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Street Fighter 6 Discussion/Speculation Thread
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Wasn't Ono into the really horny female character designs? Mika, Laura, jiggle physics Chun, etc…
That's one thing that I thought as well but I'm not sure. I'm also wondering if he's someone who pushed the more "slapstick" side of SF. Not that it wasn't slapstick in parts before, it definitely was, but I noticed it a bit more with 4 and 5 than any prior. Like I don't know, Rufus for example. I wonder how Rufus would be if he were in SF2 or even SFA. I think he'd be portrayed a lil bit differently then compared to how he was in 4.
If that makes any sense.
Well for one there doesn't seem to be any comeback mechanics in this game. Also, the characters in SF6 so far don't have any goofy animations or facial expressions. I got nothing but love for Ono though. Who knows if SF would even still be around if he didn't advocate for it back in the PS3 gen.
Obese character for comedic effect was one of his things too
The biggest difference for fans is how open and responsive the Street Fighter team has been since he left. We literally never even saw the people working on the game before. That was reportedly Ono's fault.
Yeah I give Ono full respect and love for reviving SF and the genre in genre in general, always. The goofy animations and facial expressions is interesting, I figured he might have had a part in that. Even Blanka looked normal in that leaked artwork.
Good point, yeah you're right about that. Wow.
Welp, that explains a lot.
Sexualized female characters and obese joke characters were fighting game staples in the 2010s and to some extent that's still the case. Hardly exclusive to Ono's SF games.
Got to take into account countries like Brazil where adoption of new consoles is slow, but software sales potential (especially for competitive games like SF) is good.
His role for 3rd strike was sound producer so the hip-hop vibe for that game he might be partially responsible for.
Yup, it's Champion! Can't even see Arcade on sale anymore digitally on PS5.
I made a couple of gifs:
Love it. Pure style. It looks so good in motion.
Love this part so much in the trailer w/ the music. And damn his super looks so good.
This game in motion is a sight to behold.I made a couple of gifs:
I made a couple of gifs:
What is this? I still can't figure it out. I don't think it's a parry into drive rush because the attack whiffs. I don't think it's drive impact because I think the attacks that looks like Ryu's SF4 focus attack and his SFV Ryu's VT2 punch is the drive impact which basically is a focus attack. And it's also not drive reversal because Ryu didn't block anything. And it's not an EX move because that uppercut move is not one of his specials.
So what am I missing? My best guess is that you can do parry into drive rush even on whiff. Which would be kind of nutty if true.
At some point Ono was the only one on Capcom pushing for the development of a new Street Fighter
I'd feel comfortable attributing that vibe to Hideki Okugawa. Even his non Street Fighter work has that jazzy/hip-hop flair. Hell, the Adam the Clown theme from Dead Rising sounds like it could be a lost Third Strike track.
Nothing but respect for Ono from me though, even if I don't necessarily agree with some of the ways he handled the IP.
It's feeling like "ladies with muscles" was an Ono thing, because Chun and Cammy already have way less muscle definition compared to SFV. I hope I'm wrong about this though
We can also thank Ono for our lord and savior, Ingrid
(Ingrid in Capcom Fighting Jam, which Ono worked on)
(Ingrid in Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX, which I think was the first post-CFJ Street Fighter game)
(Ingrid bestowing Pandora's Box on the rest of the plebs in Street Fighter X Tekken's comic. She didn't get any mentions during the SF4 period BUT a potential reason for that is she was originally supposed to appear in TVC and then MVC3. Ingrid would get to properly appear in a crossover, Project X Zone 2, during the SF5 era. Speaking of...)
(Ingrid during the SF5 Era aka the 'When Ingrid's not on screen, everyone should be asking, "Where's Ingrid?"' Era of Street Fighter. Including stuff like an Ingrid costume for Karin, a concept for Dark Ingrid, Ingrid's walk cycle animated by one of the SF5 devs and so on)
Ingrid is Ono's legacy, his final gift, to the Street Fighter series
/s
I actually don't think Ono is the (only) one pushing Ingrid. He definitely wasn't in the position to push her for TVC, MVC3 and Project X Zone 2. It seems like the SF team does like Ingrid.
