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Surge of Anti-Asian hate crimes spurs communities to action (People's World article)
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No. I'm just stating that it discouraging when you realize no one gave a shit about the Asian community until people start attacking our elderly.
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Damn :(
abc7news.com
EXCLUSIVE: Former Bay Area gang member arrested after threatening to kill Asians online
The person was identified as Reginald Jackson, a felon with a lengthy rap sheet including attempted robbery as a minor and weapons charges including being in possession of an AR-15 assault rifle.
abc7news.com
The system makes it hard for people to see these things too. It purposefully covers them up. That plus white people's general apathy and fear of speaking about anything related to race, leads us to these awful situations.
The system needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. Us white people need to speak out against this, challenge our relatives/friends on their racist views, and we need to let Asian-Americans tell their stories.
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Yes, I agree, though I do think that white people are not the only culprits.
I don't mean to downplay or exaggerate anything when I say this, but when I got racist insults, for example, it came from a lot of whites and non-whites. Not saying that white supremacy isn't an issue, but of course, things aren't always so simple if you look beneath the surface. It's best to see things in their entirety so we can deal with these issues.
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I do wish that more people would face this issue, though I think this is partly to do with the fact that we're more of a "gaming forum" and even in politics our issues are kinda one-note or particular (rather than across the entirety of political issues). But otherwise, you're right. It does at least point to something, though I hope nobody thinks I'm calling them out; I could be wrong, after all.
It being a gaming forum isn't an excuse. If we can have vibrant topics about other issues, then this topic should be just as bustling because it's just as important.
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Yes, I completely agree, I hope that nobody misconstrues what I was saying (or perhaps I misspoke).
What makes this truly sad to me is the simple fact that racism is not hereditary. It is taught.
Is it that hard for folks to teach their kids that all people have feelings, all people have needs and wants, all people have opinions, and that no one person or group should be seen as more or lesser than any other?
Is it that hard for folks to teach their kids that all people have feelings, all people have needs and wants, all people have opinions, and that no one person or group should be seen as more or lesser than any other?
Anti-asian sentiment has a long and harsh history in the US and has been stoked recently, even pre-covid.
Those in power either in government, finance or media are complicit in their inaction or, in some cases, their role in fanning these flames of hate for their own benifit.
Times like this I wish there was an afterlife so those commiting these hate crimes against elders could burn in hell.
Those in power either in government, finance or media are complicit in their inaction or, in some cases, their role in fanning these flames of hate for their own benifit.
Times like this I wish there was an afterlife so those commiting these hate crimes against elders could burn in hell.
Yeah, it's been bad for a while
I've mostly been able to avoid it, thankfully. But I've had friends who've experienced it over the past year
I've mostly been able to avoid it, thankfully. But I've had friends who've experienced it over the past year
Being a gaming forum has nothing to do with it IMO. There's plenty of other topics on this regarding other marginalized groups that get traction, depending on how trendy the topic is.
It's just that ERA in general cares more about our games and cartoons more than they care about our people.
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For the record, I should say that I'm sorry if I came off as wrong-headed for saying that this being a gaming forum would contribute to a lack of consideration and attention to anti-Asian racism; we've obviously contributed and discussed other topics here before. My bad. I take it back. We should definitely discuss this issue no matter what, imho.
This is really sad. Especially considering many victims are elderly people. I'm not a violent person but I wish I could beat the shit out of those racist cowards.
Yup. There's a sense that people are kinda acting like the media has always cared about BLM and civil rights when that's not true at all? People had to be brutally beaten and killed on camera for decades before anyone gave a shit. And we only got to cultural permanence in 2020 and that was because black activists did the work in their community by themselves for so long.
Thankfully now allyship is more common but asians will likely have to build a movement with strong in-community beliefs about how to move forward around anti racism efforts in order to gain cultural permanence as well. 80% of the black community believes that the police are systematically racist to black people. That took decades of community building and activism to even get there in even just our community.
I certainly wish it could be easier but such is America.
Part of the issue with Asian American communities is the hatred within it. Most of it is dying out with the first generation immigrants, but it's still there. The hate between Vietnamese and Chinese alone is fucking absurd when racists don't know the difference nor care to either way. Then you have the Asian Americans whose minds are warped into believing they're the model minority and would sooner identify with white people than their own.
