Are you saying here that reki having the lie detector was a suspicious claim to you?
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Are you saying here that reki having the lie detector was a suspicious claim to you?
I hope you used it already because this would make you a target
only one besides me constantly on the chopping block
Must of missed you doing that. I don't really buy Reki as scum and I think assuming they are is kind of a stretch. They had a chance to check Exodus instead of Malus and instead didn't and gave us an accurate red check, and if they were really trying to give someone town cred, why would they have the already pretty town read Reki do it? It's just weird as a scum play, and you saying that probably would of made me scum read you more, but you're green checked now! So let's talk about that
A process of elimination, actually.
I didn't want to waste my check in someone who could end up dead the day after.
Out of all the remaining players, My town leans were Loki, Chuggs, Exo and you Stan.
My lean scum list was oreo, Z-Dubs and QK.
My neutral or null reads were B-Dubs, Reki prior to the lie detecting debacle and KetKat.
I probably should have used it on my lean scums, but I figured that they woud still be alive by tomorrow since they are currently the center of attention and I decided to clear more of my neutrals. Out of them, KetKat was the most invisible to me and thus, the most likely to remain alive since mafia would like to focus on other players in order to plant confusion (then again, they could have focused in Ket, so it was a gamble).
So we have a green check on Ketkat which is strange both because I don't know why you check Ketkat out of the players left. I'm also not really sure why you claim that here? Ketkat wasn't exactly in a situation to be killed anytime soon and all that green check did was speed her up in the scum kill order line. Just don't really like this as a move.
I've seen scum green check a scum mate before, but that was in a super rough situation for scum, and this is not that if scum is Ketkat and Neon. Like holy shit that would be a weird move. If scum did play a part in this, it's probably Neon that's the scum here.
That being said, at the moment I'm still town reading him, but he's slid down the rankings a bit.
Eh. What's done is done bud. I just went with what my gut was telling me. Sometimes I am like that.
I need to go back and look at the start of the day. I remember a weird amount of "Oh wow, what happened?!" post about the no kill which is a really weird thing to do when we know there's most likely a BP in play. Going to have to see if any of those come across as role fishing.
These two look the most suspect, but going after Ketkat would clearly not be a good plan lol.
Vote: B-Dubs
Going to park a vote here to give us another wagon. I've said my peace about Dubs. I would go pull some quotes to make a better argument here, but my ISP has been just the biggest fucking assholes and I do not feel like doing that on mobile. Going to try to get to a place that actually has internet before EOD, but no promises.
Going to park a vote here to give us another wagon. I've said my peace about Dubs. I would go pull some quotes to make a better argument here, but my ISP has been just the biggest fucking assholes and I do not feel like doing that on mobile. Going to try to get to a place that actually has internet before EOD, but no promises.
Anyways. Now then:
analizing Loiduck
I think a good place to aalyze is her votes both for and against:
She voted for:
💀 weemadarthur - #672 (Day 1)
exodus - #232
#543 (Day 1)
oreomunsta - #1,106 (Day 2)
oreomunsta - #1,425 (Day 3)
Z-Beat - #1,627 (Day 4)
She was voted by:
NeonBorealis - #167
#387 (Day 1)
Now, seeing that that one vote against her was my joke post from day 1, we can see that no one has actually voted for her (and honestly, who would? She has been an asset to town so far and has been very active).
Her vote on weemad can be explained as a reaction to wee's reasoning against saw and some players decided to vote against them.
Her other votes so far have had a reasoning to it. oreomunsta was heavily adamant in lynching a low post count player, and that player was WSD no less. This could be seen as oreo trying to buss a fellow mafia with low activity in order to gain town cred. All in all, this points at loki's reasoning being sound on oreo.
Her vote on Z-Beat was explained in detail in post 1627 (I won't quote it because it is a wall of text). But I'll quote this summary:
Honestly. I've been reading on her past posts and I can't find a reason on why she wouldn't be helping town at all. That and her votes against her speak volumes (with how protown she has been, it'd be suicide for any scum to attempt to lynch her).
There Reki. I honestly have no energy to go through the thread a 4th time. So I'm going to leave it at that.
Anyways. Regarding today's vote. After thinking it for a while I'm going to go for Z-Beat as I agrree with Lokiduck. However, I'm open to go for oreomunsta since his voting pattern on previous days has been rather odd and I find it curious that he focused on a mafioso on day 1 and didn't vote on both days mafia were eliminated.
Vote: Z-Beat
And with that I'm off. Will hopefully have time to check the thread before EOD. But I have many chores and activities tomorrow, so I can't be sure if I'm going to be here at all.
Good night people.
Also: Toy Story 4 was good
analizing Loiduck
I think a good place to aalyze is her votes both for and against:
She voted for:
💀 weemadarthur - #672 (Day 1)
#543 (Day 1)
oreomunsta - #1,106 (Day 2)
oreomunsta - #1,425 (Day 3)
Z-Beat - #1,627 (Day 4)
She was voted by:
#387 (Day 1)
Now, seeing that that one vote against her was my joke post from day 1, we can see that no one has actually voted for her (and honestly, who would? She has been an asset to town so far and has been very active).
