Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 18 | Smash? Gongaga

[Apopheniac]

Which makes it more weird that they are reluctant to bring more of their games to the Switch.

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what else do they have to bring that's going to run on the Switch? Their new Soulcalibur and Tekken are probably not going to work on the hardware, at least to a level their players would want, and I'm skeptical that there's much demand for the older ones

 

[Strat]

Bandai Namco just doesn't have many franchises worth putting in Smash. Dark Souls? Tekken? Tales of? Meh.

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[Giga Man]

Since we have Green Hill and Windy Hill for Classic era and Modern era respectively, let's get Egg Carrier for the Dreamcast era.

 

[Deleted member 63122]

what else do they have to bring that's going to run on the Switch? Their new Soulcalibur and Tekken are probably not going to work on the hardware, at least to a level their players would want, and I'm skeptical that there's much demand for the older ones

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That new game that looks like Astral Chain could run on Switch, if they really wanted it.

 

[jtmmachine]

Here's an interesting question: what would Eggman's Final Smash be?

I ask because there's a lot of directions they could go in. The Death Egg Robot, the Death Egg itself, the Egg Carrier, the Egg Dragoon, even something like a cinematic involving Perfect Chaos.

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With Ultimate's love of villains firing giant lasers, I think it'd be something like

Eggman using the Big Arm mech from Sonic 3 to uppercut opponents to the moon, where the Death Egg or Space Colony ARK fires a laser which blows it up

Don't ask how this would work on Luigi's Mansion.

 

[Neoxon]

I also vote for Egg Carrier for Eggman's stage to rep the Dreamcast Era.

 

[batfax]

Sure would be nice if SEGA got another fighter before the end of their 60th anniversary and perhaps it was from one of their oldest ongoing series, with the latest iteration coming next year with a NIntendo Switch release.

 

[Metto]

I see a lot of people putting their vote for Egg Carrier but the more I think about it the more I would adore Egg Fleet. Heroes is the series' first time going full multi plat so that counts for something and having all sorts of Eggman ships in the background moving around would be cool. Plus it has probably one of the most raw intros for a level

 

[louisacommie]

Echo the dolphin

 

[Neoxon]

With Sephiroth opening the door to secondary characters in existing franchises, I thought I should bring this back for the main two candidates I've seen discussed the most. I've also added a new song for each of them, changed one of the SF spirits, & changed Eggman's stage.

