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Choppasmith

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
6,410
Beaumont, CA
Sexy Batman strikes again.

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Carnby

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Oct 25, 2017
12,236
Wow that dialogue and voice acting was God awful. "I'm going to rob a museum or two. Buh bye. *My home planet needs me exit*."
 

Dalcop

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Nov 28, 2017
347
I'm not sure exactly what message people are attempting to pull from this other than humor. Men and women generally have different body language and it's exaggerating the difference further given its comic book origins. Of course it's silly to see Batman imitating a cat in the most feminine way possible, because that's not his character.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It just shows what a bore Bats is. Just stood there like a plank of wood.
Well what may seems "boring" to you is efficiency for the bats. He's a trained ninja, so perhaps he is constantly aware of his energy and stamina levels, and he saves any kind of physical movement for fighting his enemies or/and scaling and grappling off buildings etc.
 

VulcanRaven

alt account
Banned
Oct 21, 2019
105
Funny as hell lol

I hope they always animate catwoman like that

loved it in both city and knight

nothing wrong with a sexy walk, especially considering the character
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't get the "catwoman's movements (animation) is too sexualized" argument up in here, out of all female comic book characters, isn't she pretty much a seductive, visually distracting, S&M jewel thief in PVC that also happens to have some fighting chops? I don't usually care for Anne Hathaway's dramatic acting, but she nailed it as Catwoman with her psychical acting in one of them Nolan Bats movies.

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Zolbrod

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Oct 27, 2017
3,070
Osaka, Japan
I don't get the "catwoman's movements (animation) is too sexualized" argument up in here, out of all female comic book characters, isn't she pretty much a seductive, visually distracting, S&M jewel thief in PVC that also happens to have some fighting chops?

Yeah, that's my sentiments on this as well.
I'll be the first to admit the industry has loads of problems with sexualization, but Catwoman has always been this kind of character. It fits with who/what she is.

Now if this was Batgirl it would be fucking stupid.
 

LuisGarcia

Banned
Oct 31, 2017
3,478
I'm not Batman nerd but isn't the whole point is that she is supposed to move a bit like a cat?

Looks funny though
 

Pau

Self-Appointed Godmother of Bruce Wayne's Children
Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,837
Highlights what I've always hated about Selina's portrayal in the Arkham games. She can be sexy without it being this ridiculous. But at the end of the day the games aren't made for me, despite Catwoman being one of my favorite characters.
 
Oct 28, 2019
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I'm not sure exactly what message people are attempting to pull from this other than humor. Men and women generally have different body language and it's exaggerating the difference further given its comic book origins. Of course it's silly to see Batman imitating a cat in the most feminine way possible, because that's not his character.
Yeah in the rush to moralize this model swap people seem to have forgotten what the character is like and how she is usually portrayed in media. Nothing about this was overtly sexual, and even if it was, are sexy characters that act like that not allowed to exist?
 

Khanimus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
40,146
Greater Vancouver
I don't get the "catwoman's movements (animation) is too sexualized" argument up in here, out of all female comic book characters, isn't she pretty much a seductive, visually distracting, S&M jewel thief in PVC that also happens to have some fighting chops? I don't usually care for Anne Hathaway's dramatic acting, but she nailed it as Catwoman with her psychical acting in one of them Nolan Bats movies.

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There's a significance between a confident sassy strut and acting like the preamble to a porn scene.

Also "because the comics" isn't a great defense regarding egregious depictions of women.
 

Kinthey

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
22,261
I don't get the "catwoman's movements (animation) is too sexualized" argument up in here, out of all female comic book characters, isn't she pretty much a seductive, visually distracting, S&M jewel thief in PVC that also happens to have some fighting chops? I don't usually care for Anne Hathaway's dramatic acting, but she nailed it as Catwoman with her psychical acting in one of them Nolan Bats movies.

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Yeah, the point of Catwoman is to be over the top.
I guess next time they can just stare at each other, broad shouldered and brooding
 

Spring-Loaded

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Oct 27, 2017
19,904
Yeah, the point of Catwoman is to be over the top.
I guess next time they can just stare at each other, broad shouldered and brooding

There is no single "point of catwoman" that necessitates such a one-note portrayal. If it's tradition, it can and should be changed for the better.

