And who the fuck comes up with these extremely un-marketable names
edit: that said, I hope this somehow makes a huge profit and eventually a 3D game with a good budget can be produced
but I'm not sure that could be the case with that name and art style
EDIT: on second thought, art style is okay, but it absolutely pales in comparison to previous Suikoden games. I know Suikoden V's artist passed away, but I don't think that was the same artist that worked on III or IV. Both III and IV have amazing art styles IMO
I have never donated to a video game's kickstarter before. I've heard a lot of horror stories on this site about broken promises and the like. But I am really tempted to donate for this one. Suikoden is one of my favorite JRPG series. The character art already looks great, and if the writing is as good as some of the old Suikoden games, this could be one of the best JRPGs in years.
I wish I could say the same for myself. I think the total list of successful Kickstarters I've actually gotten my backer rewards from is Broken Age and Bloodstained and that's it. Oh, right. Chasm too.
I second ALL of that. I don't think we can count on Konami anymore. Like with Bloodstained games being the spiritual successors to the Castlevania series (Ritual of the Night being the Metroidvania CV successor and the Curse of the Moon games being awesome successors to the old school side-scrolling CVs), this is basically that, but for Suikoden. What next? A spiritual successor to Goemon? Gradius? Silent Hill (I know people got their hopes up for August, but my faith in Konami's pretty much non-existent at this point)?
Anywho, this game and everything I'm hearing and seeing from it looks AWESOME! I texted my little sister regarding this (she's a big Suikoden fan) and she's stoked.
This will literally be my first kickstarter campaign I have given money to. Alongside Skies of Arcadia, the Suikoden series of games have been by far my favorite RPGs, and I play most JRPG and Western style RPGs that come out these days. The hole left behind by not having an RPG like Suikoden has sucked and to see so many veterans of this type of game joining the project makes me want to make sure it has every chance of succeeding.
Personally I am happy they are just making a whole new game rather then just continuing the Suikoden series, they can build a whole new world, with its own set of mythos and not be held back by Suikoden 4-5 decisions since Murayama wasn't part of their production. Hopefully the kickstarter is successful, the eventual game is successful and they make more games after this. I want more RPGs like this again ;_;.
The soundtrack is killer, and I still love it, but I don't know how much of that is nostalgia - the battles feel pretty slow - it was one of the first rpgs to have 3D battles and they're pretty basic. Outside of that I still find it pretty enjoyable. Give the remake a wide berth though
theres been so many successful and great videogame kickstarters
don't worry about previously failed ones and worry about the details of this one, to decide if you want to contribute
Thanks for the advice. I'm definitely going to check out all the details once the Kickstarter goes live. This game looks like it could be really great. I've been burnt out by JRPGs for a while now, but this one looks exactly like the kind of game I have been wanting to play for years.
Suikoden is my all-time favorite JRPG series. Played 1, 2 and 5 (my favorite one) multiple times. I loved how relatively grounded the conflicts in those games were compared to JRPGs at the time. I'll definitely try and support the Kickstarter when it starts.
Have there been any games out there that have the same feel as the Suikoden sereis? I think the closest I've played are probably the Trails series in terms of their world building and sense of place.
I have never donated to a video game's kickstarter before. I've heard a lot of horror stories on this site about broken promises and the like. But I am really tempted to donate for this one. Suikoden is one of my favorite JRPG series. The character art already looks great, and if the writing is as good as some of the old Suikoden games, this could be one of the best JRPGs in years.
The only kickstarter I've ever donated to is one of the most notorious failures, although technically (someone) is still trying to make the game, Unsung Story. It doesn't bother me at all. I would throw $20 or $40 at anyone with the same pitch as Unsung Story today even after getting burned. I have concerns about this too but I will probably still back. It's a knowing risk.
