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Super Mario Odyssey looks worse than both 3D World / Galaxy, am I right?
- Thread starter SleepSmasher
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Thank god Odyssey broke away from 3D Worlds artstyle. Sure its clean and it looks good, but thats how all things Mario looked for a full generation, its too homogenized now. Odysseys creative new art direction is a breath of fresh air.
I can see why some people might not like some of the more realistic art direction in Odyssey, but I think Nintendo already catches enough flack for having a lack of variety in their styles, so I'd say this is smart move.
Definitely prefer the look of 3D World. Odyssey is very inconsistent. Some areas look brilliant, while others look really bad (like the entirety of NDC).
That is very subjective. Personally, I think all three look absolutely fantastic in their own way.
You are objectively wrong
It's about which art style that you prefer, Mario's character model is so ridiculously detailed compared to Galaxy
I think maybe New Donk is the example that you can use to make this game look bad, wooded kingdom is mostly fine as well
It's about which art style that you prefer, Mario's character model is so ridiculously detailed compared to Galaxy
I think maybe New Donk is the example that you can use to make this game look bad, wooded kingdom is mostly fine as well
I dont agree with you OP sorry.
Those Galaxy Screens make me feel something in my chest.
*queues gusty garden galaxy music*
Those Galaxy Screens make me feel something in my chest.
*queues gusty garden galaxy music*
Maybe op you should look at mario odyssey at higher resolution like the cemu and dolphin screen you take at 4k.
You can look at mario odyssey at 8k on this video x) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbL2otfek8Q
You can look at mario odyssey at 8k on this video x) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbL2otfek8Q
No.
Though I do like Galaxy's art style the most, it still is a generally worse looking game because of the low resolution of the Wii (and yes, I played the original on a CRT). As others have pointed out, it's cheating by using Dolphin screenshots -- that's not how 99% of people experienced the game. Another thing to note when using Dolphin is that it exposes a lot of the shortcomings of Galaxy, namely a lot of the repeating or low-quality textures.
Mario Odyssey is the best looking game of the three. True, that grass texture is some Dreamcast-looking shit, along with a few other less-stellar-looking aspects, but the game still looks generally great overall.
Though I do like Galaxy's art style the most, it still is a generally worse looking game because of the low resolution of the Wii (and yes, I played the original on a CRT). As others have pointed out, it's cheating by using Dolphin screenshots -- that's not how 99% of people experienced the game. Another thing to note when using Dolphin is that it exposes a lot of the shortcomings of Galaxy, namely a lot of the repeating or low-quality textures.
Mario Odyssey is the best looking game of the three. True, that grass texture is some Dreamcast-looking shit, along with a few other less-stellar-looking aspects, but the game still looks generally great overall.
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Odyssey looks the best. Most likely the product of being the most recent Mario, but it still looks the best. Galaxy games come as a close second, they have a stellar art style, which is unfortunately held back by 480p (C'mon gimme those remasters Nintendo). And lastly 3D World, which has always been drab and dull to me.
3d world was the best looking. Odyssey for me was forgettable. In saying this, i would like to see all these games at 4k to make a true comparison.
But i just loved the art style of 3d world. I hated the fake new york level and that dumbass song in mario odyssey.
But i just loved the art style of 3d world. I hated the fake new york level and that dumbass song in mario odyssey.
Odyssey looks like a game in which Mario was put in after the game itself was thought of.
Like Mario 2 USA
Like Mario 2 USA
I think Odyssey looks better by far, but I will say its inconsistent art style is a slight knock against it compared to Galaxy and 3D World. All great looking games though.
Art direction ? OP is right.
Models, texture work, shaders? Odyssey is objectively more complex and newer, but the IQ is also not great when running in the Switch.
Scope ? Odyssey seems a bit more ambitious.
Overall I like how Galaxy 1, 2 and 3D world LOOK, over Odyssey, but its a combination of art direction and the Switch having sub-par IQ.
Models, texture work, shaders? Odyssey is objectively more complex and newer, but the IQ is also not great when running in the Switch.
Scope ? Odyssey seems a bit more ambitious.
Overall I like how Galaxy 1, 2 and 3D world LOOK, over Odyssey, but its a combination of art direction and the Switch having sub-par IQ.
This thread reminded me that somehow Zelda can change dramatically between games but Mario always has to retain his fisher price look.
I understand why i guess but it would be nice to have a platforming mario game with a wildly different art style, the games during the nes and snes era looked wildly different.
I understand why i guess but it would be nice to have a platforming mario game with a wildly different art style, the games during the nes and snes era looked wildly different.
