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Super Mario 3D All-Stars Review Thread
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This should be a Criterion collection release. This is a DVD transfer put on a blu ray.
When company like Digital Eclipse exist, people have the right to be pissed by this product. The end consummer doesn't give a shit that NERD developped good emulators that will somehow be used in future products ( but not too many, because Nintendo) . The end result is a barebone release with a jukebox thant nobody will ever use because who the fuck uses its switch as a mp3 player.
The games run flawlessly. The collection doesn't work well with the current Switch's CFW so pirated copies have a bit of lag and some crashes.
I'm reading that there aren't actually any framerate issues at all and the video going around must have been because of a pirated copy, just like some of the more level headed users here were saying was likely the case. Hopefully people wait for better sources than a random ass twitter user with a modded console and pirated copy of the game before over reacting in the future because some of those posts are straight up embarrassing in hindsight.
It was to me. I honestly never got why people sniped it so hard. I loved it as a kid and can't wait to hop back into it on Friday!
not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
but the game still scored high....jesus
It must be nice to live in a place with easy access to a n64 game, a gamecube game and to a lesser extend a wii game (still in my country there is no store still selling them) because i bet no one saying the access to those games is easy is because they download them for free on the internet.
Beyond that i find the review of such type of collections a bit weird (since it comes of the expectations of it being more when their appeal is that it is what it was for the most part) but for what i read beyond lackluster flood controls the rest seems as good as the originals so i can't wait to finally play 3 of the most well regarded (or 2+shunshine) 3D platformers that have been made.
it feels like sometimes reviewers and forum enthusiasts forget that not all people have been playing those games a lot of times. I guess in the reviwers case they dont make reviews for the general public but anyway.
Beyond that i find the review of such type of collections a bit weird (since it comes of the expectations of it being more when their appeal is that it is what it was for the most part) but for what i read beyond lackluster flood controls the rest seems as good as the originals so i can't wait to finally play 3 of the most well regarded (or 2+shunshine) 3D platformers that have been made.
it feels like sometimes reviewers and forum enthusiasts forget that not all people have been playing those games a lot of times. I guess in the reviwers case they dont make reviews for the general public but anyway.
Honestly, I can give two shits about what any review says. Seeing these three games (even though my heart breaks for no Galaxy 2) puts the widest smile on my face.
I remember the exact moment my father (who passed 10 years ago) handed me my N64 on my 12th birthday surrounded by all my friends with a copy of Mario 64 and Turok. I remember working my ass off to buy that Gamecube along with Sunshine and Monkeyball. And I especially remember the voodoo that was circling that first planet in Galaxy.
Widescreen or not, 60 fps or not, remapped controls or not these games are pure magic and I CANNOT WAIT to relive them.
I remember the exact moment my father (who passed 10 years ago) handed me my N64 on my 12th birthday surrounded by all my friends with a copy of Mario 64 and Turok. I remember working my ass off to buy that Gamecube along with Sunshine and Monkeyball. And I especially remember the voodoo that was circling that first planet in Galaxy.
Widescreen or not, 60 fps or not, remapped controls or not these games are pure magic and I CANNOT WAIT to relive them.
I can't at the moment. Does the Switch version hold a solid 30fps or does it dip below?
That's good. I first noticed a micro-stutter in the reveal video, but put it aside as an encoding issue.
It'll be a real shame if the the first two games are not locked at 30fps.
People really need to stop believing people who have their Switch modded on how badly games run or if there are crashing issues. I remember the same for Pokémon and it was bunk then too.
not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
It's windowed?
It's mentioned in the Kotaku review. Unless you're claiming they're running a pirated copy on CFW.
Guess the games are just that good huhnot even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
If the collection is bad, WoM will prevent it from being a big hit beyond launch. Guess we'll find out soon enough how garbage this collection truly is.
That's not even the narrative posed by the guy who wrote the review. He gave one of the games a six out of ten score.
JFCnot even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
It always has; the overscan made it less noticeable on old TVs
It seems pretty weird that gamers are both "games are art and should be taken seriously" and "games that are older than five years are old garbage that you should be able to play for pennies". I also guess "game preservation" is also just a thing when it means you get to download romsets for free off of the internet.
They said there is the occasional frame pacing hiccup, but it doesn't drop frames in places where the originals did.
