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Stranger Things S4 | OT | Every ending has a beginning (Open spoilers)

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zaxil456

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As some have said, I think Season 4 had some of the series highest highs and lowest lows. Season 1 is still king for me but it's between 3 and 4 for second place, but I think I'd still give it to 3. Season 1 still has the best sense of horror but on the flip side, Season 3 does a really good job at being a more light-hearted, colorful adventure. It felt like a pop music video at times.
 
CrazyDude

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zaxil456 said:
As some have said, I think Season 4 had some of the series highest highs and lowest lows. Season 1 is still king for me but it's between 3 and 4 for second place, but I think I'd still give it to 3. Season 1 still has the best sense of horror but on the flip side, Season 3 does a really good job at being a more light-hearted, colorful adventure. It felt like a pop music video at times.
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Season 3 is the season that was most in your face about being in the 80s.
 
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carlsojo

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I'm still blown away by this fourth season. Like it's so rare for something to be so GOOD and also have a profound effect on popular culture. Like really I know the creators know what they're doing but there's no way they could have foreseen the impact of their work.
 
Buckle

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You know, I haven't really watched Stranger things since S1 but I'm loving seeing all these badass fan remixes of old Kate Bush songs popping up on my Spotify release radar all of a sudden.

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Buckle said:
You know, I haven't really watched Stranger things since S1 but I'm loving seeing all these badass fan remixes of old Kate Bush songs popping up on my Spotify release radar all of a sudden.

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Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (Remix) | Stranger Things Season 4

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entremet

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What a season! Finally caught up. The emotional stakes just brought this season to a stellar one. The Duffers are also masters at tension.
 
Volimar

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Watching through 5th ep now. But boy the ending of episode 4. Wow. Now I get what the Kate Bush hubbub was about.
 
Gaius Cassius

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So, who the hell is gonna look after El now that Brenner and the entire government agency who trained her are now dead? One nice touch I liked about that faction was even the MP's guarding the bunker appeared to be people who had worked in Hawkins lab originally (survivors of the demogorgon attack of season 2 I guess?!) I know that middle aged lady and some agents are still in Hawkins last we saw, but literally everyone that had knowledge of how to train her is gone now.

What happened to the psycho Army Colonel dude anyway? He just gave up after that bit in the desert? I almost see the show having some scary scenes that will be homage to 1980s The Blob where monsters are wiping people out on the town square while the army fails to protect anyone.
 
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Gaius Cassius said:
So, who the hell is gonna look after El now that the Brenner and the entire government agency who trained her are dead? I know that middle aged lady and some agents are still in Hawkins last we saw, but literally everyone that had knowledge of how to train her is gone now.

What happened to the psycho Army Colonel dude anyway? He just gave up after that bit in the desert? I almost see the show having some scary scenes that will be homage to 1980s The Blob where monsters are wiping people out on the town square while the army fails to protect anyone.
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We don't know if Owens is dead, and the colonel probably just hasn't caught up with her yet.
 
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Gaius Cassius said:
So, who the hell is gonna look after El now that the Brenner and the entire government agency who trained her are dead? I know that middle aged lady and some agents are still in Hawkins last we saw, but literally everyone that had knowledge of how to train her is gone now.

What happened to the psycho Army Colonel dude anyway? He just gave up after that bit in the desert? I almost see the show having some scary scenes that will be homage to 1980s The Blob where monsters are wiping people out on the town square while the army fails to protect anyone.
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I'd figure there will be competing military factions again. Remember, the psycho guy was acting covertly. He can't just do that again now that Hawkins has all the attention again.
 
Odesu

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That was way better than S2 or S3 but I would have paid money to get the version of this season with half the runtime and the entire Russia/Hobbs Storyline removed. Was really, really bored at times.
 
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That was way better than S2 or S3 but I would have paid money to get the version of this season with half the runtime and the entire Russia/Hobbs Storyline removed. Was really, really bored at times.
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Oh man, I loved the Russian storyline. It was also a nice break from the craziness in Hawkins.
 
Genesius

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I wish we could just buy seasons of this show somewhere. Maybe Netflix will eventually cave once they lose more subscribers.
 
entremet

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So far, my rankings.

S1>S3>S4>S2

Season 2 was just weird with that aside in the city lol. Like, what was that lol.

But they were all good. The only thing that brought down S4 for me was Finn's storyline. It was meandering.
 

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This was a slog.

Awful pace, very useless stories (c'mon, there were WAY better ways to keep Hopper alive), too much exposition, El -once again- need reassurance from a male figure to let her know she is the goat, even after regaining her powers. Eddie's death, useless. The whole "don't step on the vines" REALLY!?!?!.

