It's worse than that. You will have to let your company know that you are having an abortion. It's really none of their business.
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It's worse than that. You will have to let your company know that you are having an abortion. It's really none of their business.
This is happening because Hillary wasn't "inspiring" enough.
You were all warned about this in 2016. We told you what was at stake. It was taken for granted. Much like Ukraine, people refuse to see what they are seeing until it's too late.
My fault for being unclear I guess. I'm not mocking anyone for voting - just the collective for voting for the dipshits that they do. Like vote for better people who actually want to do something instead of this.
It was never going to. No one should have expected it to. Roe being overturned is a result of the 2016 election, not the 2020 one.
Her being on the bench is not a net positive?
Ok, well you'll have to explain that because it makes no sense.
I personally do not believe in abortions, I would never want my wife or GF to get one. But I strongly believe in all women having the right to decide what they do with their own body. This is a horrible decision. And Thomas is a shitty fucking justice.
Here's a good reminder:
The SCOTUS literally cannot enforce their rulings. There is no enforcement body within the judicial branch.
We just do what they say because reasons.
The SCOTUS literally cannot enforce their rulings. There is no enforcement body within the judicial branch.
We just do what they say because reasons.
Yet with Hillary the vast majority of Bernie voters turned out for her. Centrist independents were the ones who didn't turn out for her.
Green party saw the highest vote it had received in a long time.
Voting is like breathing. You don't just do it once.
It has no impact on our current conditions because the court is still majority right-wing. I'm not against KBJ being on the court at all, but how did this make things better exactly?
The way to push back that line of thought would've been for rights and protections to be enshrined, and for gerrymandering and voter suppression to be curtailed, when establishment Democrats had power.
This was a 50 year long haul in the making and the people I elect were either too blindsided, too powerless, or too fucking stupid to protect me and other folks affected by this ruling, which is literally the only thing I vote for Democrats for, by the way. Harm reduction. Protection. These capitalistic crackers are not about to actually give minorities the autonomy and reparations we are owed. And yet we're all just sitting here in a daze wondering "how could this happen?"
Fact is, America is a neoliberal hellhole that, if it chooses, will make my Black, NB-ass life worse regardless of how I vote. I make no bones about the fact that this country is and always has been fucking rigged against my existence and I'm tired as fuck of getting told that the way to stop this is to vote in numbers that are increasingly impossible year after year.
Like Biden literally got the most votes in the history of this miserable country's existence. So what the fuck? We do vote. We're still getting fucked.
This is how everyone should behave. Believe what you want but don't force your opinion on anyone.
One of our political reporters pretty much said "If all those Jill Stein voters up north had filled in Hillary we wouldn't be here right now."
What about negotiations for legal abortions nationwide - but with a reduced limit down to around 15 weeks?
Recently it was based on viability of the foetus to survive outside of the womb which is like 24 weeks, but obviously it's more developed.
This all started up again because Mississippi tried to get it down to 15 weeks but the clinic was allowing 16 right? It probably had earlier roots.
Recently it was based on viability of the foetus to survive outside of the womb which is like 24 weeks, but obviously it's more developed.
This all started up again because Mississippi tried to get it down to 15 weeks but the clinic was allowing 16 right? It probably had earlier roots.
I swear this shitty and demonstrably false bernie bro narrative will never die. The left reliably does the right thing that's exactly why it's so easy to ignore such voters.
This keeps getting posted and for good reasons too. Can OP add this to the original post?
This might matter when it's a ruling that "outlaws" something, but it doesn't matter in this case because the ruling is "those red states can go ahead and ban abortions now". And those red state governments WANT to. So there isn't anything to "enforce" it's just the people in those states no longer having access to abortions because those governments were just waiting until SCOTUS said "go ahead".
By the one branch of government the people don't vote for and serves for life.
Hindsight 20/20 but that was a bad structural decision.
The Supreme Court said today that the American citizenry -- especially women -- have no rights. You don't have any rights if they can take any of them away from you.
I'm hoping the frogs realize the water is boiling before it is all too far gone.
I'm hoping the frogs realize the water is boiling before it is all too far gone.
Try reconciling christian and conservative. It's the same bat-shit rationalization.
Exactly. Voting won't do anything. These Democrats aren't on our side, either.
If anyone doesn't believe me, then watch these videos.
What we need are political movements like civil resistance, civil disobedience, mass general strikes, community solidarity building & mutual aid. Just protesting won't do shit, either.
It's so weird that as a Canadian I always felt kinda close to the USA but man these days it feels like an odd country from another dimension.
There are over 20 states that are enforcing this ruling right now as we speak.
Lasting progress typically takes more than just one election and the resulting 1.5 years but you can't possibly believe it only made things way worse
And this was literally this year.
What good has voting Democrats gotten us? Like, I literally don't even entertain this question irl anymore, it's that beyond
why should we negotiate with the party that basically wants to enslave women as breeding factories?
you give fascists an inch and they will take literally everything you have
The discussion was about harm reduction. Your statement was that the 2020 election made things way worse. That was my response. Getting the first Black woman on the Supreme Court is not a small thing that has zero impact.
I could also list bills that the 117th congress has passed, some of which we actually needed.
We also empowered a government that was actually prepared and willing to deal with the pandemic that the previous government did next to nothing about.
There's also the small yet kind of important fact that it kept Trump from maintaining power.
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This is really the only recourse, whether the public is up for it or not *shrug*
Hillary winning would have most likely delayed this happening as she wouldn't have had Congress, rendering her a dead duck.
As a brown European who voted for macron to reduce harm only to have his surrogates call the fascists constructive and refer to a regular demsoc party as an extremist far left party. I get you comrade.
Isn't the alternative no abortions for anyone in half of America?
Abortion was outlawed today exclusively in states controlled by Republicans. Turns out voting for Dems did something in the other states.
Voting takes a few hours per year and is not mutually exclusive with any of the other direct action you outlined. It is harm reduction meant to minimize catastrophe while we work on structural changes.
Absolutely monstrous. Nobody should break bread with those who wanted this ever again.
Stuff like this is important to keep in mind whenever people say things like "leave X state to rot/fuck that state"
We just can't realistically do that
First of all that's a stupid idea. Second of all even if it wasn't a stupid idea, it would be impossible anyway.
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Wrong. This is happening because racist whites keep voting in lock-step because their hatred is infinite. But somehow the onus is on us minorities, the working poor, or the left to have an indomitable will at all costs.
White people need to hold themselves accountable.
I was there in PoliGAF when this shit went down. The Hillary crew that were so confident of her win straight up disappeared the following morning.
People need to learn this in this thread. They act like voting is the ONLY thing and want to dismiss it. Playing right into the GOP hands, voting is just the first step in an ensemble of actions at your disposal.
It's barreling towards facism, but it's not because of a majority. Wins in key areas can shut it all down in it's tracks. So yes voting can still help.
Doomsaying that voting doesn't matter and won't change anything meanwhile accomplishes exactly squat.
This was baked in before 2020 elections. Sto being dense.
I've been telling everybody this for the longest time on this forum, but people want to keep shutting me down.
Bruh, Democrats in Congress & everywhere else don't care about anyone but themselves, dark money & insider trading that they get from rich, corporate donors & lobbyists. They work with them & Republicans behind closed doors.
If they truly cared about our rights, they would've started with Roe V. Wade a long time ago starting with Carter.
And this:
Just proves my point further.
Thank you!
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