I do 100% believe Ono is the reason Ingrid, and not the other Code Holders, got to leave cancellation limbo though
Semi-related, I am also 100% expecting Ingrid to come back if time travel shenanigans are confirmed for SF6
I actually don't think Ono is the (only) one pushing Ingrid. He definitely wasn't in the position to push her for TVC, MVC3 and Project X Zone 2. It seems like the SF team does like Ingrid.
I do 100% believe Ono is the reason Ingrid, and not the other Code Holders, got to leave cancellation limbo though
Semi-related, I am also 100% expecting Ingrid to come back if time travel shenanigans are confirmed for SF6
RE4 has never been remade before.
It is. He's canceling the drive parry 'stance' into the drive rush. It doesn't have to hit.
One thing I find funny is that after the first teaser everyone talked about how they are changing the style and making everything look more "realistic" (more like anime realism). But after looking at the gameplay footage, the visual style in gameplay doesn't seem that different than the previous games. It looks very much in line with the evolution of SF4 and SF5, down to the way the characters are proportioned and the way they move.
Honestly, with Street Fighter always being referred to as a series where each entry is different than the last, I wish this looked even more different from SFV than it currently does.
Honestly, with Street Fighter always being referred to as a series where each entry is different than the last, I wish this looked even more different from SFV than it currently does.
Street Fighter is certainly referred to as a series where each entry is more different than the last, but the series has honestly been iterating on the same ideas mechanically since 1999 and aesthetically since 2009 (aesthetically since 1999 in some respects, tbh).
It's what inspired me to make this thread
SFII revolutionized fighting games. 3rd Strike revolutionized Street Fighter.
Street Fighter II: The World Warrior codified the fighting game genre in 1991. We all know this story, I will not rehash it, but SFII is not where Street Fighter reached maturity. SFII was simply the start of Street Fighter’s disruptive adolescence. The 1990s were an age of discovery, not just...
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The main theme goes harder than it should. Excited to hear the full soundtrack.
Need official for the gym.Street Fighter 6 - State of Play (2022) Trailer Song #StreetFighter6
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The main theme goes harder than it should. Excited to hear the full soundtrack.
Interesting well whoever was responsible did a great job with it!
I'm also really hoping they go and add more muscle to the ladies for 6. It was realistic, it was just better overall so yeah that was an amazing addition. Let's hope that others in Capcom understand that.It's feeling like "ladies with muscles" was an Ono thing, because Chun and Cammy already have way less muscle definition compared to SFV. I hope I'm wrong about this though
We can also thank Ono for our lord and savior, Ingrid
(Ingrid in Capcom Fighting Jam, which Ono worked on)
(Ingrid in Street Fighter Alpha 3 MAX, which I think was the first post-CFJ Street Fighter game)
(Ingrid bestowing Pandora's Box on the rest of the plebs in Street Fighter X Tekken's comic. She didn't get any mentions during the SF4 period BUT a potential reason for that is she was originally supposed to appear in TVC and then MVC3. Ingrid would get to properly appear in a crossover, Project X Zone 2, during the SF5 era. Speaking of...)
(Ingrid during the SF5 Era aka the 'When Ingrid's not on screen, everyone should be asking, "Where's Ingrid?"' Era of Street Fighter. Including stuff like an Ingrid costume for Karin, a concept for Dark Ingrid, Ingrid's walk cycle animated by one of the SF5 devs and so on)
Ingrid is Ono's legacy, his final gift, to the Street Fighter series
/s
I actually don't think Ono is the (only) one pushing Ingrid. He definitely wasn't in the position to push her for TVC, MVC3 and Project X Zone 2. It seems like the SF team does like Ingrid.
