Between Game Pass and Switch, I do not have enough time for all of these games.
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Surprise! Grandia HD Collection (1 and 2) on Switch launches on Aug 16th on the eShop
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Awesome! Physical media is a complete waste when you can get the exact same product digitally.
Just want to possibly clarify. I am the one who did the RPG Site E3 interview/demo. Basically, whenever they talk about the Saturn version, they say they are "working with" it, or using it as "a reference point". The direct quotes from them are in that image.
Interpret that however you want. I personally read it is as though they are not using the Saturn code base, but trying to somehow recreate the Saturn version visual benefits without actually basing the remaster off the Saturn version code.
...oh no. Grandia II looks fine, but the original looks terrible :(
Shipping plastic pieces all over the world when it can easily be distributed via the Internet is insane.
Yeah, I'm still going to get it but I thought we'd get a physical release for this.
User warned: thread derail
Yes. Let's not even try to slow down climate change.
Yes, I'm sure THIS is the game to raise this particularly salient argument against.
I remember hearing somewhere that their awful filter is actually baked into the sprites in this port, so it's not something that can be toggled on and off. If that's true, that's a HUGE fuckup. What a shame.
I never played these games so I hope these ports are decent because they seem like the easiest way to play them these days.
No physical is a bummer though
I never played these games so I hope these ports are decent because they seem like the easiest way to play them these days.
No physical is a bummer though
You've got to be joking
My point was that people need to stop hoping for physical copies and stop buying physical copies altogether. Every game that doesn't get a physical release is a good thing.
Servers farms are on 24/7 to keep your digital games always online. Even if you downloaded just once - servers still burning energy every second.
Absolutely. Ships and airplanes still do more damage. Plus the actual production.
However, I probably shouldn't have derailed the thread that abruptly.
5 years old. I can't access the report, so it's pointless.
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"Statement about physical not being an option is a good thing r.e. climate change"
"We should also ignore peer reviewed work that shows that is not necessarily the case"
Uh, so who do you actually trust when it comes to how much things contribute to climate change?
still not sure if I should grab it on Switch or wait for the PC port for the fan mod support
Chrono Trigger PC all over again, if true.
Some people like to actually own a copy of the thing they're buying, rather than have a digital version that could be taken away at any point to due any number of reasons. See the Ducktales thread for an example of this shit happening.
Anyway let's not turn this into yet another physical v digital discussion, it's been done to death.
This thread took a turn for the strange.
Anyway, I'll be all over this on release provided it, isn't priced ridiculously.
Anyway, I'll be all over this on release provided it, isn't priced ridiculously.
On-Topic: There ARE too many games dropping O_o I do want to try these out because I've never heard of them prior to the announcement earlier this year.
I did listen to this song and knew I had to try them out sometime though. So bombastic!
Let's see what has happened since the report; which none of us even has read because it's behind a paywall. Google reached 100% renewable energy for their global operations in 2017. Microsoft is aiming for 60% in 2020 for their data centers, and that will keep going up. Having both physical shipping and digital releases at the same time is clearly not a good thing. We should focus on the one thing that we can improve, and that's digital. That's the all I'm going to say in this thread, because I have derailed it enough. If anyone want to say something to me, you can do so with PMs.
To return to the topic at hand, it's a shame they seem to have done a so-so job on Grandia 1 at least. Grandia 2 should be easier to make a good upgrade of since it's fully 3D.
Looks fine to me on a mobile phone, which is enough considering I'll be playing in handheld.
Infinitely better than the awful backgrounds in FFVII and IX.
HLTB stats (main game to main game + optional stuff):
Grandia 1: 44-59.5 hours
Grandia 2: 33.5-36 hours
So pretty standard JRPG lengths with Grandia 1 being the longer game.
Damn I don't think I have time for such long games. Maybe if I play just the second.
Hard pass. They didn't improve anything. The game is blurrier than the PS1 version now.
Im much more looking forward to an english version of the japanese saturn version (apparently people in the fan translation scene are working on it)
Im much more looking forward to an english version of the japanese saturn version (apparently people in the fan translation scene are working on it)
All the comments out of PAX were that 2 seemed very choppy on switch. Maybe Seda could comment if the E3 build was better?
Man that's disappointing, that's probably why they shadow drop this or something. I will still get 2 though just because I want to replay it again soon
Downloading a 50GB game has a larger environmental impact due to the network infrastructure and server farms than the entirety of the shipping, manufacturing, and disposal process of any individual game including account for the environmental impact of all the plastic used. Not to mention the social and consumer rights issues associated with not owning the media you are paying for. Full text is linked
And miss one of the best existing rpg ever.
That's sad.
However, I 100% understand the lack of time : /.
Gamexplain saw both build and had very positive thoughts on the E3 one while being extremely concerned at Pax last year.
I haven't played the Grandia games, but I think the length for PS1 games tend to be greater than should be thanks to loading times lmao
I hope this collection deliver, I really want to play those games since long time ago.
Is the first the better of the two?
Is it very grindy or are those 44 hours mostly story?
I've been dying to play a good jrpg on switch that runs/looks decently in handheld and isn't overwhelmingly long.
And for some reason this looks far more appealing to me than others like FFX, FFXII, Y's VIII - perhaps it's the old school look - and releases in a more convenient time than DQXI.
Checked the linked article and it's not that simple.
1 - They looked at the EU and said that in the US, manufacturing & transportation impact for a disc are estimated to be almost triple that of the EU meaning that the gap in the US is much smaller (and the break even point would be much higher than 1.3GB).
2 - The article is from 2010 and they said that it's estimated that energy efficiency of Internet traffic is predicted to double every 2 years.
3 - They also admitted that they were guessing on energy efficiency based on a single example since it's hard to get data on this.
So this study is very out-of-date by their own admission, but if their estimates are correct, the vast majority of games would have a lower impact with a digital download in the US (and not as many in the EU).
In any case, this is a bundle of a PS1/Saturn game and a Dreamcast/PS2 game. The PC version of Grandia 2 on Steam right now is about 2.5 GBs and Grandia 1 is only a two-disc game on PS1/Saturn. It's not going to be anywhere near 50 GBs and will probably be under 5 GBs.
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