I don't think that's what they meant. Qi'ra was also a big part of the Solo film. I think it's more that they had several big female characters recently introduced, so let's add a male this time.
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SW: Fallen Order's Protagonist is a guy because of Rey; no alien protag so people aren't "alienated"
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Yeah, there have been male Jedi characters during Star Wars movie runs (such as Kyle Katarn during the early 2000s).
Yeah, fuck this game. That logic is garbage.
What if - and here me out here, Stig - You made it a POC/Female/alien/Droid/Fucking anything else and used it's to show that even though it's different and not what you were expecting that character to look and sound like and thusly makes you feel uncomfortable and disconnected like you claim ("Oh heavens! Where is the middle-aged White guy with short hair from all the other games!? I am catching the vapors!"), you can still connect and appreciate what the character is with a story that is not hot garbage.
The resources for a framework of a story like that is literally all around you all the time.
This game is canned dog food for shitty people. Hard fucking pass.
He is boring and generic. When 99% of protagonists are white men.
We could have had the horse faced alien as the protagonist...
Disney won't even give us Beta Ray Bill in a Thor or GOTG movie
Fucking cowards
too bad that the singleplayer in BF2 was an after-thought and attached to what was primarily a multiplayer-only series.
EA made their last protag in Battlefront 2 a poc woman (only female playable non-player-created protag in any Star Wars game to date I believe) and put Satele Shan as a major character in SWTOR as an asian female jedi and featured her heavily in the marketing and that was one of the most expensive games they've ever made - they are actually usually quite good at this sort of thing, which is why this comment sounds so off, so I'm not sure it's an EA thing tbh.
being a love interest that turns evil is hardly a groundbreaking role for a female character in an action movie. and why is it ok to think of it like a fucking quota in the first place?
I haven't played Battlefront, but in that case, I suppose it really was a creative decision. Perhaps to avoid direct comparisons to Rey? But I think they could have done a female lead if they really wanted to.
Now, playing as yet another male protag isn't going to keep me from playing this one, but I also disagree with the rationale.
My experience and research on the subject informs me that it's a bunch of rich white suits sitting in an meeting room in front of a white board containing the words "16-34 old white males" circled.
When that much money is on the line and the executives are a bunch of wealthy (usually white) people, you end up with someone like that dude in Fallen Order.
But seriously, why is a black woman never an option when these things come up?
Which is a shame because that campaign could've been amazing. They just horribly botched it.
Which is a shame because that campaign could've been amazing. They just horribly botched it.
It's all up to the development team when it comes to main character design.
Speaking of which I like the main character design of JFO. I admire the semi-formal black cloak design and I know the actor attached to the MC is quite talented. His face is definitely more expressive than we often come to see in big budget releases.
Imagine being so closed-minded you wouldn't play as an alien. Sci-fi is all about escapism/wish fulfilment. As a "generic white guy" I see enough of myself in video games, really don't feel the need to "relate" to video game protags.
Why is it perfectly ok to keep referring to white males as generic and boring? I mean you're making negatives points based on their skin colour...
Because statistically, most stories have white straight male protagonists.
Excellent question since that seems to be the position everyone opposed to this new character is taking. "There's already too many white guys," etc.
They're thinking in terms of diversifying the recent additions to the franchise and making theirs stand out. There's been 3 female MCs in the past few years. So, they went male.
Now if you want to question why they chose to make them white, go for it. But as far as them being male goes? That makes perfect sense.
Then why post?
I mean, the immediate follow-up is "if this was your artistic vision, what about him being a straight white dude is required for that vision?"
Artists who release things for public consumption should know that critique is part of the craft. "It was my vision" isn't a magic phrase that gets you out of criticism.
His characters looks as he does irl . I've like this guy in everything he was in so I'm hoping his acting in this game is as good
There's been plenty of male MCs in those same movies - their excuse doesn't make perfect sense.
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Because white males are 95% of the leading characters in every major entry of your franchise.
Nobody is saying that white men are inherently generic, they're saying that because protagonists are disproportionately white men that each new additional one becomes more of the same, ergo generic and boring.
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if you're able to convince yourself that this is "diversifying", then congratulations. you will enjoy this corporate wokeness world.
You can't balance literally centuries of men being the focus of the majority of stories by switching to a 1:1 ratio. true balance would mean allowing women to dominate narratives for a time, and accepting that there's nothing wrong with that.
Anyways, I never expected that out of this industry or any other. This whole thing is just such a nakedly cowardly response. at least lie and say you're specifically excited about the character for one reason or another, not that their creation was literally reactionary.
And they had to make him as bland and generic as possible too I guess.
Unless it's a game about the characters from the movies or shows any SW game should have a create a character. Let me be a fucking Rodian goddamnit. Your original character probably sucks anyway.
Unless it's a game about the characters from the movies or shows any SW game should have a create a character. Let me be a fucking Rodian goddamnit. Your original character probably sucks anyway.
Or a blonde.
That's literally that actor's face.
Yeah I don't know about you, but putting generic mcface random boring white guy number 376 as the lead on their next big thing after BF2 flopped screams EA to me.
Really would have loved to play as a female alien though:
The Miraluka are a near-human race. And a Force-sensitive species that didn't have eyes. But instead, saw the environment around them through Force Sight.
A Twi'lek Jedi:
Star Wars has an incredibly rich and expansive lore that almost never gets to it's time to shine in games or movies. I don't mind the protagonist chosen by Respawn, but they certainly could have chosen something "less safe" than the white Male protagonist.
The Miraluka are a near-human race. And a Force-sensitive species that didn't have eyes. But instead, saw the environment around them through Force Sight.
A Twi'lek Jedi:
Star Wars has an incredibly rich and expansive lore that almost never gets to it's time to shine in games or movies. I don't mind the protagonist chosen by Respawn, but they certainly could have chosen something "less safe" than the white Male protagonist.
Should have used Samuel L. Jackson as the Jedi.
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Kidding... but they should leave the usual stereotyped main character. Star Wars has tons of opportunities to explore.
It should be a character creator in my humble opinion.
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Kidding... but they should leave the usual stereotyped main character. Star Wars has tons of opportunities to explore.
It should be a character creator in my humble opinion.
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The protagonist concept was likely solidified prior to BF2's debacle. I would guess it was decided around TFA's release
I have to agree to that. The protag has that fresh-faced clean-cut preppie schoolboy look that takes a lot to get around. Part of Luke's appeal was that he was not particularly handsome at all, which gives him a more humble and relatable quality overall and reinforces the idea that theoretically anyone for anywhere could have the potential to be a Jedi.
This guy just makes me hope he has more depth beneath that pretty boy exterior because he seems very boring so far.
But BF2 didn't flop and EA famously put a woman in the first main trailer of Battlefield V after Battlefront II so that doesn't make much sense - why blame EA when it's not EA saying it but a particular dev and there's no evidence that he didn't make the decision? We already know who made the comment unprompted and was a major part of the development process so I don't really feel like passing the buck just so gamers can have a pop at EA , EA certainly didn't make the dev come up with the bullshit excuse of there was already a female jedi protag and that's enough, did they?