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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 10 | Greetings SmashEra! Nothing to report!
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Speculation and actually engaging with the thing you get are two different kinds of fun.
Geno is one thing though; a Mario character. This is a series that will continue to get new characters in Smash cos it's that big and yet has used up most of its pool of main characters. If any series will have to rely on more obscure fodder, it's Mario.
The pedigree of being a Mario character probably does help Geno a lot tbh, even if he's just from one game.
Honestly I still think it'd be really weird if Geno was playable before Waluigi
Like I consider Ridley, K. Rool and Banjo more important than Waluigi because they're reoccuring villains or main protagonists, but for what it's worth, I consider Waluigi more important than Geno. They're both alike in that they're Mario characters that have only ever really appeared in non-mainline Mario titles, but to give Waluigi credit, he's appeared in nearly every spinoff since 2000, whereas Geno was only a party member in one game from twenty years ago, and the only thing he got afterwards was his lifeless husk appearing as a cameo in Mario & Luigi.
Like I consider Ridley, K. Rool and Banjo more important than Waluigi because they're reoccuring villains or main protagonists, but for what it's worth, I consider Waluigi more important than Geno. They're both alike in that they're Mario characters that have only ever really appeared in non-mainline Mario titles, but to give Waluigi credit, he's appeared in nearly every spinoff since 2000, whereas Geno was only a party member in one game from twenty years ago, and the only thing he got afterwards was his lifeless husk appearing as a cameo in Mario & Luigi.
With characters like K. Rool and Banjo, part of the intense speculation was wondering how they'd look in a modern game. (With Ridley, it was wondering how Sakurai would implement them.) I feel like there's some of that with Geno, but Geno is more inconsequential as a character so it feels more like of an "oh, neat" thing for me to see his design fully realized in Smash. Like, it'll be cool, but not this historic moment where a once famous and iconic character was brought back to life. Just this weird obscure spin-off character being put on a pedestal he had never been on before. It's a different effect.
Anyway, I played some matches earlier today with K. Rool. Still stoked he's in!
Anyway, I played some matches earlier today with K. Rool. Still stoked he's in!
Then again, Geno is more important in his one major appearance than Waluigi has ever been in any of his appearances. Also the last Mario character was Piranha Plant, so I think we can just toss out any "importance to the franchise" hierarchy here.
They'll both be playable eventually, so it really doesn't matter if Geno is getting in first.
Toadette is the only member of the "core" Mario cast to never make any physical appearance in Smash Bros
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Yoshi, Rosalina, Wario, Bowser, Bowser Jr, DK and Diddy are all playable, Waluigi is an Assist and Toad is part of Peach's/Daisy's moveset
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Daisy, Yoshi, Rosalina, Wario, Bowser, Bowser Jr, DK and Diddy are all playable, Waluigi is an Assist and Toad is part of Peach's/Daisy's moveset
Pauline says hi, though I guess she only recently joined the core cast.
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We got the Spirit so some negotiation had to occur.
If he's not playable then I think the costume is being held off for a rework with some music.
Pauline is literally in the New Donk stage. And one game makes you part of the core Mario cast now?
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Toadette is a Master Spirit in Ultimate at least, so while she doesn't physically appear, she still has a somewhat special role.
She's quickly showing up in sports games. But yeah, good point on New Donk City.
how is Pauline a member of the core cast? She's appeared in two spin off games which also features notable characters like Detective Baby Rosalina and blue Paratroopa
I don't even think she has the official "core art" character art?
Yeah, we know some negotiation had to occur. They already had to talk to them about Cloud (and we all sort of know how THAT almost went).
SE seemingly had no problem with letting Geno and Mallow appears as spirit. And Dragon Quest got a healthy amount of representation with the sole exception being the music, and that's more on Sugiyama's fuckery than SE themselves. It's only the Final Fantasy department that has been a collaborative blunder for Smash/Sakurai.
Geno to me feels like a character that Sakurai knows is popular, but just hasn't been able to prioritise. Because what would you go for, a 20 year old one-off Mario RPG party member or characters from two of the biggest historical franchises in the Japanese gaming industry (FF and DQ)? But now they're both out of the way, so who knows what they'll do now.