Would been nice if the staff didn't ban several of the most outspoken Asian voices on this forum right before and during the Asian-Era meeting.
Make no mistake, this forum has had an issue with anti-Asian bias since its inception. And now most of the people fighting it are gone.
Get out of here with this Asian-on-Asian victim blaming bullshit.
This is not part of the issue here.
I don't know why these threads never gain traction. Probably for a lot of reasons.
I'm not sure how many Asian people (let's say east Asian for these particular issues) are on this site. I know there have been complaints about this, and I'm sure people are tired, especially when they see threads like this and feel no one cares.
I feel this site is used to black and white issues, and it doesn't necessarily do those amazingly(no site really does). Racial threads tend to cause frustrations and expose ignorance, so adding Asians to the mix probably turns people off because it would make things even more nuanced. I'm sure if this thread took off, there'd be tons of ignorance and perhaps bigotry but that's kind of unavoidable. I hope people would be forced to learn and accept perspectives that make them a bit uncomfortable.
I'm not sure how many Asian people (let's say east Asian for these particular issues) are on this site. I know there have been complaints about this, and I'm sure people are tired, especially when they see threads like this and feel no one cares.
I feel this site is used to black and white issues, and it doesn't necessarily do those amazingly(no site really does). Racial threads tend to cause frustrations and expose ignorance, so adding Asians to the mix probably turns people off because it would make things even more nuanced. I'm sure if this thread took off, there'd be tons of ignorance and perhaps bigotry but that's kind of unavoidable. I hope people would be forced to learn and accept perspectives that make them a bit uncomfortable.
Why were they banned?
I mean I think most rational peeps know Era isn't much different from Neogaf in terms of racism, maybe peeps on Era just don't like to admit it. Used to be in a group chat of mostly white era posters, and the amount of asian racism shit in the chat is just...well not really shocked I guess.
The post was in context of Asian communities gathering to form a movement against this. There was a post before mine regarding the importance of forming a movement. This post:
The different Asian communities in a lot of cases are very isolated from one another and choose to be that way. It was not victim blaming those who were attacked. and I should have quoted said post. It is a bad habit of mine.
It's not only in the US, chinese and other asian people got a lot of hate over the Covid-19 pandemic here in Italy as well.
A friend of mine kept telling me little kids and teenagers were passing past her giggling and shouting at her, ans her parents restaurant saw a huge dip (above the normal dip other restaurants experience) because some people are biased.
A friend of mine kept telling me little kids and teenagers were passing past her giggling and shouting at her, ans her parents restaurant saw a huge dip (above the normal dip other restaurants experience) because some people are biased.
Not to mention, this thread created so we can actually have a centralized point of dialog seems to be just as ignored on the board.
People are shoving their heads in the sand.
I prefer not to go over it on this forum , there's probably other asians, and asian american posters that feel the same. I chat with my friends and there's Asian american insta/social that has alot of discussion and news
I'm sure and I don't blame anyone in the slightest for not wanting to try to have discussions here.
The lack of participation in both is related I think, just like it's related to the lack of significant media attention overall.
Asian is a very big place, in fact it's the largest continent. And each asian countries have different cultures. Even countries that share borders, they are far from alike or even like each others.
Why this type of threads open I always ask myself, is it about me? Am I the asian they are talking about? Is it a good idea to speak for other asian members?
Why this type of threads open I always ask myself, is it about me? Am I the asian they are talking about? Is it a good idea to speak for other asian members?
In the case of the article linked in the OP, the context of "Asians" is diaspora Asians in countries where the hegemony are "racially" (skin color) different.
So, if you're of Asian descent/ethnicity, living in a predominantly Asian country where you are also the hegemony, then no, they are not talking about your problems and they are most likely not attempting to speak for you, because you are not the victim here.
Not only in Italy, but recently a group of Japanese citizens were hit by three attackers in France. One victim got burns from hydrochloride acid on their hands. However, the victim wouldn't report it or put in a complaint to the Paris police. While the Police are looking into it, since no formal complaint was reported apparently there's not much they can do. Japan put out a warning to travelers now about being more careful in Paris. Wasn't clear if the victims were living in Paris, or just visiting.
