My parents would know Digimon more than Tamagotchi, but that's probably because my sister and I loved the anime
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 3 | Seeking Answers to the Un-Bear-able Quest-ions!
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We still have a Digimon beach towel from 20 years ago. I was obsessed as a kid.
I do think the fact that Digimon's legacy as a video game series is minimal at best is what would keep it out of Smash.
I don't think Tamagotchi is an obstacle for Digimon. If anything, it helps. Digimon is literally just "what if we made Tamagachi fight each other?" Agumon could count as a representative for virtual pets generally.Digimon's biggest obsticle in Tamagotchi - same company, much bigger name.
Ask your parents if they remember the virtual pet Tamagotchi vs the virtual pet Digimon. Heck, some people act surprised when they learn Digimon didn't start life as an anime.
Heck, Memetchi is like a mascot for Bandai.
To go along with companion theory, Memetchi could be in Agumon's taunt.
And I agree 100%, I think now that both halves of Square Enix have a rep, the Bandai side of Bandai Namco needs some love, and Tamagatchi/Digimon is arguably their biggest multimedia success story.
Because Light Plane is good enough to be remixed again.
i feel the same way. I feel like Sakurai would be interested in translating the FPS genre into a Smash fighter, and Doom Slayer is the best choice for that.
I wonder if they would even have Doom Eternal stuff in the moveset.
If it sold well, we would definitely know. That's how Japanese game sales work.
Not that it matters anyway, only Japanese polls I've seen (I don't even remember where they were from) had Crash doing well. I'm pretty sure 1 poll had him #1 or #2 behind Sora.
Still think Master Chief would be the "best choice" to represent the FPS genre in Smash since his source material is inherently less violent and more cartoonish and he's more famous,, but if Sakurai managed to tone down Doom Slayer in a way that made sense, I would be hype to see him as well.
Then again, Sakurai has referred to Carmack as the "King of the FSP genre", so I feel like he would go with an id Software character to represent the genre.
Plus Banjo already took the Microsoft rep slot on the Fighters Pass.
With the overwhelmingly positive reaction to the first three Fighters Pass characters in Japan, it would be weird if they suddenly brought out a Literally Who from their perspective.
Not that it's impossible or unlikely. It would just be weird. I'd love to read their reactions after the fact.
Not that it's impossible or unlikely. It would just be weird. I'd love to read their reactions after the fact.
The ~10k Japanese people that bought DOOM 2016 will be overjoyed.
They are using Smash to sell Dragon Quest to the West.
Sell Doom to Japan by click-baiting them a heavily toned down Doom Slayer.
I actually have been thinking that western third parties will be the big "gimmick" of the next Smash game.
This idea that Sakurai fulfills quotas when choosing Smash characters is a bit pretentious, imo.
No? The original Banjo-Kazooie was decently popular in Japan (it sold in the range of Persona 5, if you want to argue that Joker is a "Japanese pick") and they were commonly requested Smash characters. The reaction to Banjo in Japan was largely positive.
At least Dragon Quest has had some million sellers in the west. I don't think any Halo game hit even 100k in Japan.
Well I certainly didn't suggest that. I was talking about Sakurai's feelings about the roster. Not any arbitrary # of slots dedicated to X region.
I think Master Chief would garner much bigger reactions than Steve, Banjo or any other Microsoft character. Not saying that's why he should be in, though.
I'm not sure if I can see Master Chief getting in. Like, Banjo-Kazooie is one thing, because they're classic Nintendo characters, and even Steve/Alex might be in the cards since Minecraft is everywhere. But Master Chief is sort of a symbol of Xbox and its flagship title and at the end of the day, Nintendo and Microsoft are competitors. BotW2 and Halo Infinite are probably going to go head-to-head as late-2020 prestige titles for their respective platforms. That's a little bit different from the relationship Nintendo has with Banjo-Kazooie or Steve/Alex.
Of course, this could all change if, say, Master Chief Collection comes out on Switch.
Of course, this could all change if, say, Master Chief Collection comes out on Switch.
Halo is extremely popular in Japan.
Hah, I'm aware. I thought Halo had sold less than that, honestly.
Say this happens (as people have been speculating). What happens then?
Did Spencer say that Microsoft and Nintendo aren't competitors or was that fan conjecture?
I do agree that Dovahkiin would be one of the very few western reps I could see getting in, and a Kirby Fus Ro Dah would be dope as shit, but it's still nothing next to the idea of Doomguy in Smash.
Thought there was a rumor pointing to another Metal Gear rep before I went back a page :(
They do actually.
It's not debatable that they originated with these, and it's no less viable than Game and Watch.
- Heihachi or Yoshimitsu (For Tekken/Soulcalibur)
- Yuri or Lloyd (For Tales Of)
- Agumon (For Digimon)
- Kos-Mos (Not really for Xenosaga, but just because she is a widely used crossover character and the Monolithsoft/Nintendo connection).
It's interesting that third-parties have become the dominant new franchises represented in Smash over the course of three installments.
Brawl - 4 Nintendo, 2 guest (Nintendo dominance)
For - 5 Nintendo, 5 guest (equal)
Ultimate - 1 Nintendo, 4 guest (third-party dominance)
Brawl - 4 Nintendo, 2 guest (Nintendo dominance)
For - 5 Nintendo, 5 guest (equal)
Ultimate - 1 Nintendo, 4 guest (third-party dominance)
To be fair, this is partly on Nintendo for not investing as much in new IP and instead continuing to reuse the same franchises. It is also partly on the fact that there weren't originally third party characters in the series, and plenty that so belong in the game now that its expanded to be a "Video game all stars" versus just a "Nintendo all stars" kind of game. It's only natural third parties should dominate in terms of new franchise additions because they're playing catch up.
