Mickey Mouse is just as much as, if not more so, a "gaming icon" as Goku. 😆
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 8 | Complete. Global. Deconfirmation.
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Mickey Mouse is just as much as, if not more so, a "gaming icon" as Goku. 😆
A sword that shoots fire is not the same as a fire sword.
Also Rex has his weapon switching mechanic and visually, his attacks are simply more interesting imo.
Mickey has been in more than four good games so he's already ahead of Goku.
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Back on that reused asset thing, technically Fatmonice is right, tho not how he intends.
Many characters reuse Small or even big amount of moves. Ness shared stuff from Mario & Falcon from Samus in 64. Wolf Still has his old idle pose from Brawl when using certain items. Didn't they discover Little Mac in Smash 4 had 1 frame of Captain Falcon idle animation after latter climbing. And if I recall, Piranha Plant was code from Bowser Jr, and it is oddly speculated Banjo & Kazooie were made from Ridley's base.
So yes, there is asset reuse. But as in they could literally just take any ingame Smash non-fighter model and use those to create a fighter? Umm
Well tbh, the only character I might believe this somewhat happened is Chrom. I very likely believe Chrom only made it in due to a model existing already via Robin Final Smash. I dont remember Final Smash vs Fighter Chrom model comparisons and how different they are.
Many characters reuse Small or even big amount of moves. Ness shared stuff from Mario & Falcon from Samus in 64. Wolf Still has his old idle pose from Brawl when using certain items. Didn't they discover Little Mac in Smash 4 had 1 frame of Captain Falcon idle animation after latter climbing. And if I recall, Piranha Plant was code from Bowser Jr, and it is oddly speculated Banjo & Kazooie were made from Ridley's base.
So yes, there is asset reuse. But as in they could literally just take any ingame Smash non-fighter model and use those to create a fighter? Umm
Well tbh, the only character I might believe this somewhat happened is Chrom. I very likely believe Chrom only made it in due to a model existing already via Robin Final Smash. I dont remember Final Smash vs Fighter Chrom model comparisons and how different they are.
You know, KOS-MOS may have gone back to sleep for now, but we still have Rex and Pyra/Mythra!
As much as I love KOS-MOS, Rex and Pyra/Mythra just make much more sense as one of the next fighters.
I still think there's a chance they slipped into the #5 spot too.
Let's see what the New Year brings us!
As much as I love KOS-MOS, Rex and Pyra/Mythra just make much more sense as one of the next fighters.
I still think there's a chance they slipped into the #5 spot too.
Let's see what the New Year brings us!
It's not the Wii U model although there are some similarities in the low poly areas.
Keep the dream alive brother!You know, KOS-MOS may have gone back to sleep for now, but we still have Rex and Pyra/Mythra!
As much as I love KOS-MOS, Rex and Pyra/Mythra just make much more sense as one of the next fighters.
I still think there's a chance they slipped into the #5 spot too.
Let's see what the New Year brings us!
I was referring to Ultimate's Robin's Final Smash Chrom Model.
Unless they didn't update that one at all?
Didn't Bethesda literally confirm in 2018 that they were in talks with Nintendo about Smash?
It doesn't guarentee anything, but even if Spirit event were to happen I wouldn't be surprised in that case.
It doesn't guarentee anything, but even if Spirit event were to happen I wouldn't be surprised in that case.
Talks could just be Pete Hines calling up NoA about a Commander Keen Mii Costume and getting an answering machine.
OK, probably not, but the point is that talks could mean just about anything.
Wether or not anything comes out of it, they confirmed they had talks.
So Skyrim or Doom or Spirits or Mii Costumes or nothing wouldn't be surprising for me.
What is surprising is that this specific thing seems to be less talked about than some other things lol
So Skyrim or Doom or Spirits or Mii Costumes or nothing wouldn't be surprising for me.
What is surprising is that this specific thing seems to be less talked about than some other things lol
Here's that full Pete Hines interview by the way:
So that suggest to me that it's more than the vague, general "yeah we talk with Nintendo all the time about stuff" before - like an actual conversation about including characters that he was plugged into. Whether that was a two-way conversation and not just giving them a pitch and getting a "maybe" in response, though, who can say.
I think we know for a fact Ubisoft has had "please put Rayman in Smash" conversations with Nintendo, and it clearly didn't get very far.