Her vote on weemad can be explained as a reaction to wee's reasoning against saw and some players decided to vote against them.
Her other votes so far have had a reasoning to it. oreomunsta was heavily adamant in lynching a low post count player, and that player was WSD no less. This could be seen as oreo trying to buss a fellow mafia with low activity in order to gain town cred. All in all, this points at loki's reasoning being sound on oreo.
Her vote on Z-Beat was explained in detail in post 1627 (I won't quote it because it is a wall of text). But I'll quote this summary:
Those were logical reasons and I agree to an extent since Z-Beat was really focused on flavor talk early on while tunneling on Chugg, B-Dubs and Exo. Sadly this train fo thought fell out last day because of the malus incident. Was Malus trying to get attention of Z? Dunno, but I find it unlikely since the attention that day was on both malus and Exodus.
Honestly. I've been reading on her past posts and I can't find a reason on why she wouldn't be helping town at all. That and her votes against her speak volumes (with how protown she has been, it'd be suicide for any scum to attempt to lynch her).
There Reki. I honestly have no energy to go through the thread a 4th time. So I'm going to leave it at that.
Anyways. Regarding today's vote. After thinking it for a while I'm going to go for Z-Beat as I agrree with Lokiduck. However, I'm open to go for oreomunsta since his voting pattern on previous days has been rather odd and I find it curious that he focused on a mafioso on day 1 and didn't vote on both days mafia were eliminated.
Vote: Z-Beat
And with that I'm off. Will hopefully have time to check the thread before EOD. But I have many chores and activities tomorrow, so I can't be sure if I'm going to be here at all.
Good night people.
Also: Toy Story 4 was good
I've personally been avoiding voting because I wanted to avoid a turbo until we had discussed everything that could possibly be discussed. The good news as we have definitely learned some things, as we have supposedly learned who got the cop check and Ket has been confirmed as town by neon if he's telling the truth.
Eh, we're pretty far and away from a turbo. I agree we should probably try to avoid it, but there's not really a point of holding a vote when there's not many like there is now.
True, though I'm planning on voting Z-Beat (as out of my suspects he is still the most suspicious), and if I do that puts him at 4 with majority being 6 I believe. :/
I want to hear more about why you would not role check someone you were leaning scum on and went for a null :/ Even if that list included me.
I'm going to put my vote up now, so that I don't miss EoD without a vote down for a third time in a row o_o
I'm okay with a Z-Beat lynch today, since my biggest scum leans are now gone
Vote: Z-Beat
I'm okay with a Z-Beat lynch today, since my biggest scum leans are now gone
Vote: Z-Beat
i cant say i find any of this particularly convincing but okay...for now.
Z-Dubs?
I haven't seen them interacting much, Neon and Ketkat.
If Neon was town:
-Safe.
If Neon was a scum:
-He might want to earn favour by naming a town.
-He's protecting Ketkat.
We had 20 people and Chugg told me it's 3-4 per town.
We might have at most 5.
a thing to keep in mind in that regard is that we have gotten 2 scum pretty early in the game, and now have had 2 days without NKs.
while we are hardly in the end game i have to imaging that things are feeling pretty rough for scum rn, and that could definitely push them to some more audacious plans.
while we are hardly in the end game i have to imaging that things are feeling pretty rough for scum rn, and that could definitely push them to some more audacious plans.
oh that would have helped sure, but im more thinking of looking at things from scums perspective and how the situation must feel for them right now. like emotional wise.
Whatever high that might have come with the lovers death would have worn off long ago, and its only been setback after setback since with both loss of their team members and the multiple NKs failing, where they are standing things will need to go very well for them many days in a row, and given the grip we seem to have on the gamescape right now that probably wouldn't look very likely.
Hence very probable desperation and maybe even a little bit of panic, the kind that would have some crazier ideas seem necessary.
I don't trust that B-Beat
2, I think.
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==== DAY 5 VOTES ====
Day Start
Z-Beat (4 votes)
Queen Kong - #2,001
B-Dubs - #2,051
NeonBorealis - #2,113
oreomunsta - #2,118
Queen Kong (1 votes)
Z-Beat - #2,030
B-Dubs (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #2,112
Not voting: lokiduck, Reki, KetKat, Stantastic, exodus
Post Counts:
Z-Beat: 26 lokiduck: 25 Queen Kong: 18 NeonBorealis: 13 TheChuggernaut: 11 B-Dubs: 11 oreomunsta: 11 Reki: 9 KetKat: 9 Stantastic: 8 exodus: 3
Current Countdown:
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Day Start
Z-Beat (4 votes)
Queen Kong - #2,001
B-Dubs - #2,051
NeonBorealis - #2,113
oreomunsta - #2,118
Queen Kong (1 votes)
Z-Beat - #2,030
B-Dubs (1 votes)
TheChuggernaut - #2,112
Not voting: lokiduck, Reki, KetKat, Stantastic, exodus
Post Counts:
Z-Beat: 26 lokiduck: 25 Queen Kong: 18 NeonBorealis: 13 TheChuggernaut: 11 B-Dubs: 11 oreomunsta: 11 Reki: 9 KetKat: 9 Stantastic: 8 exodus: 3
Current Countdown:
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mostly to Queen Kong or really anyone that remembers, did you at some point reveal your character name?