And who the fuck comes up with these extremely un-marketable names
edit: that said, I hope this somehow makes a huge profit and eventually a 3D game with a good budget can be produced
but I'm not sure that could be the case with that name and art style
EDIT: on second thought, art style is okay, but it absolutely pales in comparison to previous Suikoden games. I know Suikoden V's artist passed away, but I don't think that was the same artist that worked on III or IV. Both III and IV have amazing art styles IMO
I have never donated to a video game's kickstarter before. I've heard a lot of horror stories on this site about broken promises and the like. But I am really tempted to donate for this one. Suikoden is one of my favorite JRPG series. The character art already looks great, and if the writing is as good as some of the old Suikoden games, this could be one of the best JRPGs in years.
This looks absolutely phenomenal, i hope they manage to meet theirs goals and develop accordingly.
Also, someone people correct me, but the way their artstyle is mixing 2d and 3d in battles to position the characters with a sense of height and depth seems very unique, i cannot recall another rpg doing the same.
And who the fuck comes up with these extremely un-marketable names
edit: that said, I hope this somehow makes a huge profit and eventually a 3D game with a good budget can be produced
but I'm not sure that could be the case with that name and art style
EDIT: on second thought, art style is okay, but it absolutely pales in comparison to previous Suikoden games. I know Suikoden V's artist passed away, but I don't think that was the same artist that worked on III or IV. Both III and IV have amazing art styles IMO
Junko Kawano was the artist for Suikoden 1, 4, and Rhapsodia.
She also did the key art/cover art for Suikoden Centennial Tapestry on PSP (only released in Japan)
Fumi Ishikawa was the artist for Suikoden 2 and 3.
Kaori Fujita is the artist that sadly passed away that did some of the art for Suikoden V along with the art director "King" (Hideki Tanaka).
Also, super stoked for Eiyuden Chronicle: Hundred Heroes and will be throwing all the money at the Kickstarter :D
Oh my, this actually looks great and they seem to have a nice roster of veteran staff on the project! Haven't backed a kickstarter in years but man, this looks very promising. Totally gonna back this in some capacity.
I love, love, love me some Suikoden 2, and I think it is the best looking game in the series, but Suikoden 3 definitely has a strong story mode (while also utilizing its cast of characters far better).
I love, love, love me some Suikoden 2, and I think it is the best looking game in the series, but Suikoden 3 definitely has a strong story mode (while also utilizing its cast of characters far better).
I love, love, love me some Suikoden 2, and I think it is the best looking game in the series, but Suikoden 3 definitely has a strong story mode (while also utilizing its cast of characters far better).
Suikoden 3 also has a lot of dumb/frustrating stuff.
Like I remember something about lazily trying to absolve Chris of being a child murderer and has one of the characters (Duck Man?) treat Hugo like a baby for confronting her about it.
IDK. I guess I'm biased cause I played Suikoden 3 before 2. The trinity system and seeing the story unfold through different perspectives that culminates into a final scenario was really cool.
Suikoden 3 also has a lot of dumb/frustrating stuff.
Like I remember something about lazily trying to absolve Chris of being a child murderer and has one of the characters (Duck Man?) treat Hugo like a baby for confronting her about it.
The story does establish that the whole conflict was a rage spiral that was being influenced by outside forces.
I think it is fair to criticize that storytelling mechanism, as it does feel a little sloppy. It definitely lets some characters off the hook, too. I mean, I loved Borus for being a complex character, but Chris and her crew REALLY let that dude off the hook...
...(especially since they aren't aware that he was being influenced by outside forces).
That being said, Suikoden 2 had...
...Jowy perpetuating a war needlessly. Arguably because he held a rune that was in conflict with Riou's.
So, there have always been a few dicey elements in the stories of those games, it doesn't stop the majority of it from being pretty compelling, though.
If Murayama had stayed with Konami, I feel like we would have received a more satisfying conclusion to the stories of those two. As is, we never really fully got Edge's story or his connection to the pair. It is most certainly unfortunate.
You're welcome to your perspective on that, but I've Kickstarted quite a few games and it's turned out well for me most of the time. You just need to be savvy about what you're backing.
I think 5 edges them both (but it's reeeeaally close). It definitely has the best political intrigue and does the best job of fleshing out the minor characters/giving them a role in the story beyond just being more Pokemon to collect.