Geno's competition is now with...2B, I guess. I'd say Sora also, but he's really a Disney character, so I don't know.
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This is a good time to remind everyone that Sakurai isn't making the decisions for who gets in.
Neither is Rosalina, but she was considered a core character relatively quickly after Galaxy dropped.how is Pauline a member of the core cast? She's appeared in two spin off games which also features notable characters like Detective Baby Rosalina and blue Paratroopa
I don't even think she has the official "core art" character art?
I do think it's stupid how people decry Waluigi for being "just a meme" and then immediately turn around and ask for Geno.
Not saying anyone in this thread does that, but it's definitely a thing.
Not saying anyone in this thread does that, but it's definitely a thing.
My distaste for Geno could probably be more accurately described as genuine confusion. I'm just completely apathetic towards him. He's a one-off party member with practically nonexistent characterization, and I don't think he's even remotely cool looking enough to justify what his Smash fandom has become.
There are so many "Smash characters living normal lives, remembering their own past experiences but now they inhabit the same apartment block" webcomics that Nintendo could make a very profitable soap opera out of the concept
That or they could retool Tomodachi Life
That or they could retool Tomodachi Life
That's true.
But back in late 2018/early 2019, I didn't think the Nintendo suits would pick Banjo & Kazooie, either. So who knows?
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ENDLESS OF FORTNITE GIF IM TELLING YOU! I will always bring Fortnite to the discussion anytime and anywhere.
Search your inner feeling and know that it's true.
TO DENY THAT IS TO DENY YOUR VERY SOUL
We're clearly getting Birdo then.I don't even think she has the official "core art" character art?
I think it just comes down to if SE is willing to let Geno get in instead of trying to push for any other character they have. Sakurai wants him, but i don't feel Nintendo wants him enough to push for him if SE counter offers with someone bigger, regardless of who it is. Geno does nothing for SE compared to what else they could have, unless something SMRPG or Nintendo offers something in return. I don't see SE going with it to be nice to the fans. Not how they operate. You could say they like money, but they have plenty of other characters that would make more money and press.
Its really on Nintendo though. Dunno if they want anything else from SE at all atm unless Nier Automata or FF14 (pls no) came to Switch, which would be big. I don't see them wanting to deal with SE over a character unless its the big time when they could go for something else.
But hey i've been wrong before. Nintendo may surprise me
Its really on Nintendo though. Dunno if they want anything else from SE at all atm unless Nier Automata or FF14 (pls no) came to Switch, which would be big. I don't see them wanting to deal with SE over a character unless its the big time when they could go for something else.
But hey i've been wrong before. Nintendo may surprise me
Hypocrisy in Smash speculation? It's more likely than you think!
Maybe that one prediction video with Birdo was right all along!
I don't care too much about the character himself but now that he would come with a Super Mario RPG stage, I'd be pretty hyped.
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Maybe Steve taking the invite away from Geno and Waluigi and take the slot.
The Battles of Smash Meme.
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Honestly, I don't think there are any Geno meme. I always see Waluigi and Steve meme more frequently lately but Waluigi didn't really have any meme during Smash 4 or early Ultimate. The meme came forward after his disconfirmation.
It's more of obnoxious fanboys (but it's the normal for all fanbases.)
Isn't this comic drawn by a particularly notorious and extremely objectionable porn artist?
The best thing Geno has is the dabbing gif and even that is tainted because it's being used by Wishes as his Smash.gg pic (the competitive guy who's in that Smash clip on Twitter making the rounds trash talking the Luigi player) so I'm already wired to hate it.
"Meme" has lost all meaning.
All memeing, if you will.
Aw man.
Can I post this one at least?
All memeing, if you will.
Aw man.
Can I post this one at least?
Yeah, it's like, the only good thing they've ever drawn.
Had we gotten the Super Mario Land stage in Smash 3DS, at least Daisy would have had an actual theme in the game instead of having to settle for Mario spin off music (WoL actually uses the one SML remix we have)
It's too bad Sega doesn't let them use Olympics remixes
It's too bad Sega doesn't let them use Olympics remixes
I don't care for the character but I accept this since it's pretty good
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