Wait, what?Now I'm mad all over again because the comics can't use them anymore.
Wait, what?Now I'm mad all over again because the comics can't use them anymore.
True, but i'm also talking from a gameplay perspective too. They were direct analogues in SA2; and I kinda miss Rouge using kicks instead of punching like Knuckles.
Metal Sonic, according to the original team plans.Fang/Nack, Bean, and Bark would have made a solid team of troublemakers. Not sure who Mighty and Ray would team up with. Heavy and Bomb as one character?
Penders really did a number on Sega, damn.Flynn's only allowed to use Modern characters since Sega decided that Classic was a separate timeline.
Forces? Black Knight? Lost World? Canon.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Non-canon.
I was never a fan of making Classic a separate timeline instead of a being just Sonic from the past. It mucks up the story of SA1 where it's clearly set up as a continuation of Sonic 3&K. It's gonna be real awkward if Sonic Team decides to remake SA1 while keeping with "classic dimension" idea.Flynn's only allowed to use Modern characters since Sega decided that Classic was a separate timeline.
Forces? Black Knight? Lost World? Canon.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Non-canon.
Oh my god. Why can't there be a modern version of these characters? Do they have to wait until Sega makes them?Flynn's only allowed to use Modern characters since Sega decided that Classic was a separate timeline.
Forces? Black Knight? Lost World? Canon.
Sonic 3 & Knuckles? Non-canon.
I was never a fan of making Classic a separate timeline instead of a being just Sonic from the past. It mucks up the story of SA1 where it's clearly set up as a continuation of Sonic 3&K. It's gonna be real awkward if Sonic Team decides to remake SA1 while keeping with "classic dimension" idea.
That's the thing; Sega aren't going to make their own modern versions of those characters. In interviews related to Mania, i'm pretty sure it was stated that Mighty, Ray, Fang, Bean and Bark will only exist in "Classic Sonic's World". That's the reason why I brought up the early Heroes teams with those five in the first place, it sucks that they just aren't allowed to exist now.Why can't there be a modern version of these characters? Do they have to wait until Sega makes them?
That's the thing; Sega aren't going to make their own modern versions of those characters. In interviews related to Mania, i'm pretty sure it was stated that Mighty, Ray, Fang, Bean and Bark will only exist in "Classic Sonic's World". That's the reason why I brought up the early Heroes teams with those five in the first place, it sucks that they just aren't allowed to exist now.
It's weird that this is only coming into play for IDW series though, those characters were allowed to be in the post-Super Genesis Wave Archie continuity.
Cmon man. Give Artix a chance.I still can't commit to six names for the prediction contest, but I do feel very strongly about what's not going to be included in FP2.
I still can't commit to six names for the prediction contest, but I do feel very strongly about what's not going to be included in FP2.
As we close in on the final pages of this thread, I'm just going to sit back and appreciate how appropriate our title choice was this time around.
There's a lot of things going on with the comic and the series in general I think is kinda related to penders. I also and don't hurt me, don't think its the worst idea. I'm also not fond of shadow showing up in classic games. Different versions of sonic having different casts and focuses seem...fine
There was a third punch, sega listened to bunch of folks who were never that interested in 3d sonic in the first place for far too long. To the degree in which , now where they have given those people classic sonic and now they have no reason to care about 3d are now stuck because it seems like no one at sega knows why ...anyone liked anything in sonic. Because instead of investigating and growing, they were trying to stay safe and inoffensive to a group of people who never cared.Both Sonic 06 and Ken Penders were pretty much the 1-2 punch that resulted in the Sonic brand becoming so sterile and safe in recent years.
It wouldn't really be that akward. Nothing in sa1 or 2 requires a classic connectionI was never a fan of making Classic a separate timeline instead of a being just Sonic from the past. It mucks up the story of SA1 where it's clearly set up as a continuation of Sonic 3&K. It's gonna be real awkward if Sonic Team decides to remake SA1 while keeping with "classic dimension" idea.
Lol, yep.As we close in on the final pages of this thread, I'm just going to sit back and appreciate how appropriate our title choice was this time around.
Go ahead and tell us how you feel. I can take it.I do feel very strongly about what's not going to be included in FP2.
Enough about Smash Predictions, it's time for some SmashEra Predictions!
With a certain somebody running away from another thread over a lost avatar bet, it's time to predict what community will be next!
OMFG again?!?Enough about Smash Predictions, it's time for some SmashEra Predictions!
With a certain somebody running away from another thread over a lost avatar bet, it's time to predict what community will be next!