• Option 1
  • CHARACTER: Chun-Li
  • STAGE: Bustling Side Street (Street Fighter V)
  • SPIRITS(Just the new ones)
    1. Chun-Li (Fighter)
    2. Rose
    3. Alex
    4. Gill
    5. Makoto
    6. Rashid
    7. Menat
    8. Ed
    9. G
    10. Akira Kazama
  • MUSIC
    1. Bustling Side Street [Street Fighter V]
       • The last stock (or last half of the timer) would initiate the alternate version, with the critical part playing when it's last stock & high damage (or the last 30 seconds).
    2. Chun-Li's Stage [Street Fighter II] (Remix)
    3. Chun-Li's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    4. Gen's Theme [Street Fighter IV]
    5. Cammy's Theme [Ultra Street Fighter II]
    6. Akuma's Theme [Super Street Fighter II Turbo]
    7. Rose's Theme [Street Fighter Alpha 2]
    8. Birdie's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    9. Dan's Theme [Street Fighter Alpha 2]
    10. Sakura's Theme [Street Fighter Alpha 2]
    11. Kasugano Residence [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
        • This goes into the critical version of the song if you're on the final stock, much like the existing SF tracks.
    12. Charlie Nash's Theme [Street Fighter Alpha 2]
    13. Guy's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV]
    14. Cody's Theme [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
    15. Karin's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    16. Rainbow Mika's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    17. Ibuki's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    18. Yun's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition]
    19. Dudley's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV]
    20. Gill's Theme [Street Fighter V: Champion Edition]
    21. Jazzy NYC '99 [Street Fighter III: Third Strike]
    22. Beats in My Head [Street Fighter III: Third Strike]
    23. Crazy Chili Dog [Street Fighter III: Third Strike]
    24. Longshoresman [Street Fighter III: Third Strike]
    25. Makoto's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV]
    26. China Vox [Street Fighter III: Third Strike]
    27. Crimson Viper's Theme [Street Fighter IV]
    28. Abel's Theme [Street Fighter IV]
    29. Volcanic Rim (Theme for Street Fighter IV) [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
    30. Juri's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV]
    31. Oni's Theme [Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition]
    32. Rashid's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    33. Laura's Theme (Cinematic Story Mode) [Street Fighter V]
    34. F.A.N.G's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    35. Ryu's Theme (Cinematic Story Mode) [Street Fighter V]
    36. Skies of Honor [Street Fighter V]
        • Same gimmick as Bustling Side Street where the music changes as the match goes on, since both songs have multiple phases.
    37. Menat's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    38. Ed's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    39. Zeku's Theme [Street Fighter V]
    40. Falke's Theme [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
    41. G's Theme [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
    42. Lucia's Theme [Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition]
    43. Atsui Kodou [Rival Schools]
    44. At the Riverbed in Front of Evil High School (Akira Kazama's Theme) [Rival Schools]
    45. Batsu's Theme [Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Cross Generation of Heroes]
    46. Mike Haggar's Theme [Saturday Night Slam Masters]
    47. Captain Commando's Theme [Marvel vs. Capcom]
    48. Strider Hiryu's Theme [Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3]
• Option 2
  • CHARACTER: Dr. Eggman
  • STAGE: Egg Fleet (Sonic Heroes)
  • SPIRITS(Just the new ones)
    1. Dr. Eggman (Fighter)
    2. Egg Pawn
    3. The Deadly Six
    4. Egg Dragoon
    5. Perfect Chaos
    6. Death Egg Robot
    7. Wisps
    8. Hard Boiled Heavies
    9. Mighty the Armadillo
    10. Ray the Flying Squirrel
  • MUSIC (Yes, these are the full versions of each song)
    1. E.G.G.M.A.N. [Sonic Adventure 2]
    2. Egg Fleet [Sonic Heroes]
    3. Death Egg Robot [Sonic Generations]
    4. Big Arm [Sonic Generations]
    5. Perfect Chaos (Open Your Heart) [Sonic Generations]
    6. Metal Sonic (Stardust Speedway - Bad Future, JP) [Sonic Generations]
    7. Metal Sonic (Stardust Speedway - Bad Future, US) [Sonic Generations]
    8. Crimson Carnival - Day [Sonic Unleashed]
    9. Dragon Road - Day [Sonic Unleashed]
    10. Savannah Citadel - Day [Sonic Unleashed]
    11. Skyscraper Scamper - Day [Sonic Unleashed]
    12. Endless Possibilities [Sonic Unleashed]
    13. Reach for the Stars [Sonic Colors]
    14. Tropical Resort - Act 1 [Sonic Colors]
    15. Planet Wisp - Act 1 [Sonic Colors]
    16. Dragon Dance [Sonic Lost World]
    17. The Deadly Six Theme [Sonic Lost World]
    18. Dr. Eggman Showdown [Sonic Lost World]
    19. Crisis City - Act 2/Modern [Sonic Generations]
    20. Kingdom Valley [Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]
    21. His World [Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]
    22. Dreams of an Absolution [Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]
    23. All Hail Shadow [Sonic the Hedgehog 2006]
    24. Flying Battery - Act 1 [Sonic Mania]
    25. Hydrocity - Act 2 [Sonic Mania]
    26. Press Garden - Act 2 [Sonic Mania]
    27. Mirage Saloon - Act 2 [Sonic Mania]
    28. Lava Reef - Act 1 [Sonic Mania]
    29. Metallic Madness - Act 1 [Sonic Mania]
    30. Green Light Ride [Team Sonic Racing]
    31. Wisp Circuit [Team Sonic Racing]
    32. Boo's House [Team Sonic Racing]
    33. Sand Road [Team Sonic Racing]
    34. Sky Road [Team Sonic Racing]
    35. Emerald Coast - Act 1/Classic [Sonic Generations]
    36. Speed Highway - Act 1/Classic [Sonic Generations]
    37. Crank the Heat Up!! (Final Egg) [Sonic Adventure]
    38. It Doesn't Matter [Sonic Adventure 2]
    39. That's the Way I Like It (Metal Harbor) [Sonic Adventure 2]
    40. Seaside Hill - Act 2/Modern [Sonic Generations]
    41. Mystic Mansion [Sonic Heroes]
    42. Egg Emperor [Sonic Generations]
    43. What I'm Made Of [Sonic Heroes]
    44. End of the Summer [Sonic Runners]
    45. Leaf Forest [Mario & Sonic at the Sochi 2014 Olympic Winter Games]
    46. Un-Gravitify [Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity]
    47. Catch Me If You Can [Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity]
    48. Free (Crush 40 Version) [Sonic Free Riders]

 

[Mekanos]

I'll throw in my hat with Egg Carrier as Eggman's stage.



