Noah Schnapp lays out Will Byers' sexuality for the subtext-deficient
"It’s 100% clear that he is gay and he does love Mike,” the Stranger Things star confirmed
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Stranger Things actor Noah Schnapp: “It’s 100% clear that Will is gay and he does love Mike.” (Spoilers)
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Mike has been so shitty/dismissive toward Will for a couple seasons already.
I 100% don't buy that Will would ever crush on Mike. There's nothing there to crush on.
Will just wants the gang to get back together and play D&D like old times.
I really dislike what they've done to Will's character. They've given Dustin his long distance girlfriend - why not give Will a shot at someone who would be receptive to him?
I 100% don't buy that Will would ever crush on Mike. There's nothing there to crush on.
Will just wants the gang to get back together and play D&D like old times.
I really dislike what they've done to Will's character. They've given Dustin his long distance girlfriend - why not give Will a shot at someone who would be receptive to him?
That people could get through Season 3 without realizing is hilarious.
That people could get through Season 4 without realizing is ridiculous.
What did people think the scene where he turns away from Mike crying after encouraging him about his relationship with Eleven was about? Or the part where his brother noticed that and then gave him a speech later on about how he'll love him no matter what. Like... really?
(I say this knowing someone who didn't pick up on it lol)
Side-Note though: kind of defeats the purpose of putting "Spoilers" in the thread title when the thread title itself IS the spoiler. Like, what else are you protecting people from with that tag? Though this was trending anyway so I guess it is what it is.
That people could get through Season 4 without realizing is ridiculous.
What did people think the scene where he turns away from Mike crying after encouraging him about his relationship with Eleven was about? Or the part where his brother noticed that and then gave him a speech later on about how he'll love him no matter what. Like... really?
(I say this knowing someone who didn't pick up on it lol)
Side-Note though: kind of defeats the purpose of putting "Spoilers" in the thread title when the thread title itself IS the spoiler. Like, what else are you protecting people from with that tag? Though this was trending anyway so I guess it is what it is.
Keep in mind that despite the actor's ages only like one or two years have passed at all in the show's timeline. To Will this new distant and dismissive Mike is a newer development in his past six months or so and he's liked him since they were kids. Rewatch the end of Season 2 and you've got Mike's whole character arc revolving around how he was Will's best friend and the story of how they met. It makes a bit more sense that way.
This year has been a revelation to me in what audiences miss. See The Boys etc.
Kudos to the actor for picking a side and trying to not make it ambiguous.
I haven't, so I don't know what this is in reference to, but I believe you. I've been consistently baffled by how little people apparently pay attention since LOST ended a decade ago and people thought the ending of the show was saying they were dead the whole time despite a character literally saying plainly that isn't what happened.
I mean, you like who you like, and Mike is his closest friend, or at least was. It does make sense.
Not that I disagree with you that Mike is mostly a dick lately.
The Boys is hyper critical of right-wing politics and figures, but it wasn't until this recent season that some actually realized that due to them having an extremely racist character that targets black people who gave a racist speech and then started yelling "All Lives Matter".
Robin gave a whole speech on how hard it is to be gay in a small town in the 1980's that I'm pretty sure applies to Will too. I'd imagine having to live in secret limits dating options.
The story isn't that Will is gay.
The story is that he can't be with who he truly loves, because Mike is in love with El and he completely poured his heart out to her in front of Will.
Next season SHOULD be about Will moving on and giving up this crush he has that will never blossom.
The story is that he can't be with who he truly loves, because Mike is in love with El and he completely poured his heart out to her in front of Will.
Next season SHOULD be about Will moving on and giving up this crush he has that will never blossom.
The real question is why have they been stringing the Will character arc along so anemically for two seasons now? I know S1 and S2 were ostensibly focused heavily on him, but they've completely shoved him to the back of the group. The character/actor deserves better and I hope they re-balance things in S5.
It's like they have no ability to think through the subtexts. English education must be in an extremely dire strait.
The only thing that continues to baffle me is how often people are like "How has he not come out yet?" as though Will Byers isn't a gay teenage boy from Smalltown, USA at the height of the AIDS panic in 1986.
Ah yes the "racist white people unironically singing Killing in the Name by Rage Against the Machine" effect. Love to see it.
I'm a fan of the show, but there's too many instances of needless suffering and cruelty towards some of its characters. Including Will and Max.
That's the not the mystery to me, it's Will's bowl haircut. What the upside down is going on there?
Agreed some of it is education, but I think it's more than that and reflects the persons views tbh.
If you're anti-LGBTQ+, you don't want to see it in your media or even imagine it's there.
The weird thing is in season 4 where he encourages Mike that he's the heart of the team, then turns around and tries to hold back his emotions. How does Mike not notice this? It's a tiny-ass van lmao
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And the Homelander fanbase are clearly Trumpists.
I wonder if the writers were inspired by that right wing rally that had a Homelander costume.
Honestly, I don't think that matters. Sometimes you just like who you like and you can't control that even if they have been shitty or dismissive to you.
I guess I failed English class because I completely missed this subtext.
I thought Will was super lonely with his brother pulling away, his mom being emotionally unavailable after losing yet another boyfriend, Mike being in love with El, and then having to move across the country to a new town. Add a very large scoop of being permanently traumatized from being stuck in the upside down and possessed by the mind flayer (while also feeling like he missed out on large chunks of his childhood because of the former) - Will being a train wreck didn't seem surprising to me. He seemed more coded as Ace than anything if I had to guess.
Poor kid needs a new barber though.
I thought Will was super lonely with his brother pulling away, his mom being emotionally unavailable after losing yet another boyfriend, Mike being in love with El, and then having to move across the country to a new town. Add a very large scoop of being permanently traumatized from being stuck in the upside down and possessed by the mind flayer (while also feeling like he missed out on large chunks of his childhood because of the former) - Will being a train wreck didn't seem surprising to me. He seemed more coded as Ace than anything if I had to guess.
Poor kid needs a new barber though.
In equally concealed news Schnapp also confirmed that Will is indeed a male teenager
Little known fact: The title "Stranger Things," a reference to the phrase "stranger things have happened," is in direct reference to Will's bowl cut being more unexplainable than hive monsters from the shadow dimension.
I've only watched each season once so I don't remember this being hinted at in Season 3... or it was too subtle for me.
Season 3 being too subtle for me wouldn't be surprising. There have been many, many times in the past where I am late to realising a character is LGBTQ+. Sometimes to embarrassing degrees.
In Season 4 it's very blatant and I'm surprised some people didn't see it. But again, I've got no room to talk.
Season 3 being too subtle for me wouldn't be surprising. There have been many, many times in the past where I am late to realising a character is LGBTQ+. Sometimes to embarrassing degrees.
In Season 4 it's very blatant and I'm surprised some people didn't see it. But again, I've got no room to talk.
in the first seasons I considered
in season 3 i suspected
in season 4 i knew
I mean, that scene with Will and Jonathan was as blatant as you could get short of Will literally saying, "I am gay and love Mike but he loves El and that makes me sad." The subtext practically hits you in the face with a 2x4.
Yeah I feel like that was as obvious as possible in season 4. Hopefully they give him some scenes with Robin/Steve so he can be honest to someone who'll understand him. I feel like the party members would just be confused (I'm not sure anyone in the cast even knows about Robin except Steve and maybe Nancy?).