Does this Melee image count? You can't see a canyon, but it looks similar.
If so, that canyon has been in 4 out of 5 Smash games.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DT13 | News, Site Updates, and Speculation | Reawaken the Undying Hype
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Does this Melee image count? You can't see a canyon, but it looks similar.
If so, that canyon has been in 4 out of 5 Smash games.
Presumably Link Between Worlds, because that came out in the middle of Smash 4's development.
The brawl/ultimate cliff side is clearly meant to invoke this image so I would say yes, absolutely.Does this Melee image count? You can't see a canyon, but it looks similar.
If so, that canyon has been in 4 out of 5 Smash games.
Kid icarus characters new to be canon
Zelda characters ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Disappointing if true, we already have 2 remixes of the same ALTTP song...
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According to Vaanrose, he said that it's easier and cheaper to make barren wastelands and cliffs than making another kind of environment. I completely can see that and it make sense since it have been around for three-four iterations.
And mopinks is right. Melee opening is E3 announcement trailer.
And mopinks is right. Melee opening is E3 announcement trailer.
I misread the 19 as 10 and got confused about the timeline for a second#SmashBros countdown! It's interesting that they actually made full-fledged CGI trailer for Mii Fighters to used only for a commercial Do you like the concept of Mii Fighter? did you use it? #SmashBrosUltimate
Different tangent but I wonder how many Brawl stages they could simply make if they allocated all the SSE stage budget to that. (Brawl gave us plenty of new stages but it's a fun thing to think about)
It could be from ALBW ("Death Mountain" alone doesn't give us a lto to go on here), but release timing wouldn't mean much for it. It already had 3 tracks in Smash 4
Smash likes to play itself up as faux-serious. Like it is incredibly goofy but it takes its goofyness very seriously.
Gritty barren canyon/cliff sides make all the colorful characters and their actiosn pop more, is I'm guessing the idea.
Torna isn't long at all. You can beat it about 20-25 hours, if you have that kind of time.
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interviews/#/wii/ssbb/3/0
SSE as a whole was basically making an entirely separate game and I'm guessing Brawl was budgeted accordingly to accommodate it.
It made a bunch of stages
8 unique bosses
the sticker power up system probably needed time to go through and balance out each one
they had to change up the physics and properties of some characters
Maybe it's not literally like making Brawl twice, but it was probably a considerable undertaking in terms of development time & money.
I know the cutscene quote is taken on face value a lot, but I think SSE 2 was never going to happen in Smash 4 regardless due to literally making a second game. And even with WoL we're seeing a central compromise in progress.
which is all to say if they got exactly that amount of time & money and could apply it to the rest of the game (& wasn't given in a lump sum where X amount was to be spent on SSE specifically) it could have been "a lot, probably"
#SmashBros countdown! It's interesting that they actually made full-fledged CGI trailer for Mii Fighters to used only for a commercial Do you like the concept of Mii Fighter? did you use it? #SmashBrosUltimate
I like Mii swordsman just for the discus
I'm making a Mii fighter Amiibo for my brother right now for Xmas. 3D printing the head to look like his and then using the FP fighter to train it up with his face on both!
honestly, I think Ultimate hitting 69 fighters and 103 stages is probably because they're not dumping budget on a second game or SSE
it's been noted that each additional fighter is harder to add than the last and the workload is exponential due to balancing concerns, and even with most of the stages returning from previous entries, they've all been heavily reworked as opposed to being straight ports
it's been noted that each additional fighter is harder to add than the last and the workload is exponential due to balancing concerns, and even with most of the stages returning from previous entries, they've all been heavily reworked as opposed to being straight ports
and i mean, trophies were decided to be cut ealier on just for more development to be put elsewhere
I bet the same thing applies to Stage Builder, Target Blast/Test/Whatever
Spirits probably had so much put into it because they could reuse it for a collection aspect, eqipment, Spirits Board and World of LIght. Spirits as a whole effectively replaces the Event mode and Special/Crazy orders
Makes me wonder, if they were to continue the "Ultimate" formula the next game (ie having everyone back again), would they have way more room to make more new stages given there isn't many stages to rework?
Probably depends on a lot of different factors. Porting still takes a fair amount of work, by Sakurai's own admission and then you need to account for the team assembled, the system being ported to, will they still need to give touch ups to all the stages, are there engine issues they have to retest and so on.
I mained Mii Brawler. In fact I've been making a bunch of new Mii and then going to go through the laborious process of moving them all to the Switch to populate my system.#SmashBros countdown! It's interesting that they actually made full-fledged CGI trailer for Mii Fighters to used only for a commercial Do you like the concept of Mii Fighter? did you use it? #SmashBrosUltimate
Also never seen that particular Mii advert before. Only the AKB48 one.
I didn't see that trailer either, or at least I don't remember it. The mirror thing is fun. I wish I came up with that one myself.