for some reason i have the memory that you did, like around when you guessed nin was peridot, but looking back i dont see it at all and now im starting to think im crazy.
for some reason i have the memory that you did, like around when you guessed nin was peridot, but looking back i dont see it at all and now im starting to think im crazy.
That literally happened in the last game. Bae faked a cop roll and green checked a scum teammate, only this was super early game.
I didn't publicly reveal it yet but I'm one of the Crystal Gems.
My power fits the character though. : )
All I'm saying is that just because we think a plan is crazy doesn't mean that they won't try it. Hell, I'd say we're less likely to see through the obvious and crazy plans simply because we assume they'd never do that.
i think we all saw it coming, it good that i dont have to live in denial anymore.
To be fair, Bae fakes her role a lot. You're free to be suspicious of the check if you want though, can't really blame you until you see one of us flip
I was also mulling over the game balancing. We can assume exo probably counters malus, and Zeke probably counters the protection role. Sawneeks was a little harder to figure out but I did start to wonder why she'd be able to hand out so many investigation roles. It seems clear that the goal was to see if she'd choose town correctly, but then that just makes them throwaway abilities if given to scum because a lie detector and cop check would be useless to them for the most part, unless there was a neutral who was more of a threat to them than to town. Which brings me to this
On top of that, I can't determine what was supposed to balance out sugilite. The only thing I could think of was the vest, which seems odd to say the least because why would a town need to defend a town against another town.
Looked back and found out reki got the lie detector on N3. So if I've got this right:
N1: lightning rod to exo, and maybe something to someone else (likely a post restriction)
N2: post restriction to exo. I doubt she'd send a 2nd gift considering it'd all just go to exo
N3: lie detector to reki and cop to neon
All that said, I realized one thing: sawneeks trusted exo reki and stan, and scum read nin. What if sawneeks originally sent the lightning rod to nin and it deflected to exo? And Neon, why do you think she gave you the cop check
On top of that, I can't determine what was supposed to balance out sugilite. The only thing I could think of was the vest, which seems odd to say the least because why would a town need to defend a town against another town.
Looked back and found out reki got the lie detector on N3. So if I've got this right:
N1: lightning rod to exo, and maybe something to someone else (likely a post restriction)
N2: post restriction to exo. I doubt she'd send a 2nd gift considering it'd all just go to exo
N3: lie detector to reki and cop to neon
All that said, I realized one thing: sawneeks trusted exo reki and stan, and scum read nin. What if sawneeks originally sent the lightning rod to nin and it deflected to exo? And Neon, why do you think she gave you the cop check
Perhaps scums have a fusion?
My guess was Malachite. I haven't seen them do anything too overt though.
I wonder why she gave it to Neon too, I combed through her posts and no mention of her trusting Neon.
For example:
Why are you thinking she sent out the first gif bomb to someone on night 1? Did someone post a lot of gifs day 2 that could have been the target?
nin probably would have told us if his redirect had been used up the first night when he roleclaimed. I believe when he did he mentioned it hadn't been used yet. Let me go check.
Ughh, I made a mistake of focussing too much on flavour with nin. I will try not to do that again.
(Secretly hope we pop a Yellow diamond next.)
(Secretly hope we pop a Yellow diamond next.)
Because N1 seems like a terrible time to send out investigation and protection roles unless you plan to die.
Also, why would Sawneeks target eco with the lightning rod if she trusted exo? That's taking a huge risk relying on the protection role to save exo. So unless exo got both the vest and the lightning rod, it seems unlikely
Lol I forgot his misspelled my name as loliduk.
Anyways looking back at his posts, he never out right said his redirect hadn't been used, but from the way he phrased it, it sounded like it hadn't.
Anyways looking back at his posts, he never out right said his redirect hadn't been used, but from the way he phrased it, it sounded like it hadn't.
His role doesn't explicitly state that he'd be notified if it was
That seems reasonable. I could see her sending the gif bomb to someone she didn't trust, the question is, which players posted a lot of gifs that day then?
He said when he roleclaimed that he'd be notified by a mod. It may not say it in the role PM but that's what he said, so it's what I'm basing it off of.
I mean he could have asked Monkey about it after receiving his PM for better clarification on how he'd find out.
I'll go back and check.
And fair enough. I didn't see that part or I forgot