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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 3 | Seeking Answers to the Un-Bear-able Quest-ions!
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I don't really care if it can stand toe to toe. Like, what really matters? That they make interesting, new games, or that every franchise has to eat more of the triple-AAA budget pie?
ARMS is pretty much an equal effort on the level of Splatoon, it's just limited by its genre really. It's too hardcore by nature and yet not hardcore enough.
I doubt that ARMS will be the only successful new IP from Nintendo between now & the next Smash game. If Astral Chain succeeds, there's another potential character for the next game right there with Akira.
I still have this dread that the orchestrated music in Hero's trailer was just for the trailer and in-game this is what we get
I got so excited over Bill's "Xenoblade characters" mixup.
And then after the Music Theory fiasco it became really clear it wasn't happening.
God, the less I'm reminded of Brock destroying every conversation with the Music Theory, the better.
You mean the "verified music rule?"
Yeah was real glad when that shit was stopped.
F-Zero gets 3, Star Fox gets 0.
I also don't get how Kid Icarus did not get a single new song
All true, but do you think Sakurai would even want to work with Square Enix again after how difficult and restrictive they were with Cloud (a whole two songs for Midgar, no FF or FF VII spirits or trophies beyond Cloud and AC Cloud, an apparently awful approval process, etc.)?
Then again, he already has worked with them again through Hero, so perhaps the possibility of a third Square character (which I do think would have to be Sora if anyone) isn't off the table. I think the how on the table this possibility actually is will be influenced by the nature of Hero's presence in Smash. If it's barebones like Cloud, then I'd say Sora's chances are pretty bleak. But if DQ gets proper musical and spirit representation, then there may yet be some hope...
But even if we're lucky enough for all of the above to work in Sora's favor, there's still the impossibly high hurdle of getting Disney to even play ball... but then again, if there's a single person in the world who could ever successfully negotiate Sora's inclusion with Disney, it's Sakurai.
God, how hype that would be...
I think he wanted to cool off adding KI stuff this time around considering the onslaught of content it got last time.
Poor Magnus didn't even come back, despite being an AT in the previous game.
Yep. Easily the single most obnoxious thing to come out of the pre-release Smash discussion that had nothing to do with the Grinch.
A breakdown for those not steeped in The Music
MARIO: ~34 new rips, 6 new remixes
DONKEY KONG: 3 new rips, 5 new remixes
ZELDA: 3 rips, 9 new remixes
METROID: 4 rips, 3 remixes
YOSHI: 1 remix
KIRBY: 9 rips, 2 remixes, 1 refashioning of the retro medley for my music purposes
STAR FOX: 3 rips
POKEMON: 8 remixes
FZERO: 8 rips (all from the snes game), 3 remixes
FIRE EMBLEM: 4 rips, 10 remixes. Also another 3 rips from the FE songs in Codename steam
EARTHBOUND: 2 remixes (both of songs already remixed)
PIKMIN: 4 rips, 2 remixes
METAL GEAR: 1 rip, 2 remixes
ANIMAL CROSSING: 1 rip, 3 remixes
RETRO: 4 remixes (3 of which already had remixes...)
WII FIT: 2 rips, 2 remixes
XENOBLADE: 3 rips
MODERN-ISH: ~19 rips, 8 remixes
MEGA MAN: 4 rips, 17 remixes
STREET FIGHTER: 2 remixes and 30 rips (not counting the pinch themes)
SONIC: 3 rips
"PACMAN": 3 remixes (retro medlies)
WARIO, KID ICARUS, PUNCH-OUT, FINAL FANTASY, BAYONETTA: Absolutely nothing at all
The only verified rule is the verified, vindicated, victorious, validated box rule.
How does one pronounce "Theatrhythm" and wtf does it mean?
I've never played the games btw
Don't worry, the actual Dragon Quest tracks we're getting are all remixes using the Sonic Chronicles soundfont.
It's a combination of Theater and Rhythm, so say them as one word.
