend to go for the approach of "if it is for sale on the platform, I buy it on the platform".
such anger...don't let the dark side rule you frank. fight back.
and yeah I already knew about Yuzu...I just have no interest in emulating the Switch, or playing Pokemon on it.
Whatever resolution you set it on, probably. If the emulator can get it to playable frame rates, then changing the internal resolution doesn't change performance much.
Depending on hardware, of course.
Uh, I guess I meant to ask what the game's current resolution is on native Switch hardware - like BotW is dynamic 900p on Switch. I heard SwSh are native 1080p on the Switch.
I hope that someday people will see how important emulation is for game and system preservation. Projects like Mame are fascinating and important if you are really interested in gaming in general.
Let them see what they want to see. I'll be busy playing MGS4 with fan made high res textures (in three years) and older titles with patched widescreen.
My guess: As Yuzu is a fruit, a citrus to be more specific, it's likely a reference to their previous 3DS emulator: Citra.
Nobody is denying the importance of emulation regarding preservation, dude
Put me in the camp that loves emulation. The dedication to creating them, the discovery that comes with it, being able to run your games in even higher fidelity than before and find cool details... Having fun with mods etc
Emulation has so many net positives i dont even think twice about the potential piracy impact which is so negligible thats its not even worth mentioning
Emulation has so many net positives i dont even think twice about the potential piracy impact which is so negligible thats its not even worth mentioning
Speaking of which, what's going on with the 3ds emulation these days?
From what I remember there is not much happening right now in the git from citra, I think many yuzu devs came from citra.
This has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever read on this site