I do 100% believe Ono is the reason Ingrid, and not the other Code Holders, got to leave cancellation limbo though
Semi-related, I am also 100% expecting Ingrid to come back if time travel shenanigans are confirmed for SF6
And Ingrid's dope so whatever's contributing to her in the series, it's dope lol.
Parry (Blue Ink) cancel into Drive Rush (Green Ink) into s.HP into Ryu's new Hashogeki.
- Hashogeki – Ryu concentrates ki in his palms and unleashes it a short distance forward. Useful as a follow-up after block strings and combos.
Note the Drive Rush says it can be executed from a Drive Parry stance. It never says anything about it having to be a successful parry.
Actually, no. I think that punch isn't a s.Fierce, but just a part of the Drive Rush. Green ink on that impact too. So Parry Stance Dash Cancel (PSDC) into Hashogeki.
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OMG, they've made whiff punishing this braindead easy? 🤣
All these years that I've spent working on my spacing to be right outside of specific characters long reaching normals that have a lot of recovery so I can whiff punish it and feel like a god(which I'm terrible at because this is super hard to do). And now we can sit back at a very safe distance and just press two buttons to cause a slow down and then a dash input to punish? 🤣
Well, this is the future. No more whiffing heavies or specials from mid screen now lol.
Looks like parry -> drive rush to me. Maybe an FADC like trick.
This is the most disappointing aspect of this dang game for me. I loved the shit out of crush counters. It's a mechanic that simply just feels great, every time. They really have completely abandoned SFV. Meanwhile they bring back focus attacks and parries lol. Whatever man.
I guess some V-Triggers could come back as install supers.
The gif is playing like 30% slower than the video they pulled it from. Also I think the slowdown is coming from the Drive Rush activation.
It still looks absurdly good, but you're not causing anything close to a V-Trigger Activation slowdown to check and leisurely buffer your next action. It's also going to cost at least 1.25-1.5 bars of Drive Gauge to execute (The Drive Parry is a continuous drain, but I'm assuming there's some minimal cost to activate).
I think the part Daigo is missing in his concern that the Drive System favors defense, is that taking damage drains the gauge. Making your gambles to use the meter for defense even riskier, because once you get to that burnout state you're vulnerable to be stunned.
It's hard to say whether this game will favor offense or defense yet, I can see it going either way. The Drive System appears to follow the same rules as Luke's V-Triggers. Self-replenishing, but can run out very easily if mismanaged.
All that said they need to put Crush Counters in this game to assuage me and Daigo's fears…
I hope the perfect parry screen freeze isn't as obnoxious in the final product. Ditto for a successful Drive Impact.
All you need to understand is that black people are tired of people shitting on our art every time it shows up in media, by saying it "doesn't fit" and they wish was some other genre that is "more appropriate". That's all. What you feel doesn't matter, your preference doesn't matter, what you wish it was doesn't matter, what you think fits doesn't matter.
Just stop fucking doing it. You are shitting on our culture, period. I don't care what you think you're doing. You and whoever you come from can keep it to yourselves and let us have our time in the sun with zero commentary for the next 1000 years, then check back and see if we think the scales have balanced.
What you think you're doing doesn't matter, when the black people receiving it are telling you to shut he fuck up. It's fucking racism, regardless of intention. Blowing the dog whistle is what it is.
Take this as a warning.
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I'm less concerned about the Perfect Parry freeze (Though that really doesn't look like it's slowed for the sake of the trailer with Ryu's mouth flapping) and more concerned about just how fast that Drive Parry consumes gauge. We see an entire clip where Luke eats a jump in, two lows and a mid like it's nothing.
Just madness. Wonder if this means we'll see Chip Kills again.
Thanks for saying it because this shit happens only when a game features a hip hop song
Indeed and for that I'll always thank him.
Thank you.
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