Sakurai needs to do what Netflix won't and give us Fly Me to the Moon.
Alright unless I missed someone you're probably talking about Elizabeth from Bioshock Infinite, right? In that case, she's got no chance, Bioshock's never been on a Nintendo console.
I won't lie, the entire reason I was on board with Music Theory early on was that it was one of the last things giving me hope for Elma.
As it happens, this just crossed my mind today. Sugiyama be damned, that Adventure orchestral was godly and I'd love to have it.
Omg this makes so much more sense
I had written it off as a dumb Square Enix made up title word for so long. Didn't even try to understand it til now haha
I was definitely on board with music theory for a while there just because they seemed to be going with different franchises each week and they went out of their way to delay the animal crossing remix to coincide with Isabelle.
When the rerun series started up, though, I started going with the only real music theory being that they save a song to go with the newcomer
Punch Out needs a rip or two from the NES game
Not enough chip tune rips in Smash Bros
You know, I've been thinking about the whole "how well does it sell in Japan" thing with Smash. And a thought came to me.
I know Nintendo has commented on series being in Smash getting sales boosts. And how we've all agreed that while Dragon Quest is definetely for Japan, it's also to help boost sales in the west.
So my question is, why can't that tactic be used in Japan? Like, say they put Crash in hypothetically. Why couldn't a reason be to help boost sales in Japan and get another third party franchise regularly being released on Nintendo systems in Japan?
I know Nintendo has commented on series being in Smash getting sales boosts. And how we've all agreed that while Dragon Quest is definetely for Japan, it's also to help boost sales in the west.
So my question is, why can't that tactic be used in Japan? Like, say they put Crash in hypothetically. Why couldn't a reason be to help boost sales in Japan and get another third party franchise regularly being released on Nintendo systems in Japan?
addendum: please have these be all new remixes and not a remix of a song already remixed
Addendum unclear, adding three new remixes of Lost in Thoughts All Alone and DK Island Swing.
"Music theory deconfirms Incineroar!"
It's a numbers game. It's more meaningful to try to reach audiences outside of Japan than within. Most western developers probably don't really care if their games are popular in Japan as it's not that big compared to America, Europe, and other territories. Outside of Crash and Minecraft, very few western franchises have found meaningful success in Japan. The opposite isn't true.
It's a numbers game. It's more meaningful to try to reach audiences outside of Japan than within. Most western developers probably don't really care if their games are popular in Japan as it's not that big compared to America, Europe, and other territories. Outside of Crash and Minecraft, very few western franchises have found meaningful success in Japan. The opposite isn't true.
just off the top of my head the following got remixed again: Big Blue, Brinstar Depths, Fourside, Magicant, Light Plane, Duck Hunt Medley, Wrecking Crew Medley, Bath Time, Life on the Island (BY THE SAME GUY), Wild World's Title theme, Pikmin's main theme, Lost in Thoughts All Alone
There might be one or two others, it's maddening
There might be one or two others, it's maddening
By some miracle Ultiamte is the only time they did not ad a new Island Swing
Theatre and Rhythm spliced together
btw Theatrhythm Dragon Quest is like 20 bucks in Play Asia
No problem with that reasoning. That's basically how I feel about the fe crew honestly.
How did they not just put the ARMS theme in the game at all? How?
You know it's funny looking back at old promotional stuff for Crash. Art and commercials liked to paint him as rude or edgy, but in the games themselves Crash has never been anything but a giant goofball.
It's baffling! You already added spirits, costumes and an assist at least get rr14_arms_maintheme.lopus in there
It's such a good song, too. Would have been so awesome on the Punch-Out stage.
Considering Punch-Out has a whopping ~*five songs*~ total it honestly should have been in the "other" category like Ice Climbers and such are.
pilotwings has more songs than punch-out
As a kid the ads having Crash shit on Mario and Sonic made me not wanna play the games lol. I was like "who the hell does this guy think he is?!"
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