That's what happens when there just aren't enough new major new Nintendo IPs or characters to make use of.
Sakurai's never going to utilize stuff like Wonderful 101 or Chibi-Robo! for playable characters, so outside of the occasional Splatoon, third parties are the future of Smash, pretty much.
I would consider Master Chief to be somewhat more likely, since he would be a multi-platform character with Nintendo games and less of a symbol of a competing console? I'm not really sure what you're asking, here, I mean I already said that MCC Switch would potentially change my opinion on his chances.
If Only You Were More Iconic - An Elegy
I dub thee the list of characters that are great but are probably too small-time to get in Smash, based on my pessimism.
It is known.
I dub thee the list of characters that are great but are probably too small-time to get in Smash, based on my pessimism.
Agumon
Phoenix Wright, compared to other Capcom characters
Spyro, compared to Crash
Klonoa
Lip
KOS-MOS
Amaterasu
It is known.
I still think Sakurai just couldn't figure out how to make a rhythm based character in Smash fun and functional.
Like, remember the last time we had a rhythm based attack in Smash?
Yeah, it was awful lol
There should definitely be a stage and/or an AT, though
It sucked because of the range which is nothing to do with the rhythm aspect. Never had any problem hitting perfects.I still think Sakurai just couldn't figure out how to make a rhythm based character in Smash fun and functional.
Like, remember the last time we had a rhythm based attack in Smash?
Yeah, it was awful lol
There should definitely be a stage and/or an AT, though
It should have also ended with "DON-KEY KON-GA HUH!"
Sshhh; let me dream.
Wright is ERA's official most-wanted Capcom rep (and has the closest connection to Nintendo), so i'd beg to differ on that one.
It's good that you consider The Prince of All Cosmos big enough to avoid being on this list though!
I would die for Phoenix in Smash (but not actually, because then I wouldn't be able to enjoy Phoenix in Smash), but I see a lot going against him. There's the assumption that we're getting another Capcom character in the first place.
This is primarily due to the fact that Nintendo still doesn't fully value the creation of major new IPs as much as their legacy franchises.
I know there's like a 0.01% chance this will ever happen (and that .01 is entirely due to Cloud getting in), but my last remaining dream character is Sora and I'll hold out the slightest bit of hope for him until Nintendo confirms that DLC has concluded for Smash Ultimate... which, unrealistically, I hope they never do.
That said, even if Sora never happens (and he won't in all likelihood because of the Disney factor as well as Square Enix apparently being awful to work with), I could never, ever complain because a) Sakurai is a goddamn miracle worker whom we do not deserve and b) I already got my two other dream characters in Mega Man and Banjo-Kazooie. I'm more than content with that.
That said, even if Sora never happens (and he won't in all likelihood because of the Disney factor as well as Square Enix apparently being awful to work with), I could never, ever complain because a) Sakurai is a goddamn miracle worker whom we do not deserve and b) I already got my two other dream characters in Mega Man and Banjo-Kazooie. I'm more than content with that.
I'll take Phoenix Wright just for his music.
I like the original Ace Attorney trilogy but Phoenix has never really interested me as a Smash fighter. If Sakurai can make him cool and fun though then sure why not.
There's only a few characters in play (Phoenix, Leon/Jill, Crash, Dante, maybe Sora) that would elicit more than a "oh neat" reaction from me, but I already got my cereal mascot and I'm sure the last two fighters will be as excellent as the first three.
The point is... Capcom has so many cool characters. Please do not stick us with a generic Monster Hunter, Sakurai, or if you do, at LEAST make it default to female.
I like the original Ace Attorney trilogy but Phoenix has never really interested me as a Smash fighter. If Sakurai can make him cool and fun though then sure why not.
There's only a few characters in play (Phoenix, Leon/Jill, Crash, Dante, maybe Sora) that would elicit more than a "oh neat" reaction from me, but I already got my cereal mascot and I'm sure the last two fighters will be as excellent as the first three.
The point is... Capcom has so many cool characters. Please do not stick us with a generic Monster Hunter, Sakurai, or if you do, at LEAST make it default to female.
I still wonder if Heihachi appearing in Pac-Man's taunt has any bearings on his chances at being DLC.
It's a pretty minor and small cameo, but you'd think if Heihachi was coming later, they'd try to scrub all references to him in the base game. Persona, Dragon Quest and Banjo-Kazooie are nowhere to be seen, after all.
It's a pretty minor and small cameo, but you'd think if Heihachi was coming later, they'd try to scrub all references to him in the base game. Persona, Dragon Quest and Banjo-Kazooie are nowhere to be seen, after all.
It obviously doesn't disconfirm HeihachiI still wonder if Heihachi appearing in Pac-Man's taunt has any bearings on his chances at being DLC.
It's a pretty minor and small cameo, but you'd think if Heihachi was coming later, they'd try to scrub all references to him in the base game. Persona, Dragon Quest and Banjo-Kazooie are nowhere to be seen, after all.
because The Prince of All Cosmos is also part of that taunt and they will definitely be playable!
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