This game wasn't even on my radar. Not playing anything right now...might be a purchase for me.
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Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury | Review Thread
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It's a new release with a new review. The review doesn't represent IGN but the person's opinion that is reviewing it.
And I also don't agree with most of the review but that doesn't mean it is a bad review - because it isn't. He talks about the aspects he didn't like in depth.
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Patrick's review at Waypoint is rather glowing about the game. (unscored)
'Bowser's Fury' Drops Mario into an Open World and It's Spectacular
Nintendo's latest proves there are still ways to make the act of making Mario jump feel exciting all over again.www.vice.com
Sounds great!
This makes no sense.
As much as I loved the game, returning to it recently I have to agree, it makes the game much harder than the other 3D Marios to complete and although it's neat in some levels it becomes annoying in many others
Captain Toad is basically a 3D World spinof. They have experimented with this level design for a few levels with Toad in 3D World and then made a a full proper game with that idea
Seeing outlying scores is healthier than if the entire media agreed which games were amazing, and I note that positive outliers, where most reviewers land 8-9 but there's one or two that give a ten, rarely seem to get as much objection from readers. When I see film reviews and there's a range of 3-5 stars out of 5, I don't think that the outliers by a single point on the scale mean the reviewer is somehow wrong, nor do I expect all the same reviewers at the same outlet over a period of years to all agree with each other. When we can easily see the range across the media in general, which in this case is overwhelming praise, I just don't see the issue with a writer thinking a great mario game was merely 'good' just because his colleague thought differently a few years previously.
Does anyone know if online multiplayer requires you to be friends to play together? It's kind of hard to imagine that not being the case but it would be nice to be surprised.
3D World when it came out was the logical conclusion of 3D Mario games' increasing shift of embodying the spirit of linear 2D Mario levels that began with Super Mario Galaxy. For those who were in line with that kind of style, there was gold to be found, while others were a bit more peeved at the loss of 3D Mario's more holistic, open-ended approach being lost. Personally 3D World isn't my favorite Mario game, but while it occasionally lacks the sheer boundary breaking presentation that games like Odyssey and Galaxy are known to have, it's probably my favorite of the "Galaxy" era of Mario platformers and a monumentally feature-complete capstone of that design approach. It's going to be interesting to revisit it with its increased movement speed; I always thought the movement was one of the things about the original game that didn't quite sit well with me.
So as someone that thinks Super Mario Odyssey is a very charming and beautiful game, but only thinks it's about average in terms of fun mainly due to an extreme lack of difficulty unless you go to the darker side of the moon after collecting like 500 moons, how is the difficulty in here?
Assuming you would try and get all 3 stars in every level. An added question, are the stars particularly annoying in requiring specific power ups to obtain and does that deter to the general experience and eventually turns it into a rather tedious thing?
I'm a big fan of 2D Mario over 3D Mario btw so this aspect of it basically being a 2D Mario but like in 3D if that makes sense does appeal to me.
Assuming you would try and get all 3 stars in every level. An added question, are the stars particularly annoying in requiring specific power ups to obtain and does that deter to the general experience and eventually turns it into a rather tedious thing?
I'm a big fan of 2D Mario over 3D Mario btw so this aspect of it basically being a 2D Mario but like in 3D if that makes sense does appeal to me.
I don't know if I'll double dip, as I 100% 3D world In coop and it was one of the best Mario experiences I've had. That said, bowers fury looks good
It's like 3-6 hours, but seems to be a pretty good time from what people have been saying.
Guess which reviewer ISN'T going to be working at Nintendo after IGN =)
It's a separate bite-sized game. Takes around 3 hours to complete, six hours for 100%.
Do we know yet how
works with online play? Is it based on your own game's save or does the host have to have it unlocked for the other players to be able to use it? It wasn't 100% clear in the preview thread iirc.
Rosalina
its heavy smb2 vibes really work for me, in that i NEVER play as mario, and pretty much only as luigi or princess.
7 is totally fair. The game is one of the best 3d platformers ever made but it deserved to be more thoroughly overhauled and expanded for a full priced release 7.5 years later. Nintendo sold this game as a $20 Nintendo Selects release 5 years ago
3 to 6 hours for 100% completion.
That definitely takes some of the sting away of this game being full price given it's age.
3-6 hours of new content on top of one of the best platformers ever made seems reasonable for 59.99.
Haven't turned on my switch in ages, but It hink I'll pick this up... and I'll def get it for my sister for her bday coming up.
It's more like... a DLC campaign in terms of size. But it's structured as a separate game.
3d World is my favorite BUT it is not a very difficult game overall. The bonus worlds have some of the most difficult platforming challenges in any Mario game but much like Odyssey, it takes a good amount of collecting to unlock them all.
The score isn't based on this. The reviewer has fundamental issues with 3D World itself.
Wow, that's high. I'm expecting 50s and maybe crack 60s
My understanding is that online is essentially just you connecting to the hosts game as if it was local, all progression is based off, and saved to, the hosts system.
I can live with the price because of the new content but I think the sweet spot would have been 39.99.
Exactly. People are allowed to have differing opinions. Part of the problem with a review is that its expected to be taken as the opinion of the entire site.
I feel like this happens in the case of Nintendo more often because their fans are conditioned to expect glowing reviews for every game they release. While this isn't universal to them - just look at Sony fans when outlets dared to criticize Death Stranding or Last of Us Part 2 - this seemingly has always been the case. Tommy Tallarico's 5/10 for Nintendo's E3 2004, Game Informer's 6/10 for Paper Mario TTYD, Jeff Gerstmann's 8.8 for Twilight Princess, Jim Sterling's 7/10 for Breath of the Wild. Dare to be an outlier of opinion for something Nintendo does that should be universally beloved, and face the consequences.
Does at least collecting the stars in every level make it more challenging than Odyssey? Maybe I'm not remembering right but I do remember trying to get all 3 stars in some stages in previous 2D Mario games to be fairly challenging.