If he gets added to the base game of the next Smash though, I assume he won't get a stage, like K. Rool and Ridley didn't this time.

 

[Garrod Ran]

Egg Carrier with Crazy Robo would be great

 

[Apopheniac]

That new game that looks like Astral Chain could run on Switch, if they really wanted it.

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I'm not familiar with that, so I'll take your word for it. But I would disagree that Bandai-Namco doesn't support the Switch, at least any less than other major publishers

 

[Neoxon]

I see a lot of people putting their vote for Egg Carrier but the more I think about it the more I would adore Egg Fleet. Heroes is the series' first time going full multi plat so that counts for something and having all sorts of Eggman ships in the background moving around would be cool. Plus it has probably one of the most raw intros for a level

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I now change my vote to Egg Fleet.

 

[Giga Man]

I see a lot of people putting their vote for Egg Carrier but the more I think about it the more I would adore Egg Fleet. Heroes is the series' first time going full multi plat so that counts for something and having all sorts of Eggman ships in the background moving around would be cool. Plus it has probably one of the most raw intros for a level

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I'm OK with that too. I even mention it in my long post!

 

[cdyhybrid]

Eighteen discussion threads in and people still subscribe to "rules" that Sakurai has never even hinted were actual things, incredible

After everything we have seen from this game

 

[Weiss]

Remember when Sonic Generations repped Heroes with another Green Hill instead of Egg Fleet

That's how you know it's a bad game

 

[Strat]

Eighteen discussion threads in and people still subscribe to "rules" that Sakurai has never even hinted were actual things, incredible

After everything we have seen from this game

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If they haven't learned at this point, they never will.

 

[Horohorohoro]

Rules are silly

 

[L Thammy]

I make it a point to learn as little as possible.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Japan would go nuts for Dragonlord to be fair

 

[Strat]

Remember when Sonic Generations repped Heroes with another Green Hill instead of Egg Fleet

That's how you know it's a bad game

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Implying you need anything more than the name "Sonic" on it somewhere.

 

[TheGamingNewsGuy]

Someday we'll get a rematch

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Oh how i wish

 

[L Thammy]

Japan would go nuts for Dragonlord to be fair

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Wouldn't they go for, like, Psaro?

 

[Weiss]

Implying you need anything more than the name "Sonic" on it somewhere.

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I like that game a lot but melting the series down to such a pure experience came with the tradeoff of having a three hour game where both playstyles only have nine levels apiece.

That'd be fine enough since a short fun game is preferable to a long boring one, but then they made Forces which was both short and boring.

 

[MondoMega]

Implying you need anything more than the name "Sonic" on it somewhere.

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Get with the times old man; you're in Era's Official Sonic Discussion Thread right now.

 

[Nocturnowl]

A From Software rep would be pretty easy.

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Pick your response

Spoiler: A

This isn't Echo Night!

Spoiler: B

Daemon X Machina already has spirits though

Eggman would also come with the Eggman base aesthetic like how Sephiroth has Northern Crater.

Actually what would be a cool Eggman stage? I think something to callback to the 2000's era Sonic would be cool. Like spanning from Egg Carrier to Egg Fleet/Final Fortress. We already have Green Hill and Windy Hill representing the classic and modern era

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Sakurai's law of first stages will bring us Palmtree Panic Bad Future, you can never truly escape the hills aesthetic.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Wouldn't they go for, like, Psaro?

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Dragonlord and Zoma are the most iconic "Evil Kings" in the series. You can still see references to Dragonlord even today in anime and manga.

 

[NeonZ]

what else do they have to bring that's going to run on the Switch? Their new Soulcalibur and Tekken are probably not going to work on the hardware, at least to a level their players would want, and I'm skeptical that there's much demand for the older ones

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Would Soulcalibur really be a problem? It reuses so many assets from SC4 and 5 it's hard to believe it's a taxing game.

 

[Sawyer]

Dragonlord is something you sneak into the base roster. Idk how hot of a DLC character he would be.

 

[TheDinoman]

Remember when the vast bulk of Generations' levels were city levels

 

[LinkStrikesBack]

Remember when Sonic Generations repped Heroes with another Green Hill instead of Egg Fleet

That's how you know it's a bad game

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Could be worse. The 3ds version , which has seven stages, picked five first zones from games.

And one of the other two was the second worlds.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Dragonlord is something you sneak into the base roster. Idk how hot of a DLC character he would be.