Gotcha. It gives such a weird impression on that screen, a double-letterbox look.
Wow it looks exactly like we knew it would, I'm shocked I tell ya.not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
Digital Eclipse is hardly a gold standard, I've seen multiple releases from them ship with issues.
This is an improved released compared to the original with no bugs thus far noted, so it is better than a SD on blu-ray, as that would be inferior to the original cinema release. It could of course be better (significantly so), but this post has a fair amount of hyperbole in it.
Where in that review? I looked and it said it eliminated all of the dips from the original.
I find these scores a bit puzzling. I don't think re-releases or "remasters" (which this can't even be considered that) should not be reviewed on the basis of how good the original games are, but on the improvements that are made. And price should be taken deeply into account. I don't know, I hope people enjoy it, but to me this is a complete ripoff.
I'd love to play these games but I'm not going to shell out full price for such a barebones release.
Even if it's infrequent, I hope they patch it. Bad frame pacing hurts the experience.
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Kotaku said:
Super Mario 3D All-Stars: The Kotaku Review
Anyone who says “you can’t go home again” obviously never played a Mario game.
kotaku.com
Well, aside from preservation/availability as others have mentioned, games from the past usually feel and look more dated. The camera in Sunshine is atrocious and camera controls are something that 3D gaming has conquered long ago, for example.
720p, no widescreen, and 30fps isn't exactly preserving a game's integrity.
Yeah, this pisses me off. Like they didn't put any work into it.not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
If not for Galaxy, I probably wouldn't buy this.
not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
that is certainly NOT the quality i expect from nintendo
its pretty embarrassing actually
Tbh, if it had Galaxy 2 with the same improvements, I think $60 would be alright, without it, it certainly feels . I guess it's always hard to value those collections, as you can review them in terms of the actual game (pretty good) or the actual work done for this package (pretty poor).
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Super Mario 3D All-Stars: The Kotaku Review
Anyone who says “you can’t go home again” obviously never played a Mario game.
Ah, I searched "frame" and "perform" but not slowdown.
Weird that they mentioned that though, other reviews have suggested it's a flawless 30fps unlike the original.
That's from the original game for overscan, 50% of n64 games have that naturally and it's part of accurate emulation
Yeah but EPD wouldn't farm that job out... I'm happier they're making new stuff still.
It is by a pretty large margin imo, never really understood the bizarre hate for it I was very surprised when I first found out online that opinions were mixed on it.
Guess we'll see soon enough. Interesting that it specifies late game. I'd think that, if anywhere, it'd be present in the beginning when it's still covered in paint. I don't recall it getting busier other than Yoshi appearing.
Wow! AMAZING scores! Congratulations to Nintendo on yet another critically acclaimed new Switch game. How am I supposed to play so many great new games Nintendo??? I hope this makes them a TON of money so that they can afford to keep creating great new games.
Honestly the visuals and lack of widescreen and keeping 30fps doesn't bother me at all, it's the lack of care for updating the controls that really bothers me. Especially for Galaxy. Mandating touchscreen use in handheld mode for the pointer is incredibly dumb.
As someone that had never played both, Sunshine is far and away a better game to play in 2020. But Galaxy blows them both out the water.
I honestly, as someone that had never played any of the games, would have happily payed $60 for Galaxy on Switch after playing this collection. But of course that wouldn't work for the majority of Nintendo players.
User Banned (3 Days): Platform Waring
How shocking to see most Nintendo centric websites giving it a free pass. /s
It's like Nintendo has cultivated an army of yes-men to endlessly enable their bullshit. Just depressing stuff.
It's like Nintendo has cultivated an army of yes-men to endlessly enable their bullshit. Just depressing stuff.
I mean, that's kind of my point. A criterion release would remaster the film in a cleaner looking and higher resolution package, but it wouldn't change the framerate of the film, it wouldn't change the aspect ratio of the film. Those are recognized as specific artistic elements of the original work. The goal of Criterion is to preserve the original film as faithfully as possible, in a high-quality remaster.
Again, not saying people are wrong for wanting something different. I just find the difference interesting.
not even ports, just roms running on an emulator and mario 64 look like this
but the game still scored high....jesus
I mean....this was expected lol. Not saying its fine but this was expected.