If you don't care about that character's portrayal or those of women characters in general, that's fine. No need to frame it as a false dichotomy between "walking sexualised female stereotype" and "non-emotive slab of stone."

"If she's not dislocating her pelvis while walking, then what could she possibly do????" 😂
 

ToTheMoon

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like criticism of this is more of a critique of Batman universe non-protagonist side characters in general, who tend to be a few traits dialed up to 11 to counterbalance the stoic, serious, and dull Batman.

(Disclaimer: haven't played the game, but if she's a side character with limited scenes then it isn't surprising to me that her personality is just "maximum Catwoman")
 
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Kinthey

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
22,261
There is no single "point of catwoman" that necessitates such a one-note portrayal. If it's tradition, it can and should be changed for the better.

If you don't care about that character's portrayal or those of women characters in general, that's fine. No need to frame it as a false dichotomy between "walking sexualised female stereotype" and "non-emotive slab of stone."

"If she's not dislocating her pelvis while walking, then what could she possibly do????" 😂
But this model swap will never look not odd unless you do that.
From what I read in other threads I also thought people had more of a problem with sexualized characters who actually aren't sexual themselves. In case of Catwoman being sexual is an inherent part of her personality and I don't think that needs to change
 

Spring-Loaded

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Oct 27, 2017
19,904
But this model swap will never look not odd unless you do that.
From what I read in other threads I also thought people had more of a problem with sexualized characters who actually aren't sexual themselves. In case of Catwoman it is an inherent part of her personality and I don't think that needs to change

The character isn't a real person. They don't need to adhere to one characteristic and nothing more

Her screen time throughout the series is nothing more than than "sexy temptress thief" even when there's opportunity for more than that. There's compelling backstory in the first game she showed up in, but you'd never know that without listing to audio logs.

If it sucks (and it does) people will want it to be better. Why run defence for this of all things 😂
 

Bunga

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,251
That was hilarious lmao. I don't think I can look at Batman the same again in Knight now.
 

Kinthey

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
22,261
The character isn't a real person. They don't need to adhere to one characteristic and nothing more
I feel like that's contradicting. Exactly because they're not real but a character in a comic book game it's okay to be one note.

Her screen time throughout the series is nothing more than than "sexy temptress thief" even when there's opportunity for more than that. There's compelling backstory in the first game she showed up in, but you'd never know that without listing to audio logs.
I don't mind the idea of expanding her character but this seems to me more like taking a characteristic away than just adding.
 

BigWinnie1

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Feb 19, 2018
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I actually really liked, Batman really owns is sexuality.

I'm gonna be honest, Catwomen and Batman have the same views on sex and sexuality but Selina just owns it and Bruce hides it. I mean They will fight each each other for fun and accidentally break into some dudes apartment and fuck in his bed, not to mention all their fucking on rooftops and kinky games lol Its like the worst kept secret in gotham that if Batman is seen chasing Catwomen than they are fucking soon.

Now that I think about it all of Batmans serious love interest are all a bit kinky in their own way Selina and Wonder Women both like S&M and Talia Al-Ghul Is down for just about anything and has a small Harem of her own even if she still wants he baby daddy.
 

Spring-Loaded

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Oct 27, 2017
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I feel like that's contradicting. Exactly because they're not real but a character in a comic book game it's okay to be one note.


I don't mind the idea of expanding her character but this seems to me more like taking a characteristic away than just adding.

And it's simultaneously ok for them to not be one-note and also not a prominent reductive stereotype who is used as just a hostage to save for the longest side quest in the game.

Her being more than that one tired trope and getting character moments that explore motivation or feelings beyond "alluring cat burglar" would not "take a characteristic away." That makes no sense and it's confusing how someone could reach that conclusion
 

Kinthey

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
22,261
And it's simultaneously ok for them to not be one-note and also not a prominent reductive stereotype who is used as just a hostage to save for the longest side quest in the game.

Her being more than that one tired trope and getting character moments that explore motivation or feelings beyond "alluring cat burglar" would not "take a characteristic away." That makes no sense and it's confusing how someone could reach that conclusion
I reached that conclusion because it's all about how she shouldn't be animated that way