I t had its moment, but for me it was the lowest of all the seasons. Like, you could concentrate the whole story in maybe three good episodes.
 
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Conditional-Pancakes So I finished "Runaway Max" I thought it was good!!! There are some intense content warnings considering her homelife with Billy and Neil. But it basically is season 2 from her perspective, along with plenty of other additional scenes. What a great character.
 
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Joseph Quinn says his Eddie Munson role helped him evade airport jail

The Stranger Things actor told Jimmy Fallon he "very nearly didn't make it" into the country for his appearance on The Tonight Show
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"I very nearly didn't make it," Quinn said of his journey to The Tonight Show for his talk show debut. "I was taken into, I guess what you could call it more of a dungeon. And I was asked to wait there for about 20 minutes and then I was summoned to this desk where someone asked me, 'What are you doing in the United States, sir?' I said, 'I'm actually here to meet Jimmy Fallon on The Tonight Show. And he didn't believe me."
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"One of his colleagues looked over at him, looked at me, and said: 'Leave Eddie alone!'" Quinn said. "And then [the colleague] said, 'It's Eddie from Stranger Things,' and he was like, 'You're Eddie Munson?' He asked, 'Do you come back next season?' I was like, 'I don't know,' and he said, 'You better,' and gave me my passport."
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Joseph Quinn Performs Eddie Munson's Stranger Things Monologue Using Different Accents (Extended)

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Paganmoon

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So finally renewed my Netflix sub and got around to watching this and... holy shit this was overly long. Both the episodes and the season felt super drawn out. I'm not talking about "filler" or anything, just felt way too long overall, like they wanted to do too much in one season, and they had no one to tell them to cut out some fat.
 
Musubi

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Was just about to post that Joe/Metallica video. Fucking bad-ass man.
 
Ashes of Dreams

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It's a neat thing but I have to wonder if Joe Quinn even cares much about Metallica at all lol. Eddie is just a character and the actor didn't grow up in the 80s, you know?
 

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nicoga3000 said:
Is there any chance that they explore #8 in Season 5? Because that whole side-story just feels like SUCH a waste. We are rewatching S2 now, and I can't stop wondering what the they were thinking.
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I'm confused by this, didn't Vecna kill them all before he was sent to the downs? Unless these kids are different ones which wouldn't make sense because El escaped when she was very young and she sent vecna pretty much arround the same time…
 
Disco Infernal

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Finally watched the season. Wow. Yes it was bloated here and there, but that was masterful tv making. I haven't seen anything on any streaming service that really comes close. So sad about Eddie. Shoulda killed Argyle instead.

Having Lucas read The Talisman to Max was *chefs kiss*
 
Donepalace

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Catilio said:
This was a slog.

Awful pace, very useless stories (c'mon, there were WAY better ways to keep Hopper alive), too much exposition, El -once again- need reassurance from a male figure to let her know she is the goat, even after regaining her powers. Eddie's death, useless. The whole "don't step on the vines" REALLY!?!?!.

I t had its moment, but for me it was the lowest of all the seasons. Like, you could concentrate the whole story in maybe three good episodes.
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But then On the other end spending time with the characters allowed us to connect with them more imo like 3 episodes dealing with max's trauma and where she's at before the vecna twist in ep4 makes the emotional stakes that much greater during that episode.

I'm glad the show took that approach it would have been so easy to fast track it and bullet point it almost like GOT S8 They done the right thing here imo
 
OneTrueJack

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entremet said:
So far, my rankings.

S1>S3>S4>S2

Season 2 was just weird with that aside in the city lol. Like, what was that lol.

But they were all good. The only thing that brought down S4 for me was Finn's storyline. It was meandering.
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S1>S4 Hawkins plot>S3>S4 Russian plot>S2>S4 California/Nevada plot

Season 4 feels so disconnected that it's impossible for me to think of it as a single piece. It's three different seasons of television playing out simultaneously, with drastic differences in quality.
 
Ashes of Dreams

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OneTrueJack said:
S1>S4 Hawkins plot>S3>S4 Russian plot>S2>S4 California/Nevada plot

Season 4 feels so disconnected that it's impossible for me to think of it as a single piece. It's three different seasons of television playing out simultaneously, with drastic differences in quality.
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I can get behind that ranking. Without splitting up S4 I would still put it after S1 because that Hawkins plot is just SO GOOD. But the season is definitely weighed down by it feeling like they had no idea what to do with half the cast.
 
GameOver

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I really liked that they kept the big cast separated into groups.

All the subplots converging at the end was awesome.
 
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