I admire your support for Lloyd.
Now, I don't want to name any names...
Why even keep making these bets if they're just gonna keep flaking like this?Now, I don't want to name any names...
but yeah. He "left" the Nintendo Direct threads because he lost a bet over when the next Direct would be. And by left, I mean he put the thread and the person he made the bet with on ignore.
Nah, go with a traditional Sonic fighting game like Sonic the Fighters. It's been a long time since we've had one.Hmm, so would that mean that I could do a Sucker Punch and put two Sonics into a Sonic-focused multiplayer title?
Wait, I'm getting off topic.
...Sonic-focused Smash clone?
SA1's story is centered around the Master Emerald and built on the lore of Angel Island from Sonic 3, Knuckles' initial distrust of Sonic is even brought up again as the basis for their boss fight. Nowadays, Sonic Team never features Knuckles as the guardian of Master Emerald or brings up Angel Island.It wouldn't really be that akward. Nothing in sa1 or 2 requires a classic connection
Now, I don't want to name any names...
but yeah. He "left" the Nintendo Direct threads because he lost an avatar bet over when the next Direct would be. And by left, I mean he put the thread and the person he made the bet with on ignore, lol.
I don't know. It's from the anime series which I only watched the first part of. Haven't gotten around to the second part yet. It's been a loooooong time since, though.
This is like, my exact take as well.
- No super secret upcoming Nintendo character that the public doesn't know about yet -- if we get a promotional character they'll come from a game that's already been revealed or released
- No Master Chief or Steve
- No Western characters in general besides maybe Crash
- No Tales, SMT, or Xenosaga
- No indie characters
- No Arle or Reimu
- No female characters besides maybe Chun-Li, 2B, or someone from Nintendo
I like how you felt the need to call out Reimu individually despite already saying no indie characters ;)
All six are Fire Emblem characters.I predict that we'll get six characters.
And all six will anger at least one person.
The only other NintendoEra thread that stays active consistently is the BotW2 speculation threadEnough about Smash Predictions, it's time for some SmashEra Predictions!
With a certain somebody running away from another thread over a lost avatar bet, it's time to predict what community will be next!
I mostly agree. I really want an SMT rep but I don't think they're particularly likely.
- No super secret upcoming Nintendo character that the public doesn't know about yet -- if we get a promotional character they'll come from a game that's already been revealed or released
- No Master Chief or Steve
- No Western characters in general besides maybe Crash
- No Tales, SMT, or Xenosaga
- No indie characters
- No Arle or Reimu
- No female characters besides maybe Chun-Li, 2B, or someone from Nintendo
Not at all. Nothing from sonic 3 is actually required, and most of the content in the game is new content in terms of narrative. Also they do feature him as guardian, even in promotional material and crossover material. If you can't take it from me, take it from Ian Flynn a writter who writes the comic swho's strait up said the classic modern sonic split doesn't really matter that much because versions of events from classic games could have just still happened. The thing that fucks up the story is the two worlds split. Other than that, everything is fine. They also don't mind making knuckles antagonistic on occasion. And would most likely not mind doing so again, for a game that's supposed to take place in the past. In fact knuckles gradual friendship could actually be seen as an arc over the course of several remade games. So not only is that a non problem .Its something that can be used to enhance the narrativesNah, go with a traditional Sonic fighting game like Sonic the Fighters. It's been a long time since we've had one.
SA1's story is centered around the Master Emerald and built on the lore of Angel Island from Sonic 3, Knuckles' initial distrust of Sonic is even brought up again as the basis for their boss fight. Nowadays, Sonic Team never features Knuckles as the guardian of Master Emerald or brings up Angel Island.
Not at all. Nothing from sonic 3 is actually required, and most of the content in the game is new content in terms of narrative. Also they do feature him as guardian, even in promotional material and crossover material. If you can't take it from me, take it from Ian Flynn a writter who writes the comic swho's strait up said the classic modern sonic split doesn't really matter that much because versions of events from classic games could have just still happened. The thing that fucks up the story is the two worlds split. Other than that, everything is fine. They also don't mind making knuckles antagonistic on occasion. And would most likely not mind doing so again, for a game that's supposed to take place in the past. In fact knuckles gradual friendship could actually be seen as an arc over the course of several remade games. So not only is that a non problem .Its something that can be used to enhance the narratives
I actually do think a game we don't know about could have a character in season 2. I could see a double reveal of the game and of Smash inclusion. (It happened before with Isabelle and the reveal of New Horizons.)