Yeah, it's the thing that will naturally look better as tech improves. Why limit the series to simply super cartoony styles when Odyssey shows it can work when expanding out from that?
One of things that make Odyssey such a great game to look at when you first play it is the varying art styles of each Kingdom. It's exciting not quite knowing what to expect, visually, from level to level.
The artstyle is less focused, but it looks better in every way otherwise. I like Galaxy's artstyle more.
I mainly just don't like the hideous looking rabbit mini-bosses. Everything else is aces though.
Playing handheld mode yeah the game is pretty rough looking I will agree. Docked though it looks amazing.
Graphically and technically, no doubt the switch game looks better. Mario himself just stands out with more detail.
But artistically yeah, I can't stand how Odyssey turned out. It's one of the few mainline Mario games I don't like, and also felt was pretty overhyped with scores. Mario is a joy to play, but the art is all over the place, the challenge doesn't start until you finish the game and the level designs I just don't have fun with....
But artistically yeah, I can't stand how Odyssey turned out. It's one of the few mainline Mario games I don't like, and also felt was pretty overhyped with scores. Mario is a joy to play, but the art is all over the place, the challenge doesn't start until you finish the game and the level designs I just don't have fun with....
Art Direction wise its my least favorite by far, felt off putting to play and too visually all over the place in terms of stylization and choices made, starting with that T-Rex .. ugh
Technically speaking, its of course far above the previous entries, they did some cool shit there
Technically speaking, its of course far above the previous entries, they did some cool shit there
From a technical standpoint? No! But the art style in Odyssey is sometimes ... ugh! As if they couldn't decide whether they want the Mario art style from SMG1&2 and SM3DW or a more realistic art style. I don't like it and would prefer an art style similar to SMG1&2 and SM3DW or something completely different but that is just my personal taste.
uhhhhh no. All of them looks pretty georgous and technically Odyssey is superior for obvious reasons.
But if we played 3DW and SMG on HD, I think I'll prefer Galaxy's artstyle. Simply timeless. Odyssey would be pretty close. My least favourite is 3DW; while the results still beautiful, the lighting technique in the game at a certain degree doesn't blend perfectly with the artsyle imo "as same as what happened with Wind Waker HD". But I understand why they went with this direction at that time.
But if we played 3DW and SMG on HD, I think I'll prefer Galaxy's artstyle. Simply timeless. Odyssey would be pretty close. My least favourite is 3DW; while the results still beautiful, the lighting technique in the game at a certain degree doesn't blend perfectly with the artsyle imo "as same as what happened with Wind Waker HD". But I understand why they went with this direction at that time.
This would have backfired even if OP didn't use super-res emulator screenshots, but...oof.
Hold the Switch right-side up and try again. Also you don't need to collect all the Moons.
I think it may be because you've spent much more time in the older games, so that design is 'right' to you.
Also, with the theme of Mario Odyssey being different worlds/areas getting mixed up, Odyssey doesn't really have a single unifying theme Other than, 'hats, moustaches and googly eyes'. Unlike say, Super Mario Sunshine, which almost had the opposite problem. Odyssey is almost like a stream-of-consciousness of a ton of great ideas for a Mario game, all mushed up onto onedisc cartridge. And I LOVE it.
3D World is masterpiece-level design and style though. The main thing I hate about it is the way you need a bit of time to accelerate to full speed. And then when you do, the farty sound effect when you go from walking to running.
Also, with the theme of Mario Odyssey being different worlds/areas getting mixed up, Odyssey doesn't really have a single unifying theme Other than, 'hats, moustaches and googly eyes'. Unlike say, Super Mario Sunshine, which almost had the opposite problem. Odyssey is almost like a stream-of-consciousness of a ton of great ideas for a Mario game, all mushed up onto one
3D World is masterpiece-level design and style though. The main thing I hate about it is the way you need a bit of time to accelerate to full speed. And then when you do, the farty sound effect when you go from walking to running.
The ugliest level in 3d world lack of AA and ugly looking grass/ ground textures and trees that would pop in was really ugly
The more the open/realistic the levels are in Mario games the more ugly they tend to look.
Oof, I remember this well. One of my most distinct memories of that game in fact unfortunately, the pop-in was super noticeable because of how barren it is.
To a point, this highlights why I prefer Odyssey. Some may call it inconsistent, but the art style and engine are flexible and allow for different gameplay styles. 3D World on the other hand falls apart when it tries to do anything non abstract / without a 2D-inspired level structure.
I love galaxies artstyle, and odysseys mostly works for me.
but man im so glad mario is moving away from the 'wii' artstyle. Its just hideous
but man im so glad mario is moving away from the 'wii' artstyle. Its just hideous