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If Fire Emblem keeps refusing to give us a Manakete then fuck it let Dragon Quest take its spot.

No, Corrin is some Kirin shit.

 

[Nocturnowl]

From the hills to the city, Sonic Generations is a chronological example of how one has to relocate to keep up with job prospects.

 

[L Thammy]

Dragonzord.

 

[Giga Man]

I'll throw in my hat with Egg Carrier as Eggman's stage.



If he gets added to the base game of the next Smash though, I assume he won't get a stage, like K. Rool and Ridley didn't this time.

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This theme gets me so hype. I had it constantly in my head while typing that long post.

Egg Carrier with Crazy Robo would be great

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Now I gotta post it!

 

[MondoMega]

Remember when the vast bulk of Generations' levels were city levels

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That's the result of them deciding the levels based on "best Sonic stages" polls.

 

[Strat]

Get with the times old man; you're in Era's Official Sonic Discussion Thread right now.

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It wouldn't be an Era thread without someone being a negative as possible. I've gotta do my part!

I like that game a lot but melting the series down to such a pure experience came with the tradeoff of having a three hour game where both playstyles only have nine levels apiece.

That'd be fine enough since a short fun game is preferable to a long boring one, but then they made Forces which was both short and boring.

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I haven't played Generations since it came out and sometimes I wonder if my memories of half of that game being good and the back half being total dogshit hold up at all.

 

[Deleted member 63122]

Would Soulcalibur really be a problem? It reuses so many assets from SC4 and 5 it's hard to believe it's a taxing game.

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Isn't MK11 a bigger game than SCVI?

 

[Lord Vatek]

I still say the best way to do a Dragon Quest villain is to make "Villain" and have it be Dragonlord, Zoma, Dhoulmagus, and either Psaro or Mordegon, depending on if they want to get rid of Psaro's sword and just have him use magic.

 

[Giga Man]

Dragonzord.

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Dragon Gundam

 

[Weiss]

Remember when the vast bulk of Generations' levels were city levels

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That too.

City Escape had to be there and Spagonia is at least different enough, but Crisis City and especially Speed Highway should have gotten the axe.

It wouldn't be an Era thread without someone being a negative as possible. I've gotta do my part!

I haven't played Generations since it came out and sometimes I wonder if my memories of half of that game being good and the back half being total dogshit hold up at all.

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The only level that wasn't any fun to me was Classic Planet Wisp since it takes like ten minutes to get through.

But that got me thinking about how much work goes into making these massive elaborate stages that, ideally, the player blows through in two minutes. If I were an environment designer on a Sonic game I'd be livid.

 

[Sawyer]

The only thing I hate about the "everyone is here" thing is the layout of the character select screen.

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Got this updated in time for the presentation on the 17th; Added a couple of characters were suggested to me in some other places too! Still.. impossible to cover everything 🐺 💦

let's see how the Mii Costumes addition will be affect this in the Sephiroth's showcase video

 

[Regulus Tera]

I still say the best way to do a Dragon Quest villain is to make "Villain" and have it be Dragonlord, Zoma, Dhoulmagus, and either Psaro or Mordegon, depending on if they want to get rid of Psaro's sword and just have him use magic.

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If they do a multiple characters in one spot thingy the term would probably be daimaou (大魔王) and whatever the equivalent is in English.

 

[Maximum Spider]

Why are you all talking about Smash?

 

[L Thammy]

Got this updated in time for the presentation on the 17th; Added a couple of characters were suggested to me in some other places too! Still.. impossible to cover everything 🐺 💦

let's see how the Mii Costumes addition will be affect this in the Sephiroth's showcase video

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I see a handsome green-eyed gentleman looking at me towards the bottom there.

 

[Nocturnowl]

Back half of Generations was one of those things that got better the more you played and learnt the stages, initially they felt a bit rough compared to previous stages but I think that was more just because the difficulty level kicked up, Rooftop Run and Crisis City are actually pretty great in Gens.
Meanwhile Modern City Escape is actually something of a nothing burger stage but everyone loves it because it's city escape or whatever.

That said the Planet Wisp finale was a bit naff and did Colours dirty, oh and the less said about time eater the better.

 

[NotLiquid]

For character 6 Sakurai will reveal Travis Touchdown and after the trailer Sakurai will go "Now I know some of you might have been thinking 'didn't he already have a Mii Costume? Shouldn't he not be elligible?' Well... who made up that rule?!"

 

[Regulus Tera]

I wasn't expecting much from Armada's reaction video, but this is even more disappointing than that.