This seems to be a thing running around Europe as well.
Vancouver has had a huge rise in the last year of harrassment of Asian communities and individuals. A coffee shop by me had antimaskers harassing them and their employees acouple months ago.
I think so. Our most natural state is one of absolute tribalism, and you need to be taught ( by your family initially ) to respect others and recognise and resist racist ideas. Just as you need to be taught in school how to critically engage with media, how to critically think about politics and so on.
We need better public education, everywhere on this planet. Even the supposed "enlightened " West is pretty shit about this.
That's the thing, all I can do is listen.
Asian thread have very few post and some of its asking why only few posts. I want to think era members are good people. Era members read these articles and condem these crimes.
I'm Vietnamese, I almost have nothing worth to contribute. When I post (which likely never in asian thread because 90% about asian-american) I have to be very careful not to be ignorant and out of my deep.
An uncle of mine is living in the US (Ohio I think?) for work, it worries me a bit to be honest.
I'm 500% sure this happens in Mexico too, since we're never short on both local and imported stupidity, but I was talking about this with my Japanese cousins recently and they told me they've yet to experience any anti-Asian attitudes (in Mexico City at least).
I'm 500% sure this happens in Mexico too, since we're never short on both local and imported stupidity, but I was talking about this with my Japanese cousins recently and they told me they've yet to experience any anti-Asian attitudes (in Mexico City at least).
Well~ there was a topic on the gaming forum, that had a asian poster saying they shouldn't generalize asian and lump it all.
Some of the resposne was, they aren't racist, when they use a country and such, and also what about white on white racist, and they can't be racist toward asian, because China and Japan are economic super power, and that racism is only in US< so other Asian country poster shouldn't say anything.
I think due to the model minority myth and how some Asian groups are economically better off than most other minorities, there's a notion that our issues aren't real. Because of this, we seem to occupy this weird space where we're kind of an out group for everyone, and because of that, we generally face a different type of racism that's often less overt but still systemic and pervasive.
It gets tiring trying to talk about your issues when you feel no one ever listens or cares, and over time you just stop.
It gets tiring trying to talk about your issues when you feel no one ever listens or cares, and over time you just stop.
When I heard of the news that a Filipino got slashed on the face, and another one got knee'd to death, I'm sad that it didn't gained much news other than the local ones here.
And knowing America, I can't even see if they would get the justice that they deserve.
And knowing America, I can't even see if they would get the justice that they deserve.
Reading about the black death in Europe and the subsequent hunt of Jewish people as a scapegoat for the plague, this shit feels like we're walking in fucking circles... for 700 years...
Fuck this racist bullshit. And fuck the right wing people for shit like "China Virus" and "Kung Flu".
Fuck this racist bullshit. And fuck the right wing people for shit like "China Virus" and "Kung Flu".
This isn't strictly a matter of white supremacy. People of color can easily be bigoted towards other people of color. Black people were behind many of these attacks on Asian American people, and plenty of Asian Americans can be racist towards Black Americans, and so on.
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Folks, another incident like this...
www.wavy.com
City resident says Virginia Beach police failed in missing grandmother case
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (WAVY) — One week ago on Tuesday, 76-year-old Shu Jin Wu, a woman with a cognitive impairment who did not speak English, wandered away from her home in the 1500 block of G…
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Not just in the US btw
Hate crimes up 97% overall in Vancouver last year, anti-Asian hate crimes up 717%
A report to be presented to Vancouver's police board on Thursday reiterates what officers warned the public earlier in 2020: hate crime incidents have increased in the city.
bc.ctvnews.ca
I want to just talk about the divide between asian communities here in the US. It's kind of a american perspective to lump all asian people together where sometimes the idea of specifically 'asian' diaspora seems to be stronger in the minds of non-asians than it is asians, speaking more about asians that are first generation immigrants. East asians don't speak the same language, they don't have the same culture, they just look somewhat similar so they are discriminated against in the same way. I mean, I would hope that asians in the US could naturally form some sort of one political bloc that could be easy for one of the political parties to pander to, but I think the building of political power has to happen with each community individually.
Surprise surprise. I appreciate that OP trying to create an open nuanced discussion about the topic, but this place remains a trash fire to have any sort of real conversation about the matter.