I wouldn't mind having another Death Mountain song since ALBW's soundtrack is aces, but do we know for sure Hidden Mountain and Forest wasn't renamed?
(Where did that name come from, anyway?)
Are you thinking of Dark World?
(Where did that name come from, anyway?)
Are you thinking of Dark World?
It's not renamed, I believe people already found the name left untouched.
And they made a huge deal about Abe Lincoln being able to fight Ice T and Elijah Wood...and then blocked them from online because Hitler ruins absolutely everything.
I can kinda see this argument being applied to Break the Targets, even though I still disagree (it's linear to number of characters, while balance is quadratic). But Stage Builder really should be doable, unless of course they just don't have a good idea what to do with it.
It's unfortunate how character customization in general was piled up as one of the big new defining features of Smash 4, only for it all to turn out so poorly to the point where they didn't even bother giving the DLC characters custom moves
I guarantee you that Stage Builder is more complex to build than it appears, especially if they want to make it good
#SmashBros countdown! It's interesting that they actually made full-fledged CGI trailer for Mii Fighters to used only for a commercial Do you like the concept of Mii Fighter? did you use it? #SmashBrosUltimate
Mii Fighters were awful in Smash 4 but I'm hoping that Gunner is fun at least in Ultimate. Normalized height/weight and actually being able to use them online gives me some hope.
Are there any good videos taking a look at Palutena or Dedede in Ultimate? I've found stuff for pretty much everyone else I'm interested in playing but for whatever reason those two just don't seem to be getting any love. Even if they're still not hugely improved I'd just like to know what's going on with them.
Palutena's changes seem pretty significant and I think she's worth a look due to that
Palutena's changes seem pretty significant and I think she's worth a look due to that
Brawl's Stage Builder mostly cribbed from SSE assets, which is why they had so much available. I doubt that would exist without SSE.
Anyone else thinking there's probably a hidden character in the base game? From memory (because google was no help) wasn't there at least one hidden in every game? I remember Duck Hunt from 4, I think Nes and Luigi were secret characters.... and I think maybe Young Link in Melee??
If there is a hidden character what do you guys think it'll be?
I think its weird that theres a stage and an assist trophy/boss for Monster Hunter but no character..... UNLESS THERE IS! :O What if in World of Light you are fighting rathalos getting your butt whooped, and then MH decends from on high and destroys it :D
If there is a hidden character what do you guys think it'll be?
I think its weird that theres a stage and an assist trophy/boss for Monster Hunter but no character..... UNLESS THERE IS! :O What if in World of Light you are fighting rathalos getting your butt whooped, and then MH decends from on high and destroys it :D
There are no hidden characters in the base game. Sakurai said during the August Direct that everyone was being revealed before launch, and emphasized that everyone in the base game has been revealed after Ken and Incineroar were revealed.
They usually kept a few secret for launch day, but this time around they've been very upfront about every character being announced before launch. I don't think there's anyone else hiding in the game.
Sakurai specifically said this time that he was revealing everyone before launch, unlike with the previous games.
In any case though, hidden characters were generally just veterans, clones, the obligatory new classic character and then only two or even one new character beyond the retro addition.
Don't know about Palutena, but Dedede got a few buffs. This video goes over them nicely.
100% Gordo stick is the big one.
There's no stage.
Just for the boss fight in World of Light, but there's no MH stage where you can fight against other players.
And even then it was probably still a developmental effort to make, like, the actual builder.
The Smash 4, as piddly as it was, probably also took its fair share just because of the touch screen thing. Imagine how many things you would have to test to verify it's working properly in how it generates, how it functions as a stage, how it interacts with items, how it interacts with the touch screen in genearl and so on.
If Monster Hunter were a secret character, surely they wouldn't have shown the MonHun content prior to release.
I mean they still had to create that background. I find it really odd it's there without a stage associated with it, if they could've just used, idk, Gaur Plains or something as a background for Rathalos.
I mean they still had to create that background. I find it really odd it's there without a stage associated with it, if they could've just used, idk, Gaur Plains or something as a background for Rathalos.
I don't think it took that much work. It looks like they just ported a lot of stuff from MH4U/Gen/GenU.
I don't really understand wanting a generic Monster Hunter as a character. Aren't the monsters the real stars anyway?
Check out videos of Monster Hunter in Marvel Infinite. She's one of the few things that game gets right.
oh rad, thanks! Yeah this is super nice to see. just having the character functioning properly and getting some small buffs like the gordo stick makes a big difference in viability even casually.
Hopefully someone's working on a Palutena video somewhere
Anyone else think Smash Bros was maybe meant to launch last week? It would have made sense based on the last direct timing (why leave a month between the last big blowout and launch?) and to get it out before Black Friday. Feels like it got bumped back from some earlier planned date.
Hunters are really cool though. They have interesting armor, crazy weapons, a lot of fun moves, and so on. I think there is a pretty big character focus in the series in addition to the monsters.
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