Super Mario 3D World Online is Unplayable

[greekappi]

Just picked up SM3DW + Bowser's Fury on Switch to play online with my friend. Immediately noticed it was not only laggy as hell (input lag wise) but also super choppy with half second freezes every few moments. I thought I'd finally pony up and get a LAN adapter. So did that and tried again, same shit. I'm on Google Fiber.

My friend is on Wifi but getting 50 down and 25 up so we should be fine. Does anybody else want to cry like I do with this crap? Is there anything to be done?

 

[Dest]

Played some last night and worked, not perfectly, but was more than playable.

 

[shancake]

I've played with two seperate groups for quite extensive amounts of times and only had one or two drops. Was surprised at how well it worked.

 

[BasilZero]

Wait it has online MP?

Hmm....

 

[Deleted member 90924]

I had no issues yesterday but YMMV with this sort of thing, just adding another data point

 

[EggmaniMN]

It's been fine for me, my friends and mostly fine for all of the streamers I've watched. About as perfectly playable as I could hope for. Make sure everyone is wired.

 

[GJ]

Had the same experience last night with three friends while all on pretty good internet connections. Honestly it wasn't that bad and we played four complete worlds, but it could definitely be a lot smoother. We adjusted to it though. The only real fuckery happened on that level where the blocks change to the beat of the music. The music slows down as well when it's lagging so it's very disorienting.

 

[DenverCo]

Just saw a stream with ex giantbomb member Dan and his sister play for over 5 hours and they didn't seem to have any issues.

 

[Tansut]

I've experienced a couple minor hiccups, but me and a friend are in the first post-game world and have been doing fine for like 98% of the time. But I can imagine not everyone is experiencing the same quality regardless of their speeds.

 

[JustJavi]

Haven't noticed anything weird so far.

 

[Starphanluke]

Obviously this is a situation where people will have varying results (and Nintendo should be doing far better by now regardless), but I had very few issues both times I've played.

 

[The Deleter]

Just picked up SM3DW + Bowser's Fury on Switch to play online with my friend. Immediately noticed it was not only laggy as hell (input lag wise) but also super choppy with half second freezes every few moments. I thought I'd finally pony up and get a LAN adapter. So did that and tried again, same shit. I'm on Google Fiber.

My friend is on Wifi but getting 50 down and 25 up so we should be fine. Does anybody else want to cry like I do with this crap? Is there anything to be done?

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Nothing outside of fixing your internet connections in general. If you have high speed downloads, uploads, and ping, then the only issue here is lost packets and networking issues. Unless of course it's an issue with the switch's connection to wifi itself, but if your friend switched to LAN and had the same issue, it'd probably be somewhere in the network itself I'm afraid.

 

[Ocean]

I've learned to expect less than nothing from Nintendo when it comes to online play. Their software is stellar enough that I put up with it but god damn do they need a shakeup in this area. Haven't played this title yet, but I'm going in with the expectation that online will be garbage. I'd love to be wrong though!

 

[Jaded Alyx]

My friend is on Wifi but getting 50 down and 25 up so we should be fine.

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That's not how it works. Latency and interference are what matters, not bandwidth. You being on ethernet and the other person being on wifi defeats the purpose (assuming the wifi is the cause of the problem).

 

[Xterrian]

Do you have any issues with the game during single-player? Some people said their experience was choppy while others had a smooth 60fps.

You could always try hard resetting the console I guess. (Hold down the power button for 15 seconds)

 

[HardRojo]

It seemed "fine" when I played yesterday, but I haven't played offline yet to properly test, so I'll check it out later.

 

[Astrogamer]

This is pretty clear the reason why most platformers didn't have online before. It's a genre whose online is as demanding as a fighting game but, notably less developers, especially when you account for ones with players that interact with each other. The best you can do is make sure both parties are wired and make sure there aren't any network issues (Ping is more important than down/upload speed)

 

[superNESjoe]

I've played with full groups on a couple of occasions this weekend and was actually shocked and how near perfect it was.

But, just like Smash and Mario Maker online, it's entirely dependent on your internet. If just one player in the lobby has a bad connection, it will ruin it for everyone. It's not just about bandwidth and speeds, but ping, packet loss, etc. A lot of people have very poor home networks but don't realize it, most online games doctor the experience pretty well to make you not notice.

Nintendo definitely needs to find a new solution but in my experience this weekend via a combination of wired and wireless players it has been surprisingly good.

 

[greekappi]

Hmm, ok what about NAT types? We both are at Type B. Anything else we need to check in router settings? Once my friend gets his LAN adapter tomorrow we'll try again. I just can't believe how bad it is.

 

[Fireblend]

Honestly, what I've heard/seen about it so far surprises me in terms of how well it seems to be working for people considering Nintendo's history with online performance in their 1st party games.

On the other hand, this is Nintendo, don't buy their stuff for online modes because 9 out of 10 times you'll end up disappointed either because of performance or limited modes, or at least wait for impressions (not that it applies for SM3DW which again seems to work fine for most people).

 

[greekappi]

Do you have any issues with the game during single-player? Some people said their experience was choppy while others had a smooth 60fps.

You could always try hard resetting the console I guess. (Hold down the power button for 15 seconds)

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No issues whatsoever in single player. Silky smooth.

 

[KillstealWolf]

Online is Lockstep based, which in brief is game waits for everyone to give a command, and then executes it. Same system as Super Mario Maker 2



What it means is since it waits on everyone's response, the connection will only be as good as the person with the worst connection. If everyone has a good connection, it will be good for everyone, but if only one person has a bad connection, it will be terrible for everyone.

You just need to find the weak link in your group OP.

 

[We_care_a_lot]

Do you have any issues with the game during single-player? Some people said their experience was choppy while others had a smooth 60fps.

You could always try hard resetting the console I guess. (Hold down the power button for 15 seconds)

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Hey you know I think we had some choppiness when playing the other night. I wasn't sure but now that you say this I'm going to keep my eye on it

 

[Alvis]

My friend is on Wifi but getting 50 down and 25 up so we should be fine.

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that is absolutely not how anything works, at all

bandwidth ≠ stability, dropped packets, ping

you can have a better experience playing online with a stable, wired 1 Mbps connection than with a 1 Gbps connection in where you're dropping half the packets

tell your friend to get a LAN adapter too, in games with lockstep netcode it doesn't matter that you have the best and most stable connection in the planet, if your friend has connectivity problems then it WILL run like shit

 

[waffleman]

Seems like everyone here is having a fine experience but I'm with you OP. I dealt with it because I really like mario but the input lag was very frustrating. Especially noticeable when you can quickly hop into single player and see first hand how buttery smooth it is in comparison

 

[LumberPanda]

Your friend needs to get on LAN asap