So that suggest to me that it's more than the vague, general "yeah we talk with Nintendo all the time about stuff" before - like an actual conversation about including characters that he was plugged into. Whether that was a two-way conversation and not just giving them a pitch and getting a "maybe" in response, though, who can say.
I think we know for a fact Ubisoft has had "please put Rayman in Smash" conversations with Nintendo, and it clearly didn't get very far.
Until Reimu gets in.
Joker Echo Confirmed
smallest hitbox in the game
Hynes: "Can we have something in Smash?"
Nintendo: "How did you get in here?"
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I have to work on New Years so I'll be sleeping early today. Happy New Year from California!
Nope. It's from Avatar: The Last Airbender. Does it look like someone from SoA? I never finished it.
Honestly I bet Tracer was planned as DLC #5 in Smash. But then the player asking to support for Hong Kong thing happened. So they moved onto something else instead hoping for the whole situation to cool down.
By the time the Hong Kong thing happened, Tracer would have been well into development. Too far in to cancel.
Very doubtful. If Tracer was Challenger Pack 5, they would be too far along to suddenly scrap their plans and include someone else instead.
Besides, Nintendo is still promoting the Overwatch port, and they're even working with Tencent themselves; it's unfortunate to say that they probably wouldn't have a problem with including an Activision Blizzard character.
Doesn't matter, suddenly substituting in a different character for Challenger Pack 5 means the exact same thing from a development standpoint; if that's what you're meaning to say here.
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Yeah, kinda. She was an elder of the village but I might have misremember since it has been long time ever since I played that game.
Well, Tracer or Overwatch isn't under Bethesda. Just want to point it out.
As someone who used to push for Tracer, the whole ordeal regarding Activision Blizzard & Hong Kong soured me on her, Crash, Spyro, & the other characters they own.
With that said, Nintendo doesn't seem to care all that much, so I doubt it'll impact their or Sakurai's decision. It would just feel weird if she or Crash got in at this point.
With that said, Nintendo doesn't seem to care all that much, so I doubt it'll impact their or Sakurai's decision. It would just feel weird if she or Crash got in at this point.
Oh blizzard/Bethesda's. Mentally mixed them together, my bad.
I doubt if they were somehow chosen it even affecting any decisions by Nintendo or Sakurai's team.
Considering it took Nintendo all of two weeks to go full force with Overwatch Switch advertisements and I've seen big Overwatch Switch banners in some GameStops recently too, Nintendo straight up doesn't care and accurately predicted they could just take a step back down until the fervor died down.
Crash is more of the kid who got an evil step dad than anything else, so I don't think he really deserves to be punished for Blizzard's fuck-ups too. Especially since I can't imagine Crash Bandicoot in Smash would even generate that much revenue in comparison to what Activision Blizzard makes literally everywhere else in the industry with COD, Blizzard content, etc. I mean, sure, he'd sell and that would result in benefits for Activision Blizzard, but a Smash character is probably the closest you can get to a morally responsible "support" of the company considering how little money is probably going back to Activision Blizzard at the end of the day.
But as you said, Activision Blizzard would still benefit (similar to Sugiyama benefiting from Hero's inclusion). If anything, Joker has it better since Hashino doesn't directly benefit from Joker's inclusion.
Part of me wants Fighter #5 to be a Sakurai invention to see the internet get really pissed off about it
Am I a bad person
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a brand new character? a tease for upcoming new franchise? or Someone like Medusa or Hades?
I mean, again, basically pocket change to a company that rakes in billions year over year and most of that probably going to Nintendo since it's their game. It's why I don't find Joker or Hero problematic because by the time all is said and done, I'm contributing less to them than I would buying bottled water or something of the sort (not that I buy bottled water outside of an occasional necessity, but that's the point, it's a tiny one time transaction that so minimally supports the problem parties in the first place, and it's not even in their own product to begin with).
I don't know, there are battles I feel we have to pick when it comes to this stuff as to what I'm willing to more consciously consume in the gaming industry and what I'm not. Smash seems like the kind of thing where those issues can be largely negated or at the very least mitigated due to the way the process works of licensing characters out and giving them over to more upstanding people.
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If it comes with very unique and wacky moveset that no one could offer those kind of gameplay then I'm all for it.
I would honestly love it if Sakurai was like, "DLC character 5 is the protagonist of my next game"
(well, as long as the character is a WOC haha)
(well, as long as the character is a WOC haha)
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